HomeMy WebLinkAbout1997 05-07 HHSCMINUTES OF THE
HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES COMMISSION MEETING
Administration Building Conference Room
1001 N. Idaho Road, Apache Junction, AZ
May 7,1997 6:30 p.m.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT:
CARMEN HUERTA, CHAIRPERSON
ED BARKER
JENNIE BENNETT, VICE CHAIRPERSON
CAROL CRANMER
1.Call to Order/Attendance.
STAFF PRESENT:
KATHLEEN CONNELLY, CITY CLERK
OTHERS PRESENT
COUNCILMEMBER URICH,COUNCIL
LIAISON
COUNCILMEMBER SURRA,COUNCIL
LIAISON
Chairperson Huerta called the meeting to order at 6:32 p.m.City Clerk Kathy
Connelly called the roll and advised there was a quorum present.
2.Approval of minutes for April 16, 1997.
Commissioner Barker moved to approve the minutes of April 16, 1997.Commissioner
Cranmer seconded the motion.The vote was unanimous.
3.Staff status report on applications for human services funding.
None.
4.Presentations by applicants for human services funding for Fiscal Year 1997-
98.
The first applicant was the Food Bank represented by John Snethen.He gave them
a schedule of the monthly food box distribution.He described what was contained
in the food boxes.The amount of food they receive is determined by the amount of
people in the family.Vice Chairperson Bennett asked him about the $336 spent on
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packaging.Mr. Snethen stated the brown bags they put the food in cost $17 for 500
bags.Vice Chairperson Bennett asked what the brown bags were for.Mr. Snethen
told her those were the grocery bags, and the other plastic bags bought were for
packaging the vegetables.They also buy coffee in 3 lb. cans and break it down into
1 lb.packages during the winter.He stated they only buy food with the money
received from the city.They do not have a problem distinguishing Apache Junction
residents from non-residents.He asked City Clerk Kathy Connelly about the new form
they are required to fill out, stating the size of the paper was larger than in the past.
City Clerk Kathy Connelly stated he could do what he had done before,which is
change it to where it fits in his computer - the columns do not have to be the same
size.
City Clerk Kathy Connelly stated she had made one change on the form from last
year.The column that is headed "Total Cost of Service" was "Number of People
Served" last year.This way they have to do their own calculations and all she has
to do is the addition.
Vice Chairperson Bennett stated she did not feel the people needed coffee if they are
too poor for groceries.Councilmember Surra stated they do need a warm drink in the
winter.It was mentioned they buy it in greater quantities to buy it cheaper, and it is
less expensive than hot chocolate and other warm drinks.Councilmember Surra
stated when you look at how much they hand out the other charges for non-food
items is not a substantial amount.There was some discussion on whether used
brown bags could be donated to the Food Bank to help cut their costs.
Commissioner Barker asked what the documentation was that had been received from
the Boys & Girls Club.City Clerk Kathy Connelly stated the document is what they
have been provided as a 501C as a start-up organization.She added they have to
have so many operational years before they fit into another category.She recently
saw the same documents for another association.Commissioner Barker asked if it
meets the criteria of the city ordinance.City Clerk Kathy Connelly stated she believes
it does, and she will show it to the attorney.She added they will not get an official
501C until they have been an organization for a number of years.Commissioner
Barker asked if the Internal Revenue Service had changed that.City Clerk Kathy
Connelly stated it was not that way in the past, but she has seen several of these
recently.Councilmember Surra asked if they were temporary classifications.It was
generally noted that they have been given exempt status.Commissioner Barker
stated their foundation status is under 509A.There was general discussion about the
status, how it was received and what the designation actually means.Commissioner
Barker requested a legal opinion on the status of the Boys & Girls Club.City Clerk
Kathy Connelly stated she would try to have that for the next meeting.There was
general discussion on whether they could apply for funds with a designation of 509C
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as the ordinance states 501C only.
The Boys & Girls Club of Apache Junction was represented by Laura Lytle and Connie
Lane.Commissioner Barker asked if they were operating on their own.They
responded they were.Commissioner Barker asked about the program at Superstition
Mountain Elementary School.Ms Lytle stated the school is assisting them with the
program by letting them use the building an hour after school lets out, which creates
a problem as the children cannot hang around the school for an hour.She hopes to
have the programs at their own facility next year and transportation is being worked
out.They will have programs in place this summer as they will have full use of the
school facility.The grants they are requesting will be used for staff.Their programs
are geared for the older children, with some programs for the elementary children.
