HomeMy WebLinkAbout2012-01-03 City Council Regular MinutesCITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING
JANUARY 3, 2012
The regular meeting of the City Council of the City of
Apache Junction, Arizona, was held on January 3, 2012, at the
Apache Junction City Council Chambers pursuant to the notice
required by law.
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Insalaco called the meeting to order at 7:07 p.m.
INVOCATION
Councilmember Wilson gave the Invocation.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Councilmember Coleman led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
Councilmembers Present:Mayor Insalaco
Vice Mayor Dietz
Councilmember Barker
Councilmember Coleman
Councilmember Serdy
Councilmember Smithson
Councilmember Wilson
Staff Present:City Manager George Hoffman
Assistant City Manager Bryant Powell
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
City Attorney Joel Stern
Public Safety Director Jerald Monahan
Interim Public Works Director/City
Engineer Giao Pham
Library Director Spencer Paden
Others Present:Program Coordinator Heather Patel
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Public Works Manager Shane Kiesow
Senior Project Engineer Emile Schmid
Business Advocate Janine Solley
ACCEPTANCE OF CONSENT AGENDA
)Vice Mayor Dietz MOVED
THAT THE CONSENT AGENDA BE ACCEPTED AS PRESENTED; AND
THAT RESOLUTION NO. 11-53, A RESOLUTION OF THE MAYOR AND CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF APACHE JUNCTION, ARIZONA, RETROACTIVELY
AUTHORIZING THE CITY OF APACHE JUNCTION TO ENTER INTO A
PERFORMANCE CONTRACT AND RELATED FINANCIAL AGREEMENT WITH
SIEMENS INDUSTRY, INC., BE APPROVED; AND
THAT THE APPOINTMENT OF LIBRARY DIRECTOR SPENCER PADEN BY THE
CITY MANAGER PURSUANT OT APACHE JUNCTION CITY CODE SECTION 3-11-
1(B), BE RATIFIED.
Councilmember Coleman
SECONDED THE MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
AWARDS, PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS
City Manager George Hoffman gave a presentation on Library
Director Spencer Paden receiving his 25 -year service award.
Mayor Insalaco presented him with a certificate, a certificate
for time off and a digital frame with some pictures.
ANNOUNCEMENT OF CURRENT EVENTS
Councilmember Wilson commented on the horses the city had
acquired, the assistance given to the city from businesses and
private citizens on behalf of these horses and that they now
have new homes.
CITY MANAGER'S REPORT
City Manager George Hoffman read a note regarding a phone call
from the manager of the Lamplighter Mobile Home Park thanking
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public works staff for their work, commented on the 2011 Salt
River Project Community Involvement Report noting Arizona
Project WET and the December 2011 East Valley Gateway Magazine
article on volunteers, the city explorer program, an article on
city projects, the Legends advertisement and a plug for Lost
Dutchman Days.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
APPLICATION FOR A LIQUOR LICENSE
FOR CIRCLE K STORE #3442
)City Clerk Kathleen
Connelly briefed the council on the item.
Mayor Insalaco requested the
applicant address the council.
Mr. David Cerchevski,
representing Circle K Corporation, addressed the council.He
was there to answer any questions on the project.
Mayor Insalaco asked when
they will start building it.
Mr. David Cerchevski stated
they hope to be in to get the building permits within the next
couple of weeks, start construction in mid -spring and be open
mid -summer.
Councilmember Barker asked
what would be happening to the huge billboard.
Mr. David Cerchevski stated
it would be coming down as part of the project.
Mayor Insalaco opened the
public hearing on the item.
Mr. Elliott Fisher, 547 E.
Quail, Apache Junction, addressed the council.He was glad to
see Circle K expanding in Apache Junction and hoped they would
keep up the level of cleanliness of some of their competitors.
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Mayor Insalaco closed the
public hearing with no one else wishing to speak and reopened
the item to council discussion.There being no further
discussion, he called for a motion.
Councilmember Coleman MOVED
THAT THE APPLICATION FOR A LOCATION TRANSFER, CORPORATION,
SERIES 9 LIQUOR LICENSE FOR CIRCLE K STORE #3442, SUBMITTED BY
KIM KWIATKOWSKI, BE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL TO THE ARIZONA
DEPARTMENT OF LIQUOR LICENSES AND CONTROL.
Councilmember Barker SECONDED
THE MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
CONTINUATION OF PUBLIC HEARING ON
RESOLUTION NO. 11-49, AUTHORIZING
THE SUBMISSION OF APPLICATION FOR
FISCAL YEAR 2012 COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT AND
FISCAL YEAR 2012 STATE SPECIAL
PROJECT PROGRAMS
)Program Coordinator
Heather Patel briefed the council on the item.
Vice Mayor Dietz asked if
they had settled on the $300,000 grant.
Program Coordinator Heather
Patel stated they did have a decision on that but it will be
formally voted on tonight.
Vice Mayor Dietz commented
they formally decided one but put off the other.
Program Coordinator Heather
Patel stated they could not separate them out as they are in the
same resolution.She continued on with her briefing.
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Mayor Insalaco opened the
public hearing on the item.
Mr. Elliott Fisher, 547 E.
Quail, Apache Junction, addressed the council.He was concerned
that they would lean towards the commercial areas that could get
investors.He would favor them putting the money into the
neighborhoods for the drainage issues.If they go into the
commercial areas with this money he would like to see it limited
to something with public benefit, such as the sewer or
disability access.He would not like to see the sidewalks put
in for the commercial projects on Apache Trail.
Mayor Insalaco closed the
public hearing with no one else wishing to speak and reopened
the item to council discussion.
