HomeMy WebLinkAbout2008-04-15 City Council Regular MinutesCITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING
APRIL 15, 2008
The regular meeting of the City Council of the City of
Apache Junction, Arizona, was held on April 15, 2008, at the
Apache Junction City Council Chambers pursuant to the notice
required by law.
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Insalaco called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
INVOCATION
Vice Mayor Eck gave the Invocation.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Councilmember Wilson led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
Councilmembers Present:Mayor Insalaco
Vice Mayor Eck
Councilmember Barker
Councilmember Dietz
Councilmember Serdy
Councilmember Severs
Councilmember Wilson
Staff Present:
Others Present:
City Manager George Hoffman
Assistant City Manager Bryant Powell
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
City Attorney Joel Stern
Interim Public Safety Dir. Tom Kelly
City Engineer Giao Pham
Public Works Director David Fern
Planning Manager Fred Baker
Community Relations Manager Pat Brenner
Sergeant Teresa Rodgers
Animal Control Officer Debbie Sullivan
Assistant City Attorney Mary Ann Coyne
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ACCEPTANCE OF CONSENT AGENDA
)Vice Mayor Eck MOVED THAT
THE CONSENT AGENDA BE ACCEPTED AS PRESENTED; AND
THAT APPROVAL BE GIVEN FOR THE SILLY MOUNTAIN MASTER PLAN; AND
THAT RESOLUTION NO. 08-10, A RESOLUTION OF THE MAYOR AND CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF APACHE JUNCTION, ARIZONA, AUTHORIZING THE
CITY TO ENTER INTO AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE
STATE OF ARIZONA AND A NON -PROGRAM CITY BE APPROVED; AND
THAT THE AWARD OF BID FOR PROJECT NO. PW-2008-03, EQUIPMENT AND
LABOR TO CRUSH RECYCLED ASPHALT CONCRETE, BE AWARDED TO J G
PERRIGO, LLC IN THE TOTAL AMOUNTS OF $4,500 FOR MOBILIZATION,
CRUSHING UP TO 6,000 TONS OF ASPHALT CONCRETE AT $4.14 PER TON,
6,001 TO 12,000 TONS AT $3.96 PER TON, 12,001 TO 18,000 TONS AT
$3.78 PER TON AND 18,001+ TONS AT $3.60 PER TON; AND THAT
AUTHORIZATION BE GIVEN TO THE MAYOR TO SIGN THE CONTRACT PENDING
FINAL APPROVAL AS TO FORM BY THE CITY ATTORNEY; AND
THAT THE AWARD OF BID FOR PROJECT NO. PW-2008-05, SLURRY SEAL
PROJECTS IN THE ARROYO VERDE, SUNRISE SHADOW AND IRONWOOD COVE
SUBDIVISIONS, BE AWARDED TO ACE ASPHALT THROUGH MOHAVE
EDUCATIONAL SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $120,000 PLUS 10%
CONTINGENCY IN THE AMOUNT OF $12,000, FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO
EXCEED $132,000; AND THAT AUTHORIZATION BE GIVEN FOR THE MAYOR
TO SIGN THE CONTRACT PENDING FINAL APPROVAL AS TO FORM BY THE
CITY ATTORNEY.
Councilmember Barker SECONDED
THE MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
AWARDS, PRESENTATIONS AND COMMUNICATIONS
Community Relations Manager Pat Brenner introduced Steven
Amrhein from the Indian Summer Neighborhood Association.
Glenn Frederickson from the Arizona Early Day Gas Engine and
Tractor Association presented a check in the amount of $1,800 to
Mayor Insalaco for the parks department scholarship fund.
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Marta Saint James, president of Canine Companion and Dog Group,
and Billie Bishop, Pinal County Adult Probation and a volunteer
with the group, presented a check in the amount of $771 to Mayor
Insalaco from a fundraiser to purchase a bulletproof vest for
the police department canine.
CALL TO THE PUBLIC:
Mr. John Kantowski, 835 W. Windsong, Apache Junction, addressed
the council to thank them for appointing him to the planning and
zoning commission and parks and recreation commission but he
must resign due to health reasons, and spoke in support of A-
frame signs for city businesses.
Mr. Noel Benoist, 900 N. San Marcos #35, Apache Junction,
addressed the council regarding keeping Call to the Public at
the front of the meeting.
Mr. Jimmy Eidson, 1309 W. 15th Avenue, Apache Junction,
addressed the council to thank them for the multi -generational
center, spoke regarding a flawed police officer and asked the
council to direct the city attorney to follow the judge's lead
and dismiss all charges against his grandson or wait until the
case is thoroughly investigated.
