HomeMy WebLinkAbout2014-12-16 City Council Regular MinutesCITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING
DECEMBER 16, 2014
The regular meeting of the City Council of the City of
Apache Junction, Arizona, was held on December 16, 2014, at the
Apache Junction City Council Chambers pursuant to the notice
required by law.
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Insalaco called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
INVOCATION
Councilmember Wilson gave the Invocation.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Councilmember Waldron led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
Councilmembers Present:Mayor Insalaco
Vice Mayor Barker (telephonically
around 7:10)
Councilmember Evans
Councilmember Rizzi
Councilmember Serdy
Councilmember Waldron
Councilmember Wilson
Staff Present:City Manager George Hoffman
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
City Attorney Joel Stern
Development Services Director Larry
Kirch
Assistant to the City Manager Matt
Busby
Others Present:Captain Troy Mullender
Revenue Resource Manager Roger Hacker
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Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
ACCEPTANCE OF CONSENT AGENDA
)Councilmember Evans MOVED
THAT THE CONSENT AGENDA BE ACCEPTED AS PRESENTED; AND
THAT RESOLUTION NO. 14-46, A RESOLUTION OF THE MAYOR AND CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF APACHE JUNCTION, ARIZONA, AUTHORIZING THE
CITY OF APACHE JUNCTION TO ENTER INTO AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL
AGREEMENT WITH THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE MODIFYING ITS
AUDITING AUTHORITY, BE APPROVED, AND
THAT RESOLUTION NO. 14-45, A RESOLUTION OF THE MAYOR AND CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF APACHE JUNCTION, ARIZONA, AUTHORIZING THE
CITY OF APACHE JUNCTION TO ENTER INTO AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL
AGREEMENT WITH THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE ALLOWING THE
CITY TO CONTINUE MUNICIPAL TRANSACTION PRIVILEGE TAX LICENSING
SERVICES, BE APPROVED.
Councilmember Rizzi SECONDED
THE MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
AWARDS, PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS
Revenue Resource Manager Roger Hacker commented Elks Lodge #2349
has donated $2,000 to the police department for the purchase of
uniforms for the honor guard.
Captain Troy Mullender thanked the Elks Lodge for their
continued support throughout the years.This amount puts them
close to being able to purchase the uniforms.
Revenue Resource Manager Roger Hacker introduced Robert Cooper
of the Elks Lodge who presented a check to Captain Mullender.
ANNOUNCEMENT OF CURRENT EVENTS
Councilmember Serdy commented parks and recreation did an
awesome job with the Focal Point again this year.The added
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lights show the Christmas lights and the lit up horse and rider
even better and he thinks it is the best it has ever looked.
Councilmember Serdy announced the big news in the area is the
land swap and the resolution passed in the senate to help with
Resolution Copper.That is one step closer to bringing a lot of
jobs here.
Councilmember Evans announced there is a new youth soccer group
for boys and girls ages 8-18.The U-12 boys participated in the
walk-a-thon and won $800 which will go a long way for a new
soccer club.There is a Superstition Mountain Soccer Club
website now.
Councilmember Evans commented she would like to tell everyone
happy holidays, but it is also the most depressed, stressed out,
lonely time of year for many, many people.She encouraged
everyone to call someone and say hello or buy someone a happy
meal.She wished everyone a happy holiday.
Mayor Insalaco announced he was at Talking Stick Resort on
Monday for a retirement party for outgoing president Diane Enos,
the president of the Salt River Indian Tribe.She has been
fantastic.She has done a marvelous job but is going back to
being a trial lawyer.She will probably run again in four
years.This Saturday he will be there for Delbert Rey, the new
president.
Councilmember Evans commented on a couple more of the Santa
photos at the Paws and Claws.They have done a lot of adoptions
over the last few months.They will accept monetary, food or
equipment donations.
CITY MANAGER'S REPORT
City Manager George Hoffman commented Assistant City Manager
Bryant Powell is at an event with his daughter this evening.
Matt is telephone patching in the vice mayor at this time.His
report will be turned over to two speakers tonight.
Assistant to the City Manager Matt Busby made the telephonic
patch with Vice Mayor Barker.
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Councilmember Waldron introduced Lisa Rigler and Roger Pollard
with Operation Welcome Home for a presentation on the Arizona
Wall project.The mission of Operation Welcome Home is to honor
our veterans and families by sponsoring activities to express
our support, pride and patriotism.
Ms. Lisa Rigler stated they are excited about the project.They
put on ceremonies for returning veterans and their families and
look forward to bringing that to Apache Junction in the future.
Under the Operation Welcome Home nonprofit, they are a partner
with the 50th Anniversary of the Vietnam War Commemorative
Partnership, which has some criteria.They have decided to
bring a permanent tribute wall to Arizona.They are doing
presentations to tell people about the project.It will be
located in Gilbert.
Mr. Roger Pollard stated welcome home to all Vietnam vets.He
was a district intelligence officer in Vietnam.He described
his experiences there.He commented on the history of the wall
and how it came about.The Arizona wall will be 80% of the
original wall made out of anodized aluminum alloy in black.The
agreement calls for another wall to be within 100 miles so there
will be one in Tucson.This is for people who cannot get to
Washington, D.C. to come and see the original.