Councilmember Serdy commented
he had pondered this for a long time and he would like to get
the most use for the most people.If they get the businesses to
thrive down there a little more, as they just had the gallery
close and there is a new restaurant opening in that area, he
would like them to be successful.It needs to be more vibrant
and useful down there, in which case hundreds of thousands of
people would get to use this each year.As it sits right now,
only a few hundred would use it.Once it gets successful, then
thousands would be using the crosswalks as there would be more
things for them to do down there.If they could pull more lake
traffic from Idaho, they would get more tax dollars.He is
still leaning towards the commercial rehabilitation.Some of
the concerns that came up are definite concerns.We do not want
this to just go into the pockets of the people.The people that
are starting these businesses are far from one percenters and
are struggling to even make it.We do not have to worry about
that.
Councilmember Barker
commented Councilmember Serdy had thought earlier that he would
not be here this evening and the city manager had written down
and distributed his thoughts and some of them were excellent
points.Her concern on the commercial rehabilitation on this
particular round of the Community Development Block Grant is all
of the criteria decisions that have to be made prior to going
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out for this grant.We have to know how they are going to hold
these folks accountable and how they are going to make sure it
benefits the most people.It seems they have a job ahead of
them to come up with criteria before we decide to do this.It
seems like they are putting the cart before the horse.
Councilmember Serdy commented
it is too vague the way it is drawn up.
Councilmember Barker
commented it is very vague right now.
Councilmember Serdy commented
they would love to be able to do all of these projects right
now.They are all worthwhile.
Mayor Insalaco and
Councilmember Barker agreed.
Vice Mayor Dietz commented
that is kind of the reason why we like to have things put
together and put on a shelf.They then have projects for the
next one, the next one and so on.They have some of these
things ironed out beforehand.They will have this pretty much
laid out for the next one.They could do it and proceed with
the project.
Councilmember Barker stated
it would be a good idea to have it done.
Councilmember Serdy commented
one of the things they looked into was demolition.They get
asked all the time if the city can tear some of that ugly stuff
down there.They checked and it is not eligible for this.It
would have been of great use if they could tear some stuff down
and let people start over.If they did go for the commercial
rehabilitation, which he gets the feeling they are not going to,
the improvements need to stay and should not be able to leave.
Councilmember Barker stated
they have to do some kind of measurable accountability of those
business owners that would guarantee that the funding they were
assisted with, be it a loan or in whatever form, that there
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would be some way for the city to make sure that the business is
still there and they do not take advantage of this and put it up
for sale.We would then have another empty building sitting
there.The building has been wonderfully rehabilitated but it
is not doing anyone any good; it is not helping anyone in the
community to do that.That particular project is a very worthy
project wherein they need to take the next couple of months and
determine some criteria that could be used and be fair for big
businesses and small businesses and have the most impact for the
community, not just the businesses.
Councilmember Smithson stated
he has an uncomfortable feeling with spending public funds on
private property to benefit private individuals.He thinks it
is a great idea to help them, if what they do is to make public
improvements on a public right-of-way that will encourage people
to do more with their property to improve it.Eventually the
benefit of that is businesses coming in, improving the area and
our sales tax revenue increasing.Businesses would grow and
increase.He would be more comfortable with private individuals
owning the private property taking the risk and putting the
money in.He would be in favor of public improvements that
would encourage that.Contrary to what he just said, he could
see some benefit with, although he is still uncomfortable with
it, helping individuals with housing rehabilitation.It does
not feel as uncomfortable to him as helping businesses.
Councilmember Barker
commented he mentioned he was more comfortable with projects in
the public right-of-way that might encourage businesses.There
are several projects on this list that might meet that.They
could put both grants towards North Apache Trail.There are the
ramps and sidewalks across the Focal Point intersection.She
agrees with Elliott that the sidewalks down Winchester are not
being used.It would be foolish right now, but 10 years from
now when the college finishes all their improvements and they
get a huge influx of students and they have a lot of places that
students would want to walk to from the college, then it would
be a great place for a sidewalk.
Vice Mayor Dietz commented he
likes the idea of using both grants for North Apache Trail.If
they use just the State Special Project, it is $300,000.Our
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leverage would be $157,600.If we use both of the grants, that
brings our leverage down to $37,600.That is a lot more
affordable for out of pocket for the city.
Mayor Insalaco commented he
knows it is a lot of money, but his heart lays with the four
streets south of the Trail that are continuously flooding.He
knows it is a big drainage problem, but sooner or later they
cannot let it get any worse.It is something that needs to be
done.
he could not agree with that more.
Councilmember Smithson stated
Councilmember Barker agreed.
Mayor Insalaco stated you go
by there and it looks like slums.He cannot blame those people
that live in those homes.It is terrible.
Councilmember Smithson stated
it is embarrassing and awful.
Vice Mayor Dietz commented
this is at Ocotillo, Main and Palo Verde.The phasing is not
recommended by the city engineer.
Councilmember Barker stated
it is a $1.3 to $1.4 million project.They are talking about
$120,000.It is literally a drop in the bucket.
Councilmember Smithson stated
the graph indicates $100 million.He assumes that is a typo.
Vice Mayor Dietz commented
they could probably spend $100 million on drainage in the city.
Councilmember Serdy commented
they need to keep in mind that the city has no income and they
cannot run the city on grants forever.They will be drying up.
They need the tax dollars to come in down there and they may not
have many more chances to do something down there.
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Vice Mayor Dietz commented he
thinks North Apache Trail will help with the redevelopment in
the area.They have Phelps and Plaza done, and if they can get
this done it could draw everything into the area.It shows
commitment by the city in that area.He is sure it will look
good in developers' eyes.
Councilmember Barker
commented he brought up an interesting point when he said that
if they throw both of these into North Apache Trail it comes out
to $37,000.
Vice Mayor Dietz commented it
is $37,000 instead of $157,000.