They also tutor the children.They need two staff members for the programs, one for
normal staff work and one for the development work.Their goal is 20-30 children,
any more they would need more staff.They generally need one staff person for
approximately every 10 children.They are trying to get programs for the children on
drugs, alcohol and teen pregnancy, with funding coming from the East Valley Boys
& Girls Club.They will not know the attendance factor until the programs get started.
The first program at SMES was started with under 10 children, but they are trying to
reach more children.They are trying to offer a summer day camp, and have received
numerous phone calls from parents interested in this.They have received an offer
from Don Donnelly to teach the children about tack and horsebackriding.Their youth
director is very enthusiastic and has approached other clubs about shared activities
and field days.Chairperson Huerta asked if they would have children living in the East
Mesa area.They stated they would, they do not have boundaries.To date, the
attendance in their programs and their members are all within the city limits.
Commissioner Cranmer asked how many children they are serving at this time.Ms.
Lytle stated in mid -December of 1996 they had served 294 children, and she believes
they all live in the city limits.Commissioner Cranmer asked how they market the
club.Ms Lane stated they advertise in the school through flyers, advertise in the
paper and have a Boys & Girls Club Week to familiarize themselves with the parents.
They held an open house during Boys & Girls Club Week and 75 new members signed
up.If someone cannot afford to sign up,however, they do not turn them away.
They either sponsor them or have them do something around the club to make up for
the membership fee.The annual cost is $10.Chairperson Huerta asked what age
groups were represented in those that signed up at the open house.Ms Lytle stated
it was a balanced group in ages.Vice Chairperson Bennett asked where the facility
was.Ms Lane stated it was at 1215 S. Winchester Rd.Vice Chairperson Bennett
asked if parking was available, or do people have to drop their children off.Ms Lane
stated there is parking available, they have basketball courts and they are trying to get
a volleyball court.She added they are sharing the building with the alternative school
until the summer, when the school breaks for summer vacation.They will then have
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the building to themselves over the summer.Commissioner Barker asked how they
target the group of students that are going to be in the program.They stated it was
open to anyone who becomes a member.Commissioner Barker asked if they have a
way of determining what children need help with their homework.Ms Lane stated
they do not have any way of determining that at this time.Commissioner Barker
stated it sounded like they were trying to draw at risk children.Ms Lytle stated it
seems like it ends up being problem children as the need is there.Commissioner
Barker asked if that was because the need was there and they are offering it.Ms
Lytle stated she believed it is because every child wants to belong and have someone
to care about them.Chairperson Huerta asked if they had any restrictions or rules.
Ms Lytle stated it is well supervised and they have rules.The children even made
their own rules of no smoking, no drinking, no offensive language and no jumping on
the furniture.Councilmember Surra asked if they are free to go in and out, or must
they stay the entire time.Ms Lytle believes that once they leave they cannot come
back.Councilmember Surra asked if they could hang around the building after
leaving.They stated they cannot do much as the area across the street is not their
property, but on Friday nights the AJ mounted rangers patrol the area for security,
and the children respect them.Vice Chairperson Bennett asked about the other
programs,such as the history program.Ms Lytle stated the youth development
director attends training at the East Valley club, brings their recommendations and
presents it to the AJ board.Ms Lane stated they also have an environmental program
that goes along with it.Commissioner Barker asked how they anticipate financing the
remainder of their budget.Ms Lane stated they have applied for United Way funds
and they are checking with the governer's office.Commissioner Barker asked if they
were aware that if they get no funding from the city, then the governor's office will
not give them any funding.Ms Lane stated she was aware of that.They would get
the funds as they are still affiliated with the Abuse Prevention Council and have
assumed their liabilities.Commissioner Barker asked if they would have a problem if
the commission gave them the funding for the director's salary so they could secure
matching funds from the governor's office.Ms Lane stated that would be no
problem.Commissioner Barker asked if the $16,150 was for the branch director,
running the center and the program.Ms Lane stated that was correct.They are
hoping to have the funds to hire seasonal help for the summer.Ms Lytle stated the
funding is for additional staffing along with the director.Councilmember Surra asked
if they applied simultaneously for the 501C and the 509A.Ms Lane stated Mrs.
Hagner filed for that but she will check into it for them.Chairperson Huerta stated
it was something they needed to know.Councilmember Surra stated it says they do
not have a 501C until a final determination is made.Ms Lytle stated she believes
those are old papers.City Clerk Kathy Connelly stated those are the same papers
they had sent to her.Ms Lane stated she had been told they have a 501C3.
Councilmember Surra stated they need to have something that clearly states their
status.The current paper states 509A until December 31,1999.Ms Lytle stated
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they would pursue this.Ms Lane stated the woman from the Internal Revenue
Service stated they had a 501C3 and that they were current.Councilmember Surra
stated they needed a document stating that.