Ms. Lisa Rigler stated the Town of Gilbert has dedicated about a
7.7 acre parcel across from the town hall.The 911 memorial is
across the street and a police and fire memorial in front of the
police and fire safety building.The street has been changed
from Civic Drive to American Heroes Way so it is fitting to be
there.She gave a presentation on its design.
Mr. Roger Pollard stated they will be promoting inspiration,
healing and education.He read a paragraph about each one.
Ms. Lisa Rigler stated they have been going into the schools to
teach the fourth and fifth graders about patriotism.She
commented on the different partnerships they have forming.She
commented on the different supporters and the community support
they have, and requested other wallunteers.
Mr. Roger Pollard stated his is proud to be a part of this
project.He described his training and different historical
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events that occurred in 1968.He knows this project is the
right thing to do.
Mr. Chris Coyle, Republic Services, gave a status update on the
Apache Junction landfill, what has gone on this last year and
what they are looking towards in the future.This year they had
self -construction at the landfill, excavating and filling it
with a liner.They will receive about 300,000 tons this year, a
little above average.Their next self -construction will be in
2016, their final one.It will have full environmental
compliance.He described how the liner is constructed and how
it works.They are expecting about 210,000 tons next year but
special waste is unknown.As the state is now doing dynamic
compaction on the highway dig sites, they are no longer getting
waste from them.The projected closure of the landfill is 2025.
He briefed them on how that is calculated.They had a safe year
with no accidents or injuries this year.The free dump weeks
have been a success this year.He thanked the police department
for their assistance during those times.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
APPLICATION FOR A SPECIAL EVENT
LIQUOR LICENSE FOR THE USUAL
SUSPECTS LAW ENFORCEMENT MOTORCYCLE
CLUB ARIZONA CHAPTER FOR JANUARY
10, 2015
)City Clerk Kathleen
Connelly briefed the council on the item.
Mayor Insalaco requested the
applicant address the council.
Mr. Josh Springer, 578 S.
Starr Road, addressed the council.He is a member of the
nonprofit organization and advised he had their treasurer and
vice president with him.They hold fundraisers to solicit
donations that are given to families of police officers that
have been severely injured or passed away in the line of duty.
This year they have given out several thousand dollars.They
have given out money for four officers this year, the two in
Chandler, Detective Hobbs and the Navajo Indian Reservation
officer that recently passed away.This will be another
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fundraising event they will have.They do not want to give this
money away at all, but it is something they feel they should do.
Councilmember Waldron
commented the last time there was an event held out there we got
several calls from citizens complaining about the noise.He
would ask that if a citizen does come up that someone take the
time to listen to them because that did not happen last time.
They were basically told to leave.There are people that live
back in that area.It was on a Sunday and he got calls on
Sunday about it.He would ask they at least address those with
those people should they show up.
Mr. Josh Springer stated
absolutely.That should not be an issue.This event will be
held on a Saturday and the music should be over by 7 p.m.They
will be tearing things down after that.
Councilmember Waldron
commented it is just in case somebody does come up they should
take the time to listen to them and their concerns.
Mr. Josh Springer stated it
should not be an issue at all.
Mayor Insalaco opened the
public hearing on the item.
Mr. Mehmood Mohiuddin, 2341
N. Apache Trail, addressed the council.Mr. Waldron made a
comment about a police officer coming and then comments about
having noise.A gentleman complained that lived about one mile
behind him who said it sounded like somebody beating their
Indian drums.He talked to the person controlling the music and
told him to turn the bass down.The captain from the police
department stated at the last meeting that one person has
complained about Fillies, the Skies and the Hitching Post.He
said he asked the captain what they would need to do to fix the
problem.He said the police captain told him there is nothing
he can do about it as there is one person complaining about
every place in this area.There was a concern, he discussed it,
and they fixed it.They did not turn the person away.
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Councilmember Waldron
commented the reason he brought that up is the call he got is
not from a person who complains about all the other ones.It
was somebody else that called.There were several people that
called.They are not involved in those other complaints.He is
just asking that he address it with them.
Mr. Mehmood Mohiuddin stated
absolutely.
Councilmember Waldron
commented they felt that it was not addressed at the time.They
had whatever going on at their houses.The only thing he is
asking is that when they show up he please address it with them
and try to mitigate the problem.
Mr. Mehmood Mohiuddin stated
absolutely.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated for purposes of clarification, there was one complaint
that went to the police department but there were other
complaints that went to the council.
Councilmember Wilson
commented he also got complaints and telephone calls.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated they were not the same people.
Mayor Insalaco closed the
public hearing with no one else wishing to speak and reopened
the item to council discussion.There being no further
discussion, he called for a motion.