Councilmember Barker
commented that is quite a chunk.The crosswalks would also have
a leverage of $30,000.It is very close and one is a much
larger project.
City Manager George Hoffman
asked if they would try and punch out the entire project if both
grants were applied to this.He asked if they have non -general
fund money that can be used for that.He hears the council
saying they can be frugal with our match, but from a staff
perspective, he asked if they trying to bite off the whole thing
or not.
Assistant City Manager Bryant
Powell stated staff has talked about this several times with
public works.We feel like it would be in the best interest to
do the project all at one time, from mobilization of the
contractor and so on.
Interim Public Works
Director/City Engineer Giao Pham stated when they bid out for
projects they usually like to bid it out all at once.When you
phase it in, the contractor has to mobilize his equipment.
There is a charge for each time you mobilize his equipment or a
staging area.They have to set up traffic control.When they
go out to bid, phase one is the earthwork.The contractor has
to locate the site, mobilize his equipment and do traffic
control.Once they do that, if they are doing it in phases, he
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then has to take the site down and remobilize his equipment.We
are not guaranteed we will be using the same contractor.We
might not get a cost savings there.When they look at the
projects, they try to bundle them up as one or two projects to
keep the phasing to a minimal and have a cost savings overall.
Vice Mayor Dietz commented if
they submitted both of these for North Apache Trail and they
have already got phase one, which is $330,000, we are almost
there at $700,000 on a million dollar project.Material cost
and everything else will keep going up if we have to wait
another couple of years.If we have got the funds available in
another account, redevelopment money somewhere, we might be able
to use it to complete it.
City Manager George Hoffman
stated that is correct.One scenario could be that they use
these two grants plus the one he mentioned to punch out North
Apache Trail.They could then come back at a separate council
meeting to get direction to staff to pursue the commercial
rehabilitation grant and begin working for the multi -month
period of time it will probably take to work with the council to
develop the guidelines for that for a subsequent grant.Should
they choose to do so at that time, they would be prepared to
have those guidelines in place.
Councilmember Wilson
commented they have a total cost of $1.3 to $1.4 million on the
drainage costs.He asked if that excludes or includes the grant
monies.
Interim Public Works
Director/City Engineer Giao Pham stated that is the total amount
of the project, excluding the grant money.Their rough estimate
is based on $1.3 million for the storm drain, curb, sidewalk and
the whole bells and whistles.With the grants being applied,
the project would cost roughly $800,000 to $900,000.We would
put a large chunk of it down.We would do the initial
improvements.They have not done the design.They have looked
at it from a planning part of it, but when they go into the
design they will look into what is feasible out there and what
is acceptable, such as do we need storm drains or can they use
inverted roadway pavement.There are alternatives they can look
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at as far as how they want to handle the water or storm drain
out there.
Councilmember Smithson stated
he recalled the last time they discussed this that construction
had to be done within a certain time period and they could not
get all the design done so it would not work.
Interim Public Works
Director/City Engineer Giao Pham stated that is correct.
Councilmember Smithson stated
if there was a way we could make it he would vote for this over
anything else.
Interim Public Works
Director/City Engineer Giao Pham stated right now they are
tasked with getting some sort of funding.They are basing it
roughly on what was done on Plaza and what they are currently
doing on Saguaro.They have some money left over and set aside
to pave those roadways.They are trying to determine if they
have enough money to accommodate some drainage options to see if
they could do it now versus waiting it out and doing the
ultimate design and ultimate construction.
Mayor Insalaco commented if
they wait any longer there will not be any roads there to work
on.
Councilmember Smithson
agreed.
Councilmember Barker asked if
what he was saying was if they were to apply the money from this
grant to this project they would not be able to meet all the
criteria of the grant and get this plan finished, or was he
saying that they are already doing something over here that will
take care of it.
Interim Public Works
Director/City Engineer Giao Pham stated if the council decides
to go ahead with the neighborhood drainage improvements as a
priority he would hold off on paving the roadway now and save
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the $60,000 to $70,000 that they have set aside for the paving
project.They would then put it into the design configuration.
Then they would put that $56,000 and add the $300,000 to the
project, bid it out and try to get as much of those improvements
in that neighborhood as possible.They would try to phase that
in.Since they have that money set aside, they want to spend it
as soon as possible as they do not know what the budget outlook
will be for next year.
Mayor Insalaco commented he
is saying they have the money to take care of those roadways so
they will not be in such bad shape.
Interim Public Works
Director/City Engineer Giao Pham stated that is correct.They
need to keep in mind that when they pave it, it will not last as
long.
Councilmember Smithson stated
it will get ruined again as soon as we have a heavy rain.
Interim Public Works
Director/City Engineer Giao Pham stated it is basically throw
away money.
Councilmember Smithson stated
it is throw away money but it will let them know we love them
and we are trying to do something for them, but it will not last
forever.
Interim Public Works
Director/City Engineer Giao Pham stated that is correct.That
is the dilemma we are in.
Councilmember Smithson stated
he thinks they need to let the residents in that area know what
we are trying to do, why it is taking so long, and why we are
doing it.
Interim Public Works
Director/City Engineer Giao Pham stated that is why they have
gone out there with multiple departments.He has gone out there
with Bryant, Joel, and also DSD.They are talking to people
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about changing the drainage patterns out there.They have
already spent $10,000 on surveying to understand where the water
is flowing, so that when they do a storm drain or raise the
profile on the road they have a basis on what they are trying to
do from that design.We are spending bits and pieces of money
there looking into the design.Once they have the design, they
can figure out how to phase that construction.
Councilmember Smithson stated
he is still saying these grants are not a good use for that
money.He asked what they could get done if they could use the
funds within the provisions of the grant and the time limits
that we have.