After the Boys & Girls Club representatives left, Councilmember Surra remarked the
more she reads the document, the more uncertain she is that 501C status has been
granted.City Clerk Kathy Connelly stated she is not familiar with the Internal
Revenue Service procedures.There was general discussion on what the 501C is and
allows.
The next applicant was Central Arizona Human Resources Agency, represented by
Mary Lou Rosales.Chairperson Huerta asked if there was anything new from last
year.Ms Rosales stated the extra money given to them last year for appliances was
a blessing.She added to date they have done one cooler replacement for $502 and
eight cooler tune-ups, which averaged $202 per unit.They replace pad, filter, and do
electrical work during those tune-ups.When they have to work on gas lines and
water lines, those replacement/repairs averaged $499 per unit, with the maximum
being $600.In addition, they replaced a refrigerator for one family.They are working
on 8 more.The total expenditures to date were $4,111.They are hoping to spend
the $12,000, with bids out for other work that needs to be done.The commission
told her they had received a number of complimentary letters on their work.
Councilmember Surra asked who does the work for CAHRA.Ms Rosales stated her
staff does now, but she is checking with some contractors and they are getting too
much work to do.City Clerk Kathy Connelly stated the city business license list could
be faxed to her to assist her in finding contractors within the city limits.Ms Rosales
stated the average repair per household was $443.Councilmember Surra asked if it
was worthwhile to do the repairs on the appliances, especially if they had to return
to repair the same unit again later, or if it would be cheaper to replace the unit.Ms
Rosales stated there are probably some they should replace instead of repair.The
commission suggested follow-up calls to see if the units were working properly, and
to keep a history on the repaired units to see if they are frequently needing repairs and
should be replaced instead.Ms Rosales stated towards the end of the year if they
have to decide between multiple homes needing the repair work, they generally repair
the homes for the elderly instead of the homes of families.Chairperson Huerta asked
if they replaced heaters.Ms Rosales believes they have repaired them, but they have
not replaced them.She stated they will be getting some funds from Arizona Public
Service this year,but they are not in Apache Junction.She added they will be
working with low-income families to try to educate them on utilities.Councilmember
Surra stated the money from the city can be used to fund education for the
consumers.City Clerk Kathy Connelly stated it could be designated for education.
Ms Rosales stated they received a $100,000 grant from the Housing Trust Fund; they
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are giving $3,000 grants to 16 families with young children, the remainder will be for
the elderly with which they can do some of the repair/replacment on a wider basis.
They are trying to take care of all of their housing repair needs.They will make sure
each community in Pinal County receives their fair allocation.Councilmember Surra
asked if they had done any electrical repairs, and Ms Rosales stated they have in the
past but she is not sure how much, if any, they did in the last year.They themselves
do not do the electrical work, they have someone come in and do it.
The final applicant for this evening was the Mesa Senior Centers,represented by
Beverly Kerr, the director of the Apache Junction Senior Center, and Dan Taylor, the
executive director of the Mesa Senior Centers.Chairperson Huerta asked them to
proceed with their presentation.Mr.Taylor briefed the commission on the Mesa
Senior Centers, and stated they now have the Apache Junction Senior Center open
5 days a week and plan to continue that schedule.Ms Kerr stated she sends a
monthly report to City Clerk Kathy Connelly so the city is updated on what is going
on at the senior center.She stated she started working at the Apache Junction
Senior Center in August and they have grown tremendously.It has gone from a quiet
place to a very social, warm place for the people to meet.Each week they have
health education programs, a monthly wellness clinic, and speakers are frequently
brought in.She stated she was already at 60-65 people before the winter visitors
arrived and now has to work from a waiting list.As of December, there are 124
active city residents involved in the program and 24 active county residents.She
added she had 5 new members today, 6 more signing up tomorrow, and she will have
94 people at dinner on Friday.Commissioner Barker asked why they needed $2,000
more than they had requested last year.Mr. Taylor stated it was because they are
now open 5 days a week, which increased their costs.Commissioner Barker asked
if the funds last year were for 4 days a week.Mr. Taylor stated that was correct.