Councilmember Evans MOVED
THAT THE APPLICATION FOR A SPECIAL EVENT LIQUOR LICENSE FOR THE
USUAL SUSPECTS LAW ENFORCEMENT MOTORCYCLE CLUB ARIZONA CHAPTER
FOR JANUARY 10, 2015, SUBMITTED BY JOSH SPRINGER, BE RECOMMENDED
FOR APPROVAL TO THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF LIQUOR LICENSES AND
CONTROL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:(1) THE EVENT WILL BE
HELD ON A LOT ADJACENT TO THE HITCHING POST, NOT ON THE HITCHING
POST PROPERTY AS THE APPLICATION SUGGESTS.OWNERS HAVE NOT
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COMBINED THE PARCELS AND THE HITCHING POST HAS NOT PERMANENTLY
EXTENDED ITS PREMISES.(2) PARKING FOR THE EVENT WILL INCLUDE
THE EXISTING PARKING AREA JUST SOUTH OF, AND NORMALLY USED BY,
THE HITCHING POST AND DASH IN, AS WELL AS AN ADDITIONAL FENCED-
OFF AREA ON PART OF THE FORMER BOAT STORAGE BUSINESS PROPERTY
(WHERE THE CONCERT WILL ALSO BE HELD).THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED,
HOWEVER, DOES NOT SHOW HOW 300 PARKING SPACES (AS THE
APPLICATION SUGGESTS) FOR A PEAK ATTENDANCE OF 500 PEOPLE WILL
BE ACCOMMODATED.FOR FUTURE EVENTS, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE A
PROFESSIONALLY DRAWN, SCALED SITE PLAN, SHOWING STAGE, PARKING
LAYOUT, PORTA-JOHN LOCATIONS AND VENDOR AREAS.(3) THE STAGE
AND AMPLIFIED MUSIC WILL BE POINTED IN A NORTHERLY DIRECTION,
TOWARD THE UNDEVELOPED STATE AND BLM LANDS.(4) CONCERT EVENT
LIGHTING SHOULD BE DIRECTED AWAY FROM TRAFFIC AND RESIDENTIAL
PROPERTIES, AND SHOULD BE SHUT OFF BY 10 P.M.(5) APPLICANTS
MUST PROVIDE FOR ADEQUATE SECURITY, SUFFICIENT PORTA-JOHNS, AND
PRE -EVENT WATERING DOWN OF ACTIVITY AREAS.(6) EVENT DAY
SIGNAGE MUST NOT BE PLACED IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OR OBSTRUCT
VEHICLE OR PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, AND MUST BE TAKEN DOWN
IMMEDICATELY FOLLOWING THE EVENT.(7) APPLICANTS ARE TO ADDRESS
ANY OTHER SAFETY, CIRCULATION AND TRAFFIC ISSUES WITH PUBLIC
SAFETY AND PUBLIC WORKS STAFF.
I FURTHER MOVE THAT PLANNING STAFF CONTINUE TO MEET WITH THE
PROPERTY OWNERS ON THE FILING OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
APPLICATION TO COMPREHENSIVELY ADDRESS THESE ISSUES AND OTHER
ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH CREATING A PERMANENT, OUTDOOR
ENTERTAINMENT VENUE ON THE PROPERTY.
SECONDED THE MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
PROPOSED ORDINANCE NO. 1407,
ANNEXATION CASE AN -1-14, A CITY-
INITIATED ANNEXATION OF A STRIP OF
APPROXIMATELY 50 ACRES OF VACANT
STATE TRUST LAND FOR ELLIOTT ROAD
RIGHT-OF-WAY NEAR THE MERIDIAN
DRIVE ALIGNMENT
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Councilmember Waldron
)Senior Planner Rudy
Esquivias briefed the council on the item.
Mayor Insalaco opened the
public hearing on the item.There being no one wishing to
speak, he closed the public hearing and called for council
discussion.There being no further discussion, he called for a
motion.
Councilmember Waldron MOVED
THAT ORDINANCE NO. 1407 BE READ BY TITLE ONLY AND THE READING OF
THE ENTIRE ORDINANCE BE WAIVED.
Councilmember Evans SECONDED
THE MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
read the ordinance by title only.
Councilmember Waldron MOVED
THAT ORDINANCE NO. 1407, AS READ BY THE CITY CLERK, BE APPROVED
AND ADOPTED.
Councilmember Wilson SECONDED
THE MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated for item numbers 11 and 12, the annexation has to be
voted on first as they cannot rezone a property that is not
annexed yet.
Mayor Insalaco asked if they
can do both together but they would have to do the vote on the
annexation first.
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City Attorney Joel Stern
stated they can.One public hearing for both would be fine.
PROPOSED ORDINANCE NO. 1409,
ANNEXATION CASE PZ-4-14, A REQUEST
BY MESA DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND
JBW INVESTMENTS LLC FOR A REZONING
OF SEVERAL PROPERTIES AT THE
SOUTHEAST CORNER OF TOMAHAWK ROAD
AND US 60/PROPOSED ORDINANCE NO.
1408, ANNEXATION CASE AN -2-14, A
REQUEST BY MESA DEVELOPMENT
CORPORATION AND JBW INVESTMENTS LLC
FOR ANNEXATION OF AND ASSIGNMENT OF
CITY ZONING DISTRICTS TO PROPERTIES
LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF
TOMAHAWK ROAD AND US 60
)Senior Planner Rudy
Esquivias briefed the council on the items.
Mayor Insalaco requested the
applicant address the council.
Mr. John Wharton, 1580 E. San
Remo, Gilbert, addressed the council for any questions.He
stated this property has a problem he would like to discuss.