Interim Public Works
Director/City Engineer Giao Pham stated they can get the design
and the majority of it done.They could complete at least 50%
of the construction needed out there.
Councilmember Smithson asked
if that would meet the requirements of the grants.
Interim Public Works
Director/City Engineer Giao Pham stated from his understanding
it would.They are eligible for Community Development Block
Grant and State Special Project funding; that is why they were
nominated by staff.
Councilmember Smithson stated
his position is as much as he would like to help the overall
city and improve the commercial area, we have a greater
. responsibility, in his opinion, to the residents of those 4
streets to do everything we can to improve the situation there.
Vice Mayor Dietz commented he
knows he has discussed bonding out for roads with the city
manager again.He asked if this would be something they could
do all at one time with bond funding.
City Manager George Hoffman
stated they could.The council would have to communicate that
policy preference.There would be a multi -million dollar road
maintenance effort.If they want that done as a part of that
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outlay, then they would have to give that direction.It would
certainly be bond eligible.
Vice Mayor Dietz asked what
be the total engineering, planning and costs involved before
they even did anything on the drainage improvement.
Interim Public Works
Director/City Engineer Giao Pham stated typically a rough
estimate is 10% of the construction costs for the design.They
are talking about $130,000 for the design.Because of the
economy, they have been able to negotiate and get it for less
than 10%; it is usually between 7% and 8%.They know that when
he works with them that he has been on the design side so he
knows how much it costs.There is no fluff.They cannot charge
for 10 meetings when we can meet on the phone or go to their
office instead of them coming here.It is partially
understanding the scope of work and the design of what we have;
they can then cut the bells and whistles.They can tell them
they do not need to meet 10 times; they can get it done in 3
meetings.They can cut the printing costs by forwarding emails.
It is being smart with our money.
Vice Mayor Dietz commented
the remaining $200,000 to $300,000 would take care of the
immediate problem on the drainage and draining of these streets.
Interim Public Works
Director/City Engineer Giao Pham stated if they could get the
$60,000 to $70,000 for a roller payment, plus the 2 grants, we
would probably still need probably $300,000 to $400,000 to get
it done.However, if they can proceed with the design, he
believes they can look at the budget to see what is workable.
He could then work with Bryant and George on the funding
mechanism to get the remaining funds for this project.
Councilmember Smithson asked
what he meant when he thought they would be halfway done with
it.The money we are talking about does not get us halfway to
$1.3 million.
Interim Public Works
Director/City Engineer Giao Pham stated when they do the initial
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concepts or rough estimates they do not know what the climate
will be when they go out to bid.They always get the latest
numbers from the City of Phoenix and the City of Chandler for
some of our recent projects.They do not understand thoroughly
where the flooding is coming from exactly.They do not know the
contributing factors, such as an upstream issue.They may be
looking at storm drains, inverted crown roadways, they may not
need the sidewalks and could just get away with curb and gutter,
and they may not need lighting right away.Those are the things
that they look at when they do design.They look at what they
need right away versus what they can live without for the time
being.The $1.2 million is the rough estimate.When they look
closely at the design, they can see if it is $800,000.As they
get nearer to the bid, they will get more detailed answers as to
what they think the anticipated cost is.It is a rough estimate
without doing the design.
Councilmember Smithson
commented he is assuming they can come up with a design that
will be less expensive, still not be throwing money away, and
give us something worthwhile for almost half of what he has been
talking about.
Interim Public Works
Director/City Engineer Giao Pham stated that is correct.
City Manager George Hoffman
stated he thought that utilization of State Special Project
monies for design was not met with favor.
Program Coordinator Heather
Patel stated the design would have to be completed before the
application was submitted for State Special Project funds.
Mayor Insalaco commented they
are back to square one.
Councilmember Barker
commented she had said that at the last meeting but she spoke
just before he spoke so it fit together.At this meeting they
were kind of disjointed.
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Councilmember Wilson asked if
they could request that they go ahead with as much of the design
ahead of time so they can get that done and accomplished.He is
looking towards the future.
City Manager George Hoffman
stated he believes they need to grapple with the overall city-
wide issue of road maintenance.The issue they are struggling
with at the staff level is quite clear that they need to make
the investment sooner rather than later in road maintenance.
The challenge is a declining revenue base from which they can
use to pay for potential bond indebtedness.It is absolutely
rational to invest the money now.The question is if they will
have the revenue to pay off the bond indebtedness.That is what
they are struggling with.He thinks it would be beneficial for
the city engineer to guide them through a discussion of this
project and a city-wide discussion for drainage purposes.It is
easy to focus on one problem and say they must fix this problem.
But, if he gave Giao $10 for every drainage problem that we have
in the city or road maintenance problem, he would go bankrupt.
They would be here for another couple of hours.
Vice Mayor Dietz commented
the longer they wait on the road maintenance, the worse the
roads are going to get.Instead of just doing an overlay, they
will have to rip out the entire road and have to lay a new 3"
with the base and everything else.
City Manager George Hoffman
stated Shane is fond of telling us that instead of $5 to $10 per
square yard they would be doing multiples of that.
Councilmember Smithson
commented they do not want a lot more streets that look like
these four.
City Manager George Hoffman
stated that is correct.
Mayor Insalaco commented they
are going to have to get on their soap box and get this out to
the public to find out what they want them to do:the roads
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turned to dirt or get fixed.They need to let them know what
the situation is.
Councilmember Barker
commented it appears to her that there is a great deal of
interest in the drainage improvements but unfortunately the plan
and design must be completed before we submit.We do not have a
plan and design and it will not be completed before that time.
We have to put that aside.They talked about the commercial
rehabilitation.Some are uncomfortable with it; others think it
is a good idea.Either way, there has to be some sort of
guidelines set aside before we can even think about doing that.