Commissioner Barker asked when they went to 5 days a week.Mr. Taylor stated
they began 5 days a week in November when the site council agreed to give them
$1,000 to pay the additional cost.Vice Chairperson Bennett stated she used to
volunteer to serve meals there and she is glad to hear that more people are taking
part.Ms Kerr talked about how the people are placed on the reservation list and the
waiting lists.She stated she now has 49 active volunteers who serve the meals
every night; no one has to wait in line to get their meal.Commissioner Barker asked
if she estimated a year round participation average of 80.Ms Kerr stated it will
probably dip to around 50-55 in the summer, with the possibility of even less in July
and August when people go on vacation.Mr. Taylor stated they started keeping
records to compare to the previous year's statistics, and as of March they had already
served more meals than they had in the previous year.Chairperson Huerta asked if
the meals were brought from the Mesa site.Mr. Taylor stated their kitchen is in Mesa
and they bring the meals in from there.Commissioner Barker asked if that was more
cost effective.Mr. Taylor stated he believes it is as the meal has to meet certain
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requirements; they have a nutrutionist check the meals.Commissioner Barker stated
he meant is it cheaper than preparing the meals out here.Mr. Taylor stated the only
way they could prepare the meals here is to prepare them at another location.
Commissioner Barker stated that kitchen has prepared full meals.Mr. Taylor stated
they would have to add quite a bit to prepare the meals from a health standpoint.
They are building a new center in Mesa which will have a new kitchen.When built,
the meals will come from there;it will be located at Red Mountain Park.
Councilmember Surra asked them if they were thinking of changing their name as they
are in others areas besides Mesa now.Mr. Taylor stated the board will be meeting
in May and throughout the summer to discuss issues,and one of them will be a
possible name change.They know they need to diversify so that they can attain
other funding sources.Vice Chairperson Bennett stated she would like to see the
name changed.Vice Chairperson Bennett added when they had talked earlier about
serving all ages, she believed they meant those citizens over 50 years of age.Mr.
Taylor stated they actually have all age groups in there at times.Ms Kerr then briefed
the commission on the volunteer programs with the Reserve Officers Training Corps
(ROTC) and programs that are bringing the elementary school children in to interact
with the senior citizens.
There was general discussion on how the senior center had changed.Vice
Chairperson Bennett remarked how in the past the residents would complain that the
senior center allowed the winter visitors to take their place when they came into
town, so she is glad to hear the residents are not losing their places to the winter
visitors anymore.Councilmember Surra is glad to hear that the people going there are
the people living in the city, and they are not just going to sustain themselves with
food.
There will be three more applicants to interview next week.
5.Discussion on applications for human services funding; possible formulation of
recommendations to City Council.
Commissioner Cranmer wanted to discuss the Boys & Girls Club.At the last meeting
it was believed they wanted the money for salaries, and now it has been learned that
they have started some programs and she believes they should be given a chance.
Councilmember Surra stated with them having to abandon the school site, it will limit
the number of children that can be involved.She reminded them the money is for
next year, not this year.City Clerk Kathy Connelly stated the funding starts when the
contract is approved, which is early August.Councilmember Surra stated it will take
effect near the beginning of the school year and the transportation problems should
be worked out.She added the quarterly report will help them develop a track record,
whereas in the past they have had to go with the past record of the youth center
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which has always given the city problems.Commissioner Barker stated he had some
concerns about the amount of children being involved; he thinks $47,000 is too great
an amount to spend on only 10 kids.He added he has stopped by the teen center
frequently of late and only 8-9 kids are there, and the impression he got was it is the
same kids every day.That does amount to 200 kids per month, but it is the same 8-9
kids every day, and that bothers him.He stated there are 400 kids involved in little
league but they do not ask for any funding.He is concerned about the taxpayers'
money being spent on 10 kids instead of on a greater number being served.
Councilmember Surra stated they have more administrative costs as all the other
programs to help youth use volunteers.Commissioner Barker stated when you looked
at the percentage of residents in Mesa and the number of participants in the Mesa
Boys & Girls Club, then compared those figures to Apache Junction, like figures would
put the participation in Apache Junction at 20 kids.General discussion ensued with
it being determined most of the children attending were coming from the Palm Springs
area where they could walk or ride their bikes to the location.Transportation is a
problem.Commissioner Barker stated he does not think the kids are going to hang
around the club.Commissioner Cranmer stated they might get supervised.
Commissioner Barker stated unless they have a program that will pull them in, the kids
will not attend.There was general agreement that it is the sports activities that will
pull the children in, along with field trips.Councilmember Surra stated they will have
to follow the national guidelines for the club and will not be able to do field trips or
other things that would be helpful for the community.City Clerk Kathy Connelly
stated she would check to make sure what their standing is with the Internal Revenue
Service.Chairperson Huerta stated she believed she had already made up her mind
about that.
Councilmember Surra reminded everyone that the programs previously supported by
the city are probably going to see some cutbacks in their other funding as welfare is
seeing.These programs already have proven track records and the city needs them.