There is only one point of access to this property, where 34th
Avenue comes in.There is also only one access to Bill's Ghost
on the other side of the freeway and the cars stack up like
crazy.Bill's Ghost is on one acre and he has 5 acres of
commercial.It will stack up like crazy.It is not a nice
place to put a really good retail center.They have a hotel
interested but they keep asking what else will be in there.
They do not want their customers not being able to get in and
out.He asked the council to amend item number 6 which
eliminates the number of uses.Either eliminate 6 altogether or
possibly say those uses are allowed with a special use permit.
Let those users come to the city and show a plan that might be
workable.With the type of retail uses the city would like to
use, the hotel will balk and walk.It is not feasible from that
standpoint.
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Mayor Insalaco asked Rudy to
help them with that.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated he had not heard these concerns to this extent before.
It is up to the council.He asked if they want to allow storage
lots, check cashing places, pawn shops, and tattoo parlors.
Mayor Insalaco commented they
do not.
Councilmember Waldron asked
which of the uses listed in there he would object to.It is a
laundry list.
Mr. John Wharton stated it is
a laundry list, so he does not know what would happen if they
talk with Choice Hotels and they want to put in a nice hotel.
They want to be able to have their people come in and out and
they want to know before they invest money what their neighbors
are going to be like and what the traffic will be like that will
be generated by that user.He suggested letting him tell them a
lot of uses are available but many of them, the ones suggested
by the board, are subject to a use permit, which may or may not
be allowed.For him to just say the only thing that will be
allowed in there now is retail, they will say they cannot get
cars in and out of there.They will go somewhere else.
Mayor Insalaco commented he
does not completely understand.
Councilmember Waldron
commented that was part of his question.These uses are not
compatible with a motel, such as horse privileges.
Mr. John Wharton stated he is
not suggesting massage parlors and check cashing places.He is
just saying whatever comes, such as another Horne Ford wanting
to build a place on part of it next to the hotel or what.But
to put together a conceptual site plan where one could
anticipate heavy traffic is scaring people off.
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Councilmember Evans commented
her background is in real estate.Looking at this, if she was
going to build a hotel, she would say "Yay".This stuff that is
not compatible with her use is not allowed there.What he is
saying confuses her.She understands about the back up while
trying to pull out from the location he mentioned.But without
a site plan showing how big Choice Hotels would want to build,
they do not know how much of this would even be available after
they were done with it.Use that for a restriction.
Mr. John Wharton stated that
is a good question.They had brought a site plan to the city
previously.Choice Hotels would require about two acres, which
is about 40% of this site.It would leave the balance of it,
mostly to the east, of about 3 acres.Bill's Ghost has one
acre, this is five acres coming out of one access point.It •
would behoove him to get the highest and heaviest retail in the
world in there as he would get more for the land.He knows she
understands real estate, but the more money they can generate,
the higher the land value.In this case, the access 'will not
allow it.It is the only reason he brings it up.He has had
this property for years and has been trying to sell it.He
knows what the people are saying.They are saying the access to
this property is poor and they can see that by Bill's Ghost.It
is the same thing.
Mayor Insalaco asked what he
is suggesting.He asked if he wants another access.
Mr. John Wharton stated he
would love to have more access.There is no other access.The
Arizona Department of Transportation will not allow any more
access.That is the freeway on ramp at the top and to the south
is an existing mobile home park.There is no other access.
Councilmember Evans commented
she is still trying to follow him.The best, highest piece of
this is along Tomahawk.With the objection he is stating, she
asked what he sees happening back there that would have less
traffic involved with it.These are not the highest and best
retail uses that are on the list of objections.She asked what
he sees as having less traffic that could be placed on the
majority part of the parcel.
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Mr. John Wharton stated they
could have another automobile dealership or an office complex.
Councilmember Evans commented
those are allowed.
Vice Mayor Barker commented
all those things are allowed.
Mayor Insalaco commented that
is allowed.
Mr. John Wharton stated the
office complex is allowed.The automobile dealership is not
allowed.
those are allowed.
all those things are allowed.
is allowed.
Mayor Insalaco asked if that
was correct.
Mr. John Wharton stated car
sales are not allowed.RV sales are not allowed.
Councilmember Evans commented
that is pretty small for a car dealer other than used cars.
Mr. John Wharton stated he
understands but a car dealer, maybe the hotel will not want the
parcel, maybe the car dealer will take the entire parcel.
Councilmember Rizzi asked if
this would accommodate the hotel and a building with businesses
on the bottom floor and apartments on the top floor.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated it would.
Councilmember Evans commented
like a live/work situation.
Mr. John Wharton stated he is
asking that any of these uses be brought to the city with an
application for a special use permit, instead of just carte
blanche taking them off.
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Councilmember Rizzi commented
she thinks the reason they have done that is to diversify our
community with the businesses we have.It seems like we have a
saturation point of certain types of businesses and they are
trying to diversify and branch out.
Mr. John Wharton stated he
understood and his parcel has been vacant for a long time.He
has been trying to sell it for years.If the access is a
question, and it is, then people are not going to want to use
it.