They can then put that one away.That leaves us with the
Winchester to Idaho sidewalk which she would personally like to
put away, but someone may be interested in that.There is also
the American Disability Act compliance for the Focal Point
intersection, North Apache Trail and housing rehabilitation.
She asked if we already have housing rehabilitation grants.
Program Coordinator Heather
Patel stated that is correct.
Councilmember Barker
commented we already have those grants so we need to make a
decision of where we want to send this specific money.
Councilmember Smithson
commented he has been all over the map and he would go for the
North Apache Trail improvements at this point.
Vice Mayor Dietz agreed they
should get North Apache Trail done.
Mayor Insalaco closed the
discussion with no further comments and called for a motion.
Vice Mayor Dietz MOVED THAT
RESOLUTION NO. 11-49, A RESOLUTION OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF APACHE JUNCTION, ARIZONA, AUTHORIZING THE
SUBMISSION OF APPLICATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2012 STATE COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT REGIONAL ACCOUNT ("CDBG RA"), FISCAL
YEAR 2012 STATE SPECIAL PROJECT ("SSP") FUNDS, AND CERTIFYING
THAT THE APPLICATIONS (1) MEET THE IDENTIFIED HOUSING AND
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COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT NEEDS; AND (2) IS NECESSARY FOR
IMPLEMENTATION AND COMPLETION OF THE ACTIVITIES OUTLINED IN THE
CDBG RA AND SSP APPLICATIONS, BE APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING
AMENDMENTS:THAT BOTH THE SSP AND CDBG RA PROJECTS BE SUBMITTED
FOR THE NORTH APACHE TRAIL PROJECT.
Councilmember Smithson
SECONDED THE MOTION.
VOTE: 6-1 (Councilmember Serdy voted in opposition.)
Councilmember Serdy commented he loved the project but voted no
to keep the other one alive.
Councilmember Wilson commented he agrees wholeheartedly that
they need to work on the commercial area to encourage the use of
it but he does not feel they have enough written down to
administer it.He would like to see that done as quickly as
possible so it is ready for the next time around.
The motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS
None.
NEW BUSINESS
DISCUSSION ON PUBLIC WORKS ON -CALL
SERVICES
)Senior Project Engineer
Emile Schmid briefed the council on the item.
Councilmember Smithson asked
how consistent the evaluations were.
Senior Project Engineer Emile
Schmid stated there was some consistency in the lists they had.
They would have three or four out of the five on their lists.
Only one or two were different.They knew they were all on the
same page.If they had been all over the board, he would have
worried about the consistency.
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Councilmember Smithson asked
how successful they were in getting the consultants' fee
schedules somewhat comparable.
Senior Project Engineer Emile
Schmid stated the vast majority of them are in the range of what
they feel is representative of industry.They have a few he
will call tomorrow and tell them there is nothing that justifies
those types of rates that they are proposing.They had to do
the same thing 3 years ago and it was not an issue for them to
back down.
Councilmember Barker asked
why they chose 5 in each category.
Senior Project Engineer Emile
Schmid stated it gives the flexibility to rotate among different
consultants.Sometimes they might have a consultant that is
loaded with a lot of work and the city has a task they have to
start right away.Either they cannot start it right away or
their initial fee comes in too high.It gives the city an
opportunity to move to another consultant.Also, in the general
civil engineering category, they would ideally like to find
consultants that can do everything - road, water, sewer, storm
drain, hydrology, hydraulic and storm water management.Some of
the firms may specialize in two or three of the areas and other
firms may specialize in other areas.Between those five, they
want to make sure they have all possible areas of design
covered.They feel that they do with the consultants that they
have.The last go round they had three, this go round they have
five.
Councilmember Barker asked if
they used all the consultants that they had on their list the
last time.
Senior Project Engineer Emile
Schmid stated they used the majority of them.They only had
four service areas last time and they used all but one service
area last time.The area they did not use was environmental and
archeological.They used the general civil engineering and
right-of-way services quite a bit, and they used one of their
architects and planning.
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Councilmember Barker
commented that is a lot of total money in these contracts.
Senior Project Engineer Emile
Schmid stated the purpose of these on -call consultants is so
that we can improve our responsiveness and completion of the
various tasks that we do.It provides flexibility to rotate
tasks among different consultants.The big thing for us is to
minimize delays with individual contracts.Under the on -call
contract umbrella, if a task comes along they can assign it
right away to one of the on call consultants instead of coming
back with individual contracts for each job.
Councilmember Serdy commented
this is what is partly wrong with government.It would be nice
if we could do more of this in house.They could hire staff for
this price.
Councilmember Barker
commented it is heavy when you add them all up.When you look
at each contract, each general civil engineering is no more than
$300,000 and the rest of them are no more than $100,000.You
have got 20 contracts for no more than $100,000 and five for
$300,000.It is a lot of money.
Interim Public Works
Director/City Engineer Giao Pham stated when he and Shane go
through the budget, there is actually only $300,000 to $400,000
for the next fiscal year.The reason why they have these
contracts to $300,000 is just in case we get a windfall of
federal money or Arizona Department of Transportation money.If
a firm works on a $300,000 design, that eats up their contract
for the entire year.It gives us flexibility to where they can
handle that task by themselves and we do not have to break it
up.He asked them not to look at the contracts and think they
are going to spend one million or two million.We do not have
that much money in our budget as far as possible.There is
$300,000 to $400,000 total to spend among the five service areas
and the five different consultants.The reason why they are
broken up into those lists is because of federal requirements.
Environments are a big deal.Survey and geotechnical are used
in the federal process for right-of-way clearance.They are
anticipating that if they get federal projects, they want to
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have these guys on call so that way they can start work right
away.
Councilmember Barker
commented when you give a great, big book with all the contracts
in them, we read them.And then we add all that up.