Commissioner Barker asked if this would be on the council agenda by the end of the
month.City Clerk Kathy Connelly stated the last meeting would make it too late for
it to be added to the last meeting in May.Councilmember Surra stated it could be
added to the May 20 agenda as an open item where they could present their request
and it could be voted on.Vice Chairperson Bennett would give the presentation and
Commissioner Barker stated he would help her.City Clerk Kathy Connelly stated the
information would get to the councilmembers late as it would not be ready when the
packets were put together.
The commission discussed the funding recommendations estimated at the last
meeting and based upon past records with final determinations to be made after the
interview.The Food Bank had been given $12,000 and the Boys & Girls Club had
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been given $4,000.Chairperson Huerta stated she now feels the Boys & Girls Club
should not be given anything until they have a proven track record, hopefully next
year. Commissioner Barker agreed with her.Councilmember Surra added their priority
seems to be to build the building, as they submitted an application for a CDBG grant
of $425,000 to build the building.Vice Chairperson Bennett stated if they had a
building they can look at them towards funding.Councilmember Surra stated if they
can get that building built, they do not need human services funding.Chairperson
Huerta continued on,advising they had talked about giving CAHRA $12,000.
Commissioner Barker stated they still had $8,000 left from last year's funding.
Chairperson Huerta stated this is for next year.City Clerk Kathy Connelly stated
whatever they have not used by the end of June they will not be paid for.
Commissioner Barker stated they only have two months to spend the $8,000.
Councilmember Surra stated we are entering the summer and this is the season when
they will spend the money quickly.Commissioner Cranmer stated they may feel more
comfortable replacing some of the units instead of repairing them.Commissioner
Barker suggested only giving them the difference between $12,000 and what they
have left at July 1 to bring it to a total of $12,000.Councilmember Surra stated that
any money they do not spend by July 1 is returned to the city.Commissioner Barker
stated he wondered what the city council might think of them if they recommended
$12,000 and CAHRA gives back $6,000 from the year before.Chairperson Huerta
stated they have always used the full amount of $10,000 given to them in previous
years.Commissioner Barker stated they had previously only been getting $5,000 -
$6,000 before,and last year they had asked for $8,400,but they were given
$12,000.Chairperson Huerta stated they were given other money for another agency
that was unqualified.City Clerk Kathy Connelly stated this is the first year they have
proposed the supplemental program.Commissioner Barker asked to continue and
stated he may argue the point later.Chairperson Huerta stated they recommended
$17,000 for the senior center and $4,000 for the Salvation Army.Commissioner
Barker stated he has a problem with the Salvation Army receiving $4,000.City Clerk
Kathy Connelly stated these are preliminary figures.Commissioner Barker stated to
talk more about it next week.Commissioner Cranmer stated that would be
conditional and if they performed okay they would receive the total funds of $4,000.
Chairperson Huerta stated they had recommended $5,000 for St.George's.
Commissioner Barker asked what they are using their money for.Chairperson Huerta
stated it would be for financial assistance.Commissioner Barker suggested it was
something they had been funding the Salvation Army for in the past, and if so he may
argue to give them more funding.City Clerk Kathy Connelly stated she was
concerned that they would follow the reporting procedures. She added she had talked
to Susan today and she appears to be more comfortable with the city's requirements.
Chairperson Huerta stated $20,000 had been recommended for the mental health
center, which brings the total to $74,000.She stated after the three interviews next
week this could be discussed again and see what should be done with the $4,000 for
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the Boys & Girls Club.Commissioner Barker stated he felt they were real close, as
these figures were within the ballpark of what he had in mind.
6.Requests for future agenda items.
Councilmember Surra stated they needed to recommend any other applicants and they
need to report to the city who will stay on the board.City Clerk Kathy Connelly
stated Carmen has offered to stay on the commission and the one applicant for the
vacant position is on the next city council meeting agenda to be interviewed.
Commissioner Cranmer stated Gary Collins is retiring and he would be good to get on
the commission next year.
7.Reminder of next scheduled meeting:May 14,1997,6:30 p.m.,Police
Department Emergency Operations Center.
Commissioner Barker stated they should come prepared to finalize their
recommendations to council. City Clerk Kathy Connelly reminded the commission that
Commissioner Cranmer should not participate in the Superstition Mountain Mental
Health interview as her daughter works for that agency, per the city attorney.
8.Adjournment.
Commissioner Cranmer moved for adjournment.Vice Chairperson Bennett seconded
the motion.The vote was unanimous.The meeting was adjourned at 9:33 p.m.
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Carmen Huerta
Chairperson
Kathleen Connelly
City Clerk
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