Councilmember Evans commented
instead of having six, as it is written, we just said any other
commercial business requires a conditional use permit.
Mr. John Wharton stated that
is correct.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated when they get to the part of the paragraph that states
"include the uses normally allowed under the B-1 base zone" add
"except that the following uses shall require a conditional use
permit", or language to that effect.
Councilmember Evans commented
but he is saying he does not want the verbiage in there anywhere
where it lists the uses.
Mr. John Wharton stated
listing the uses is fine.
Councilmember Evans commented
he just wants it by conditional use permit.Understanding the
challenges of this parcel and what could go in there, with the
limited ingress and egress to it, building in the front instead
of in the furthest east piece is something as a hotel, multi-
story and easily seen than even a car dealership that would be
down low.She did not know if it would be more beneficial for
him to develop it first in back and then move forward.
Mr. John Wharton stated they
are not developers, they are just trying to read what the market
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is telling them.They have told him they are very interested in
the property but they have concerns.
Councilmember Evans commented
they did not list them separately other than the ingress and
egress to the back part of the parcel.
Mr. John Wharton stated they
did not.They were concerned with just getting in and out onto
Tomahawk.If other peoples' clientele is backing up traffic
there then their clientele would have a hard time getting in and
out.They would just as soon go somewhere else.
Vice Mayor Barker commented
she was going to ask Gail to give her parcel numbers as she said
here and here.That would help.
they are looking at the map.
she is looking at it also.
she is not looking at it right now.
Councilmember Evans commented
Vice Mayor Barker commented
Councilmember Evans commented
Vice Mayor Barker asked if
there can be no other turns if they are from Tomahawk between
34th Avenue and US 60.She asked if there can be no other
driveways or somewhere there.
Councilmember Evans commented
there could not be one in the deceleration lane.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated the property to the south is developed.It is outside
the city limits.They are trying to get the people to the south
to agree to installation of a decel lane or some other type of
public improvement.By the way, there is another entrance to
the property very close to what is the entrance to this other
property.One of the conditions that staff is suggesting is to
allow for future reconfiguration of the property.It does not
have to stay in this configuration.For example, one of the
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early concept plans was one from 2010 which showed a hotel on
2.2 acres and some commercial pads to the west of the hotel.
The access is configured differently than it is currently
parceled out.There is opportunity within the development where
it can be designed depending on the future developer's needs.
The access point, however, is 50' wide, and that is it.The
possibility of another access across Arizona Department of
Transportation right-of-way is extremely remote.They are
basically limited to the 50' wide entrance.That is the typical
public street standard entrance.The right-of-way is there and
extends across the south and other parts of the property.It
can be reconfigured to a more advantageous plan.
Mayor Insalaco asked if they
could put in another access further away.
Vice Mayor Barker agreed.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated he does not think they have any other access in.
Mayor Insalaco commented if
they have one down here they cannot put another one up there.
Councilmember Waldron asked
if that was not a right-of-way.
Mayor Insalaco commented they
have that right-of-way.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated once they get to a certain point it becomes Arizona
Department of Transportation right-of-way.This is it.It is
the 50' entrance to serve this development site.
Vice Mayor Barker asked if
34th Avenue could be widened in his portion if they annexed the
entire piece.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated that would have to be a discussion they would have to
have with the Arizona Department of Transportation.
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Vice Mayor Barker asked if
the part that is on 34th Avenue is Arizona Department of
Transportation.She knows they have a piece out there.
Assistant to the City Manager
Matt Busby stated he thinks she is saying 34th Avenue could be
widened more on the north side on his property.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated it could be widened within the property, but the entrance
is probably going to have to stay the same.
Councilmember Evans commented
they could have two lanes exiting.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated 50' is probably wide enough for four lanes, two in and
two out.
Mr. John Wharton stated there
will be people turning left and people turning right.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated it may be at the time of development a traffic study will
be required.
Vice Mayor Barker and
Councilmember Evans agreed.
Councilmember Evans asked Mr.
Wharton if he is asking them to just add the verbiage on the
conditional use permit.
Mr. John Wharton stated that
is correct.
Councilmember Rizzi commented
she does not have a concern about changing the verbiage,
however, it is almost like making a list of items we do not want
and then if we add the verbiage be saying we might consider
these down the road.If they do not want to consider this list
of things, they should not add the verbiage.They have already
made the list of items they do not want there, so why would they
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add the verbiage that down the road would say they might
consider it.They need to diversify the businesses here.
Adding the verbiage, in her opinion, is like going back on the
reason they had the list to begin with.
Councilmember Evans agreed
with her.They had the same similar situation on the north side
of US 60 and Idaho where the ownership would build the hotel and
agreed to a certain palette of uses we would not allow.They
kept saying they had buyers come to the city and they never
heard from them again.She asked the owner who came, what kind
of business were they presenting and what were their questions
after that.They never had any.Understanding what he is
saying, other than a hotel chain, she asked what, if any, other
kind of interest he has had in the property from businesses that
are on this list.
Mr. John Wharton stated none.
And he has no interest in selling to those people.That is not
their goal.Their goal is to placate the kind of tenants that
you want.It obviously has an access problem.He thinks anyone
can imagine the problem it would have just by looking at Bill's
Ghost.They do not want to scare them off with the threat of
lots of cars coming in and out.