Interim Public Works
Director/City Engineer Giao Pham stated he wished they had that
problem of spending that much money, but we just do not have
that much money.
Senior Project Engineer Emile
Schmid showed the council a slide summarizing the contract
limits per consultant per year.These agreements will allow us
to work at it, but it does not necessarily mean they will spend
that amount each year.The terms of each contract are for one
year and they will be renewed annually for an additional two
years for a total of three years.They will be renewed
administratively within our department.
Councilmember Wilson
commented they did not use the archeological last time.He
asked if they would be spending the $100,000 only if they are
used.
Senior Project Engineer Emile
Schmid stated it is only spent if they are used.
Councilmember Coleman asked
what the total amount is that they have in the budget.
$300,000.
commented that is total.
that is one civil engineering firm.
Mayor Insalaco stated it is
Councilmember Coleman
Councilmember Barker stated
City Manager George Hoffman
stated Councilmember Serdy raised a good point in questioning
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why they cannot do it in house.We have also heard loud and
clear that there are times to privatize services.We privatize
a great many services.It is a continual process of determining
when it is best privatized and when to seek to do it with in
house services.Some of the things they are looking at are very
narrow, specialized niche services.They did not use
environmental last year.They would not want to retain that
capacity on staff nor could we necessarily get all the sudden
niches within that by having a staff person available as a
resource to do that.It is a very good and legitimate policy
question and it is one we are continually assessing.In many
instances they have found that it is more frugal and effective
to privatize the services.An example is the janitorial
services that used to be provided by in house staff; we are able
to do it more cost effectively by going out of house.There is
also landscaping and a variety of those things.Another area is
partnering with other organizations.He passed them something a
while back where Queen Creek was looking to partner with Gilbert
for an in house function.
Senior Project Engineer Emile
Schmid finished his briefing with a slide showing the five
categories and the five consulting firms in each category.
This was a discussion item
only with no action to be taken at this time.Mayor Insalaco
closed the discussion with no further comments and called for a
five minute break.
Mayor Insalaco reconvened the
meeting.
DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE
AGREEMENT (CONTRACT NO. R016-10-01)
WITH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OF
ENERGY POLICY
)Public Works Manager Shane
Kiesow briefed the council on the item.
This was a discussion item
only with no action to be taken at this time.Mayor Insalaco
closed the discussion with no further comments and moved on to
the next item.
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AGREEMENT WITH ARIZONA REPUBLIC FOR
LEGAL ADVERTISING FOR 2012
)City Clerk Kathleen
Connelly briefed the council on the item.
Mayor Insalaco called for a
motion.
Councilmember Barker MOVED
THAT THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE ARIZONA REPUBLIC AND THE CITY OF
APACHE JUNCTION FOR LEGAL ADVERTISING FOR 2012 IN THE AMOUNT OF
33 CENTS PER LINE PER DAY IN THE MESA REPUBLIC, 25 CENTS PER
LINE PER DAY IN THE ARIZONA BUSINESS GAZETTE, AND 80 CENTS PER
LINE PER DAY IN THE ARIZONA REPUBLIC FOR THE TERM OF JANUARY 1,
2012 THROUGH DECEMBER 31, 2012, BE APPROVED, AND THAT
AUTHORIZATION BE GIVEN FOR THE MAYOR TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT.
Vice Mayor Dietz SECONDED THE
MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
During the vote, Councilmember Coleman commented more and more
of the newspapers are going to where they do not have
subscribers.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly stated more than once several
organizations, including the municipal clerks' organization,
have worked with the League to have legislation introduced that
would allow these types of legal notices to be posted online.
So far it has not been successful.The legislation will be
reintroduced again this session.
The motion carried.
COUNCIL DIRECTION TO STAFF
MEDIAN ENHANCEMENT PUBLIC ART
COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THE
MEDIAN ENHANCEMENT PROJECT
PEDESTALS ON OLD WEST HIGHWAY
)Business Advocate Janine
Solley briefed the council on the item.
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Councilmember Coleman asked
if a dedicated funding source would be something like the bed
tax used to build stadiums.
Business Advocate Janine
Solley stated they can bring different options to the council at
a future date and structure that however they like.
Councilmember Coleman asked
if it would be something like 1% of the city's budget.
Business Advocate Janine
Solley stated it would not.A lot of cities might do a
percentage for public art from new construction projects.There
might be a percentage for public art from public improvement
projects.She can bring all of those options back to them.
That is something that is long term for the future.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
commented after the presentation on December 5 she pointed out
to Janine that perhaps the solicitation for the artwork did not
meet city code.She did not know if she had the chance to talk
to the city attorney about that.
Business Advocate Janine
Solley stated this is the first she has heard of that.She
asked if it was regarding the professional services agreement.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated that is correct.
Business Advocate Janine
Solley stated it was a sample professional services agreement
that was in the packet.It was a sample only that had a couple
of modifications in it.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated there were some sections referenced in there that from
her understanding of the process to solicit this artwork would
not be consistent with the city code.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated he does not remember which provisions.Typically we have
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professional services agreements with standard provisions.He
does not know if there were any clerical issues but we can take
a look at it.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated her suggestion is rather than go ahead and do it they
should actually confirm that it met the requirements.
Councilmember Barker
commented that would be the immediate term.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated it should be a very simple one to check on.
Councilmember Barker
commented when they saw the presentation by Mr. Coplin the price
tag appeared to be pretty steep.She asked if they made any
decisions on how that might be paid.In her presentation she
understood her to say that a short term goal might be to
research possible funding for future projects.She asked if it
is also for this one.
Business Advocate Janine
Solley stated his projects are estimated to be about $10,000 per
piece.Our grant from Fort McDowell is $2,000 and we had
anticipated utilizing some funding for downtown projects for the
remainder of the first piece.There are 3 pedestals.If they
want staff to look at pedestals 2 and 3, we need to explore some
other funding avenues.