Mr. Steve White, 105 N. Delaware, Apache Junction, addressed the
council regarding remarks allegedly made by Councilmember Wilson
at the April 14 work session about the San Francisco area.
Ms. Tess Nesser, 1511 S. Cactus, Apache Junction, addressed the
council regarding the Apache Junction Cancer Society Relay for
Life Walkathon on Sunday, April 26, and demonstrated for the
audience the new Playaway books available at the library.
Mrs. Shannon Flynn, 305 N. Acacia, Apache Junction, addressed
the council regarding an article in the AJ News and her being
requested to get a business license.
Ms. Christa Rizzi, 1255 S. Sombrero, Apache Junction, addressed
the council to advise she had told the school district of
possible problems at the track with others using the track
during school hours but they will apparently do nothing about
it; she would like to see everyone be fingerprinted and carry
identification that would use the track.
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Mr. Jim Stephens, 3700 S. Tomahawk Drive #156, Apache Junction,
addressed the council regarding business licenses and spoke in
support of Shannon Flynn.
Mr. Justin Agudio, 1635 S. Winchester #4, Apache Junction,
addressed the council regarding complaints against Randy Eckert
and alleging that Councilmember Serdy is selling cats out of his
home without a business license.
Mr. Steve Flynn, 305 N. Acacia, Apache Junction, addressed the
council regarding a complaint against a business license
employee.
Mr. Don Schaefer, 10198 E. Rugged Mountain Drive, Peralta
Trails, Gold Canyon, addressed the council to thank them for
approving the Silly Mountain Park Plan.
Ms. Glenda Serdy, 1425 S. Coconino, Apache Junction, addressed
the council regarding a letter she received from the city
attorney and the color of the law statute.
Mr. Charles Bunten, 1680 N. Starr Road, Apache Junction,
addressed the council regarding freedom of speech not being
absolute.
Mr. Mike Lewis, 4681 N. San Marcos Drive, Apache Junction,
addressed the council regarding the AJ News article on Shannon
Flynn being disturbing to him, deprivation of rights and then
spoke in support of artists' rights.
Mr. Emory Caudill, 39216 N. Kelley Circle, Queen Creek,
addressed the council to sing in support of artists' rights.
Mr. Gary Boland, 3700 S. Tomahawk, Apache Junction, addressed
the council regarding the Apache Bravo Young Marines and their
accomplishments and advised they would be available to assist at
local events.
Councilmember Serdy commented he was the one who spoke about San
Francisco, not Councilmember Wilson, he apologized and stated
that he was thinking of campus controversy when he spoke; that
A -frame signs can be secured with an I -bolt in the pavement;
that he would stay out of the treatment of his son; and that his
cat business was in Maricopa County, not the city, he has a
license there and he advised how he found homes for his kittens.
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Councilmember Barker requested they get a card from the Young
Marines in case they are needed for local events; it would be
nice to integrate the young people in.
Councilmember Severs commented he believes the A -frame sign
issue is important and anything they can do to help businesses
they need to do, that he hopes the school track issue will be
taken seriously by the school board and they will resolve the
problem, and that the words to the song were wonderful.
Councilmember Dietz requested staff contact the school and let
them know our concern that it is not appropriate during school
hours.
Vice Mayor Eck commented it was Councilmember Serdy who made the
comments about San Francisco last night because there is no
recruiting office there; that they are not going to move Call to
the Public and the rumor may have started between one or two
councilmembers who were discussing it but he has not heard that
it is being changed; if they changed the time allowed to 5
minutes from 3 minutes they would have a two hour Call to the
Public; that Jim Stephens appears to be accusing a councilmember
of advising staff about Shannon Flynn and he does not believe
that as any time you run for office you put yourself in the
public eye and become a target; that his comments about staff
should not be following up on businesses as it is a waste of
time was amazing since Stephens and Flynn are wasting thousands
of hours on public records requests that from what he sees do
not mean anything; that they need monument signs on the freeway,
not A -frames; that he does not believe the city has any
authority to enforce anything on the school track although it is
a matter for concern, and if the city has no authority he would
like to see a letter of concern written to the school district
about the citizens' concern about track usage, especially during
school hours; that the council does not decide on charges on
Kyle Serdy, that a third party, namely the Arizona Department of
Public Safety, he believes, is doing an investigation; and that
he was once a member of Junior Reserve Officer Training Corps
and he got a third overall in the nation.