Mayor Insalaco commented
almost any business they put in there will have cars going in
and out.
Mr. John Wharton stated some
create more than others.Look at Bill's Ghost.They have a
convenience store, gas and a drive thru restaurant.Then look
at Horne Ford and how many cars come in and out of there.There
is quite a difference.
Mayor Insalaco commented he
just said he might want to put a car dealership in there.
Mr. John Wharton stated his
point is that car dealerships do not create as much traffic as
gasoline or a fast food restaurant.
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Councilmember Waldron
commented car dealerships are not on the list of not allowed
uses.
Mr. John Wharton stated it
was; it is not there now.
Mayor Insalaco commented it
is used car lots like we have up and down the Trail.They are
just junkers.A new car facility is another thing.
Councilmember Waldron
commented he thinks diesel repair would mean trucks.
Assistant to the City Manager
Matt Busby stated he believed Larry wanted to offer some
perspective or idea.
Development Services Director
Larry Kirch stated used car sales are not allowed.New car
sales would be.Any car dealer is going to want exposure.To
have any car dealer behind a hotel is a tough site to sell cars
from something as that does not have exposure.One is already
passed it on the freeway when one sees the used cars.Not all
of these uses but many of these uses were brought up last night
at the work session on Grant Therion's proposal.These are not
desired uses in many of our commercial areas.His
recommendation would be to stick to your guns and prohibit these
uses.He thinks the hotel developer would be part of the
planned development process.They can work on access and site
plan with the developer.
so they do not have that problem.
Councilmember Evans commented
Councilmember Rizzi agreed.
Councilmember Serdy commented
he was perplexed because as a business owner that retails he
would love to see more traffic and he is not used to seeing
someone that does not want traffic.He thinks since it has
changed from Bill's Ghost to Circle K the traffic has increased
a lot.Bill's Ghost was failing and Circle K has turned it
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around.He is asking them to have almost every business in
there be approved by the council.
Mr. John Wharton stated he
really is not.He is just saying he does not have any regard
for any of those uses whatsoever.If they had simply said any
other use would require a special use permit that would suit him
fine.He does not need a listing of those.He has no interest
in having any of those.He is just trying to placate the users
he knows are very concerned about developing and investing their
money on a site that is going to have ingress and egress
problems.If they could imagine with Bill's Ghost, not just one
acre but five acres coming through that one in and out spot.
Councilmember Serdy commented
it will be even busier.We would definitely want more rooms.
If you talk to the chamber of commerce, one of the things they
want is more hotel rooms out here as they do feed the
restaurants, etc.Rudy stated it is very difficult to get
another egress.He asked what the process is and if the city
has ever gotten approval from the Arizona Department of
Transportation to get more accesses.He asked what they would
have to do to do it.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated they have not been able to do so to his knowledge.For
example, this past week they had a discussion with some
appraisers representing the Arizona Department of Transportation
through the attorney general's office for the development at
Meridian and Southern and the limit of their access because of
the new freeway interchange there.It sounded to him that
Arizona Department of Transportation was very inflexible about
the number of access points they will allow on their right-of-
way.
Councilmember Serdy asked why
it is so precious to them.He asked if it is for future
expansion.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated he thinks they just want to limit the impact on their
right-of-way and the other facilities they may need to put in
their right-of-way.They have their spacing requirements and
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their number of driveway requirements.If they present a better
plan or convince them to modify requirements, there is always
that possibility.It is his experience that it is very, very
difficult to do that with the Arizona Department of
Transportation.Regarding the convenience store, Bill's Ghost,
the property, by itself, does have a single access point.This
is one lot.It is surrounded by a 17.5 acre property which will
have another access point in another area.The two parcels do
not have to share the same access point.This access point is
serving just one business property.
Councilmember Evans commented
that the access point on 34th Avenue could be wider depending
upon a planned site plan.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated it could be widened internally, or inside the property.
Councilmember Evans commented
it would not gain additional access but it would stop the build
up seen at Bill's Ghost because it is a single lane there.A
developer could make that change himself.
Mayor Insalaco commented now
he is all confused.
Vice Mayor Barker and
Councilmember Waldron agreed.
Assistant to the City Manager
Matt Busby stated he wanted to clarify something with Mr.
Wharton.One of his last statements turned the light bulb on in
his head.He stated none of the other uses are desirable in his
mind, which is in agreement with the council.He thinks he
heard him say that any other use would require the conditional
use permit.The thought is if the hotel comes in on the first
parcel, they would want a say on what goes in on the property
behind them through a conditional use process.He asked if that
is what he was getting at.
Mr. John Wharton stated he
supposed they would definitely have some input.He thinks what
they are looking for is the possibility that the rest of this
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can be used in a less intense way.Something that does not
require a lot of cars coming in.That does not mean it does not
have jobs and so forth.It is not something in such a retail
manner that brings lots of traffic in and out of there.That is
what their fear is.
Mayor Insalaco asked why they
do not just put in a bigger hotel.
Assistant to the City Manager
Matt Busby stated he is saying they would not develop every
parcel at the same time.