Assistant City Manager Bryant
Powell stated we had planned for $10,000 in the budget, thinking
they could do all three.
Councilmember Barker
commented that clarifies it.
Assistant City Manager Bryant
Powell stated we can get started.
Councilmember Barker
commented we already have enough budgeted for the one piece.
commented that clarifies it.
Powell stated we can get started.
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Assistant City Manager Bryant
Powell stated that is correct.Last April/May we thought
$10,000 would be enough.
Mayor Insalaco closed the
discussion with no further comments and called for a motion.
City Manager George Hoffman
commented this is the first he has heard of Kathy's question on
this matter.He suggested they not ask for a motion right now.
They need to go back and make sure everything is correct and
then they can come back to the council with it.He asked if
that is what she is encouraging.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated her only concern is with the procurement process.Rather
than have the council do an agreement, she believes it will be
better if they researched it.
Councilmember Barker
commented the short and long term goals would not be complicated
by the researching for art grants and that kind of thing.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated they can check into that.He does not think it is a
problem.
Business Advocate Janine
Solley asked if this is a minor technicality and should she move
forward on the other item.
Councilmember Barker
commented she is not comfortable with that.They would first
want her to research the compliance with city code for the
procurement process and then go forward with the short and long
term.If we find the process was alright, or if they have to
change it in anyway, they can come back and formalize the
contract with him at that point.
City Attorney Joel Stern
asked if there would be time issues if they wait two weeks.
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Business Advocate Janine
Solley commented she had asked Roger if they have to spend the
grant money within a certain period of time and he said they are
flexible with that if we can give them an explanation.The
artist still needs to do some finalizing on the design and
things like that would be reasons for them to give us extra
time.
Councilmember Barker asked if
two weeks would be okay.
Business Advocate Janine
Solley stated two weeks would be okay.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated he believed the motion could go in two weeks.
Councilmember Barker MOVED
THAT THIS ITEM BE RETURNED IN TWO WEEKS.
Councilmember Coleman
SECONDED THE MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
DISABLED PARKING SANCTIONS
briefed the council on the item.
)City Attorney Joel Stern
Mayor Insalaco commented the
change would cover the cost of the officer and expenses.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated it does.He has prosecuted these cases in the past where
you start seeing a pattern of individuals who have the same
excuse.That is a concern but he believes they can keep track
of that.These are civil violations, not criminal.
Councilmember Barker asked if
he was considering that to be the top sanction.There are 3
sanctions here.
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City Attorney Joel Stern
stated that is correct.The first one is $300 if it is paid
within 7 calendar days.
Councilmember Barker stated
that is 1238.There is also 1257 here.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated 1257 is where the text would go to reduce the amount.It
would be reference to a reduction in that amount in that
section, or it could be a new section.
Councilmember Barker
commented he is just adding that 1257.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated that is correct.
Councilmember Barker asked if
he was adding 1257 and getting rid of 1238.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated he would not get rid of it.He would reference it with
an asterisk or something to look at this note.There is not
discretion for the judge to reduce that amount.We can create
something that does that in 1257.The direction would for his
office to come back with an ordinance that changes that.
Councilmember Barker stated
he can do some wording right now.
City Attorney Joel Stern
commented he would rather not do that as he would like to meet
with the judge to get the exact wording on how he would like to
see it for future cases.
Councilmember Barker
commented he is basically asking for direction to go to the
judge to get wording for this.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated he is asking for direction from the city council to come
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back with an ordinance that accomplishes the discretion to be
allowed.
Councilmember Coleman
commented he thought the judge always had to have discretion.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated in city code cases, in 12-5-7, it states the sanctions
listed in the following schedule are the minimum of sanctions
that may be imposed for violations of the article of the city
code listed therein.That means there is no discretion for the
judge.It is the minimum that has to be charged for that
violation.
Councilmember Coleman asked
if he had discretion to charge more than that.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated he could.
Councilmember Coleman
commented he is asking if the law requires the judge to have
some sort of discretion.The legislative body cannot dictate
what the judge can do.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated not necessarily.Sometimes the legislature, as with
felonies and drug cases, state the person shall serve so many
years.The judge cannot go down any further.There are
mandatory sentencing provisions.This should clean that up.
Councilmember Smithson asked
if these are all of the parking violations.He asked if it is
illegal to park on the wrong side of the street.
stated it is.
he did not see it here.
just for handicapped parking.
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City Attorney Joel Stern
Councilmember Smithson stated
Mayor Insalaco stated this is
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated the schedule covers some of the violations.If they look
at the last sentence, Joel read the first part and the second
part says any person violating the provisions of this code other
than those specified in the following schedule, shall be liable
for the imposition of a civil sanction not to exceed $250, which
goes to the judge's discretion.There could be others scattered
in the code.
Mayor Insalaco closed the
discussion with no further comments and called for a motion.
Councilmember Barker MOVED
THAT STAFF BE GIVEN THE FOLLOWING DIRECTION REGARDING DISABLED
PARKING SANCTIONS:TO COME BACK WITH AN ORDINANCE WHICH WILL
GIVE THE JUDGE DISCRETION IN THIS AREA.
Councilmember Smithson
SECONDED THE MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
CREATING POLITICAL SIGN -FREE ZONES
IN THE CITY
briefed the council on the item.
City Attorney Joel Stern
Mayor Insalaco commented they
have the Focal Point and the new sign that will be landscaped.
He does not want to see 8' by 4' political signs covering up
that new sign and distracting from the beauty of the downtown.
This is basically a certain zone in the city that we will be
doing this in.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated if that is the council's desire.
Councilmember Serdy commented
there can be other areas, such as the gazebo.
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Mayor Insalaco stated that is
correct.This is for three square miles.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated that is correct.They could have two zones in the city
if they desire.They would also have to amend the sign code.
This would be two parts: a resolution that would declare the
zone, and an ordinance to change the sign code to meet the
requirements of this statute.
Councilmember Barker stated
the more she reads Section F of this, the more she thinks we do
not need it.We need the last part of it, but not the first.
City Attorney Joel Stern
commented assistance from Janine Solley would also be helpful as
she is with the economic development department.That might
shed more light on that.
Councilmember Barker asked
what kind of direction to staff could be given to research the
areas in the community that this could possibly apply to.
City Attorney Joel Stern
asked if she meant those that would be candidates for certain
areas that they might want to set aside for sign -free zones.
Councilmember Barker stated
that is correct.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated they can do a direction on that.They would not have to
come back with an ordinance right now.
Councilmember Barker asked if
it needed to be site specific at this point because she would
like some input as to how well we answer this particular piece
of legislation in those areas.She could see we could
definitely answer it in the future, but she does not quite know
that we do now.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated there could be direction to staff that requests
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recommendation from the different departments.He believes it
was the planning department in Scottsdale that came up with the
recommendation on what particular zone and what area should be
covered.He believes he saw that paperwork when he looked at it
online.They need to keep in mind that state highways or state
routes are specifically excluded from this statute, which is
anything along Idaho Road up to the cutoff to the lake, if it is
within the Idaho right-of-way.
Mayor Insalaco commented if
the State wants to take the signs down, they can do so.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated it is their right-of-way.They can take them down
anytime they want and they do not have to inform anybody.There
is a requirement here that if you do take them down you have to
give notice to the candidate or the group that is putting out
the signs for initiative or referendum.
Councilmember Serdy asked how
big the right-of-way is on Idaho.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated he would guess 300', but he might be mistaken.It might
vary depending on where you are.
Councilmember Serdy asked if
that is from the center.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated that is 300' total.He asked the city engineer if that
is correct.
There was general discussion
between the city attorney and the interim public works
director/city engineer and it was estimated at 150 feet.
Mayor Insalaco closed the
discussion with no further comments and called for a motion.
Councilmember Barker MOVED
THAT STAFF BE GIVEN THE FOLLOWING DIRECTION REGARDING CREATING
POLITICAL SIGN -FREE ZONES IN THE CITY:THAT STAFF GATHER
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RECOMMENDATIONS FROM VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS WHICH WOULD BE AFFECTED
BY THIS FOR POSSIBLE AREAS THAT COULD MEET THE STATE LAW FOR
SIGN -FREE.
Councilmember Wilson SECONDED
THE MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
SELECTION OF MEETING DATES, TIMES, LOCATIONS, AND PURPOSES
Vice Mayor Dietz stated the
executive session and work session on Monday, January 16, 2012
has been cancelled due to the Martin Luther King Holiday.He
MOVED THAT AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 5:45 P.M. AND A WORK SESSION
AT 7:00 P.M. BE HELD ON TUESDAY, JANUARY 17, 2012, IN THE CITY
COUNCIL CONFERENCE ROOM AND CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, RESPECTIVELY.
Councilmember Barker SECONDED
THE MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
CALL TO THE PUBLIC:
Mr. John Draper, 9710 E. Obispo Avenue, Mesa, addressed the
council on behalf of the Apache Junction Mounted Rangers to show
them the Arizona Centennial Buckle raffle project to be raffled
off at Lost Dutchman Days and ask for assistance in promoting
it.
Mr. Slade Gallagher, 1428 S. Valley Drive, Apache Junction,
addressed the council to propose the council waive a 2.5% tax on
new and used vehicles purchased by severely disabled veterans.
Mr. Elliott Fisher, 547 E. Quail, Apache Junction, addressed the
council regarding his disappointment in their putting the grant
money into the commercial projects and a freedom of speech issue
with the sign -free zones.
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Councilmember Wilson asked why there was a motion for a work
session at the next Tuesday meeting.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly stated we always do that just in
case there is a need for a work session prior to the Tuesday
meeting.We do not have the Monday meeting, so we cover
ourselves by having the motion for Tuesday.
Councilmember Coleman commented he does not believe that Mr.
Serdy knew how he was going to vote, he believes he was just
guessing by the evening's discussion.If Mr. Fisher is making
any kind of accusation, he is wrong.
Mayor Insalaco commented this is not just for local politicians.
There are national elections coming up.It is for all
elections.
ADJOURNMENT )
)Mayor Insalaco adjourned
the meeting at 9:18 p.m.
Consent Agenda Items are as follows:
1. Acceptance of Agenda.
2. Approval of Minutes of Regular Meeting of December 6, 2011.
3. Consideration of Resolution No. 11-53, retroactively
authorizing the City of Apache Junction to enter into a
performance contract and related financial agreement with
Siemens Industry, Inc.
4. Ratification of Appointment of New Library Director by City
Manager pursuant to Apache Junction City Code Section 3-11-
1(B).
ACCEPTED THIS 17TH DAY OF JANUARY, 2012, BY THE MAYOR AND CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF APACHE JUNCTION, ARIZONA.
SIGNED AND ATTESTED TO THIS 17TH DAY OF JANUARY, 2012.
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ATTEST:
KATHLEEN CONNELLY
City Clerk
HN S. INSALACO
Mayor
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and
correct copy of the minutes of the regular meeting of the City
Council of the City of Apache Junction, Arizona, held on the 3rd
day of January, 2012.I further certify that the meeting was
duly called and held and that a quorum was present.
Dated this 10th day of January, 2012.
KATHLEEN CONNELLY
City Clerk
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