Councilmember Evans commented
but they want to have a say.
Assistant to the City Manager
Matt Busby stated they want to have a say in what goes in there
in the future.
Councilmember Evans commented
they want what the conditional use permit addition would give.
Mayor Insalaco commented not
to put a conditional use permit on those items when he said that
about number 6; that is what he said in the beginning.
Councilmember Evans commented
Matt just clarified what he had been trying to say and what
confused them in the beginning.
Councilmember Waldron
commented these are disallowed uses.Any other use allowed in a
commercial district would be allowed without a conditional use.
Assistant to the City Manager
Matt Busby stated that is not his concern.Let us say that a
hotel develops on the front parcel in three years.In five
years, something else comes in that is very high traffic and
volume.A fast food drive thru wants to develop behind the
hotel.The hotel does not want that because of the traffic and
they are afraid their access to them is being filled by just in
and out fast food.The concern would be, and what he believes
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Mr. Wharton is saying, when the development comes in for the
fast food, the hotel will want to say to the city council that
they have a concern for the traffic that this use would cause on
our customers.
Mr. John Wharton stated that
is correct.
Councilmember Evans asked if
he feels, as they have a situation with another hotel in that
area, they would disallow another hotel.
Mr. John Wharton stated he
did not think so.They tend to cluster together.
Councilmember Evans commented
they do, but the city had a unique situation with another hotel
site.
Mayor Insalaco asked the city
attorney if it is legal to do it that way.He asked if it could
be done, if the hotel could have say on whatever goes in there.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated they would have to have a public hearing and they have a
right to come to the public hearing.They have a right to speak
if they are within 300 feet.They would get a notice.They can
state their opinion.The whole access issue has come up before.
At Idaho and the freeway, the Chevron station wanted a closer
entrance and they could not have one.He recalled Goldfield and
US 60 back in 1999.There was going to be a hospital there and
they wanted a closer entrance and unfortunately that entrance is
a private roadway into Dolce Vita.But it does come up.He
remembers this going back to 1999; this has always been an
issue.Arizona Department of Transportation will not allow a
certain distance for safety or for whatever reason.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated it is not just the freeway and the Arizona Department of
Transportation, it is also any of their other roadways.They
may recall Idaho and Old West Highway where Quik Trip and
Walgreen's were told where they could put their exits and
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entrances.She asked if something comes to the mayor and
council for conditional use permits or how does it work.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated a conditional use permit would only go the planning and
zoning commission.The only way it would come to the council
would be if someone appealed it.In that sense, requiring these
suggested excluded uses to be processed through a conditional
use permit, those requests would go to the planning and zoning
commission.There is a list of uses there.One of the other
conditions states if someone wants to deviate from the
conditions of approval they can process a planned development
amendment.If someone wants to do an RV storage lot behind the
hotel or some other use we are recommending not be allowed,
today would require a planned development amendment which is
planning and zoning commission and the council.If they include
language in there about a conditional use permit it would only
go the planning and zoning commission.It is a shorter process.
Councilmember Evans commented
both would give surrounding owners the ability to come and
address.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated everybody within 300 feet would receive notice.
Councilmember Evans commented
the way it is right now, he really does have what he is asking
for.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated that is correct.
Councilmember Waldron
commented item number 8 in the ordinance would cover that.He
believes that is what it is in there for.
Councilmember Evans asked Mr.
Wharton if that made sense to him.
Mr. Wharton stated he is not
sure because he is not certain of the procedures.
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Councilmember Evans commented
as long as he is confident.She asked if he is going to split
this parcel and keep the back half and sell the front half.If
a hotel wants the front half, he could still retain ownership of
the back half.
Mr. John Wharton stated that
is correct.
Councilmember Evans commented
he does not want these uses and he wants the front parcel to be
able to have a say or object to what else may come in.
Mr. John Wharton stated he
wants them to have whatever is required by law.He is not
looking for them to have any special say.
Councilmember Evans commented
she thinks what he asked for we now know is still here.She
wanted to make sure he is confident about the way this is
written, that he is getting what he is asking them to do.They
are going to leave in these because we do not want which you
said you also do not want.
Mr. John Wharton stated not
necessarily.That is not his goal.He just wants it to be more
clear.He does not have any interest in those, but he does not
have any interest in excluding them.He has nothing to gain by
that, other than excluding them can make the property more
appealing to the user.
Councilmember Rizzi commented
they have already established they can create an avenue for this
hotel chain or whatever to have a say.She asked if they have a
current instance in the city where that is being done for
another business or site.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated the only situation that may be similar in nature that
comes to mind is the property at 29th Avenue and Idaho, just
north of US 60.When that little commercial subdivision was
created the hotel that went in there, there was a deed
restriction saying no other hotel could locate in that
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commercial center.The other properties have not developed
aside from the gas station and the hotel.The other five or six
lots have not been developed and many of the inquiries have come
from other hotels, but the property owners could not sell those
lots to the other hotels because of that deed restriction.
Maybe what Mr. Wharton is talking about is some kind of a deed
restriction that gives the first user some kind of right of
exclusion.He is not sure.
Councilmember Rizzi commented
they have already clarified that he has that safety valve, with
the way it is currently written and not changing the verbiage.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated it is.If he wants the ability to protest if these types
of uses come up, he will have that right because this is within
300 feet.
Councilmember Rizzi commented
he has his safety valve and we have ours the way it is currently
written.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated he believed so.
Mayor Insalaco asked Mr.
Wharton if he understood what they were talking about.
Mr. Wharton stated he does.
He is just trying to be as clear as he can.If this access
cannot be made comfortable we are not going to get who he would
like to get in there.We are not going to get a hotel that
everybody says they want in there.He has heard it from John Q.
Public, he has heard it from staff, he has heard it from Janine,
and everybody seems to want to see this hotel.Their concern,
aside from signage, they want the same signage everybody else
has, is they want to have access easy in and out.If it is
going to be congested it will not happen.Maybe it will, but he
is telling them he does not think it will.
Vice Mayor Barker commented
she took a six week trip this summer and stayed in many choice
motels.They were way in back with tiny little driveways
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leading all over.There was a way around all this congestion
and they worked fine with it.There was no problem.If you
want to stay at the hotel, you go however they tell you to go.
Councilmember Serdy commented
he was just getting involved in city business in 2005.This is
the same property where the Value Place was going to go.
Mayor Insalaco commented it
is not.
Vice Mayor Barker agreed it
is not.
There was general discussion
on where Value Place was going to go.It was determined it was
going to be further north.
Councilmember Serdy commented
they did not have these concerns because they were not dealing
with the Arizona Department of Transportation problem.
Councilmember Waldron
commented he wanted to read him item number 8.He thinks it
covers all that he is asking for.It states "any request for
deviation from the city's development standards or for uses
determined by the zoning administrator to not be conducive to
creating commercial, retail, office opportunities shall require
a separate planned development amendment, rezoning, landscape
code appeal or conditional use permit process first, as may be
appropriate".That is part of the ordinance.That is part of
the process.
Mayor Insalaco asked Rudy to
put it up on the overhead so everyone can see it and he can see
it himself.
There was general discussion
as to what agenda item they were still on.
Mayor Insalaco commented that
should cover what he is talking about.
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Vice Mayor Barker agreed.
Mr. John Wharton stated he
does not know what to say.He is not sure if he should say yes,
that he agrees with what that says or not.He probably needs to
have some counsel help.He suggested they table this for a
while because he does not know how to respond.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated someone can make a motion to continue this matter.Make
it a date certain so that it does not have to be republished.
Vice Mayor Barker asked if
that would be both ordinances.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated he would recommend both.
There was general discussion
on the date to continue the item to and whether they needed a
work session or just the public hearing.
Mayor Insalaco opened the
public hearing on the items.There being no one wishing to
speak, he closed the public hearing and called for a motion.
Vice Mayor Barker MOVED THAT
WE CONTINUE THESE ITEMS, ITEMS 11 AND 12, TO TUESDAY, JANUARY 6,
2015 FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
Councilmember Evans SECONDED
THE MOTION.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated this is on both items 11 and 12.She asked if they would
need a separate motion on these items.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated he did not think so.It should be fine.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
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Mayor Insalaco commented he
thinks number 8 will probably help him out.
OLD BUSINESS
None.
NEW BUSINESS
None.
DIRECTION TO STAFF
None.
SELECTION OF MEETING DATES, TIMES, LOCATIONS, AND PURPOSES
Councilmember Waldron MOVED
THAT AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 5:45 P.M. AND A WORK SESSION AT
7:00 P.M. BE HELD ON MONDAY, JANUARY 5, 2015, IN THE CITY
COUNCIL CONFERENCE ROOM AND CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS RESPECTIVELY;
AND
THAT AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 5:45 P.M. BE HELD ON TUESDAY,
JANUARY 6, 2015, IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
Councilmember Evans SECONDED
THE MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
CALL TO THE PUBLIC:
None.
ADJOURNMENT
)Mayor Insalaco wished
everyone a Happy Hanukah, Happy Holidays, and Merry Christmas.
He adjourned the meeting at 8:45 p.m.
Consent Agenda Items are as follows:
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1. Acceptance of Agenda.
2. Approval of Minutes of Regular Meeting of December 2, 2014.
3. Consideration and action on Resolution No. 14-46,
authorizing the city to enter into an Intergovernmental
Agreement with the Arizona Department of Revenue modifying
its auditing authority.
4. Consideration and action on Resolution No. 14-45, allowing
the city to continue to collect transaction privilege tax
licensing fees.
ACCEPTED THIS 6TH DAY OF JANUARY, 2015, BY THE MAYOR AND CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF APACHE JUNCTION, ARIZONA.
SIGNED AND ATTESTED TO THIS 6TH DAY OF JANUARY, 2015.
ATTEST:
-el
KATHLEEN CONNELLY
City Clerk
N S. INSALACO
ayor
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and
correct copy of the minutes of the regular meeting of the City
Council of the City of Apache Junction, Arizona, held on the
16th day of December, 2014.I further certify that the meeting
was duly called and held and that a quorum was present.
Dated this 23rd day of December, 2014.
KATHLEEN CONNELLY
City Clerk
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