Mayor Insalaco called for a ten minute break.
Mayor Insalaco reconvened the meeting.
ANNOUNCEMENT OF CURRENT EVENTS
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Councilmember Wilson announced he and his wife attended a large
animal rescue class.They will have another class in the fall
and he would like someone from the police department or animal
control to attend.He would also like this information passed
on to the fire district.
Councilmember Serdy announced that Chamber of Commerce flyers
will be going out in the local newspapers next week regarding
donations to Centennial Park downtown.Once they get the cement
they will move forward with the next phase.
Vice Mayor Eck announced that the Bryant Powell Bureaucrats are
going to take on Jeff Bell's Bombers in a softball benefit in
two weeks at Prospector Park at 5:30 p.m.
Mayor Insalaco announced on Saturday, April 5, he attended 2
more of the dedications for Habitat for Humanity.The board of
directors were there and they praised the city as the only one
that has come forward to do a whole subdivision and they have
never worked as well with a city as they have with Apache
Junction.
Vice Mayor Eck commented the Habitat for Humanity community is
in his neighborhood and it is great.However, there was a big
rig loaded with copper that was parked there and they will have
to address that issue soon.
CITY MANAGER'S REPORT
None.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
APPLICATION FOR A NEW LICENSE,
CORPORATION, BEER AND WINE LICENSE
FOR QUIKTRIP #436
)City Clerk Kathleen
Connelly briefed the council on the item.In March QuikTrip
filed an application with the Department of Liquor Licenses and
Control for a site that they were interested in on South
Ironwood.As required by law a notice was posted on the
property giving interested parties a 20 -day time frame in which
to file protests or letters of support.That time frame ended
on April 10.They have been provided copies of various
petitions and letters of protest.They have also been provided
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a letter from QuikTrip dated April 11, 2008, in which they are
withdrawing their application for the liquor license.The city
attorney has some advice on how to proceed with this.This is a
public hearing and she feels we are obligated to give some kind
of response to liquor control.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated it is a public hearing and he suggested they open it to
the public for any comment, then close the comment section, have
a discussion if they want, but any motion should include a
reference to the withdrawal letter and that the minutes of this
meeting get sent to the Department of Liquor.
Mayor Insalaco opened the
public hearing on the item.
Ms. Tess Nesser, 1511 S.
Cactus Road, Apache Junction, addressed the council.She did
not know what the letter of withdrawal said and she does not
think their request should be denied any more than they would
deny any other business.
City Attorney Joel Stern
suggested the mayor read the letter into the record.
Mayor Insalaco read "To whom
it may concern, QuikTrip, please accept this letter as a formal
request to withdraw our liquor application for the city council
review on April 14, 2008.If you have any questions regarding
this matter, please feel free to contact us."
Mr. Matt Miller, 11335 E.
Stern Avenue, Mesa, representing QuikTrip, addressed the
council.He advised when they put the property under contract
it was zoned C-3/PD, which they thought was zoned correctly for
their use.They did not realize they would have that much
opposition.When they applied for the liquor license, it was
their understanding there should not be an issue with the
zoning.Since then they have learned at a neighborhood meeting
that a lot of people are opposed to this.They believe it is in
their best interest to pull the application for now and go to
the neighborhood.He spent all day today knocking on doors and
talking to neighbors to let them know what they are going to do.
He was trying to get support from them; he got 25 letters today
from residents that live directly behind the site saying they
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would not mind the QuikTrip being there.They feel that until
they have a chance to talk to the neighbors behind the site that
they should pull that and get some support first before they
proceed with that site.
Mr. Mike Weller, 471 W. 21st
Avenue, Apache Junction, addressed the council.He stated from
where he believes this site is, it would directly affect 3700 S.
Ironwood.He asked if he was correct in that assumption.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated he was.
Mr. Mike Weller commented a
lot of the people in that mobile home park have threatened the
city with legal action; it seems hypocritical that the council
acquiesce to them.
Mayor Insalaco closed the
public hearing with no further comments.He reopened the item
to council discussion.
Councilmember Severs stated
they have 254 signatures from people who live in that
development behind them requesting the city not allow this
convenience store and gas station to go into this neighborhood.
He finds that discouraging.He is always fighting for
businesses and whatever they can do to bring businesses and tax
dollars into the community.He asked if those people would be
happy when they do not have the money to fix the roads or the
police protection when they call.They need to stop and think
about what a business means to our community.There is also
free enterprise.These people have a right to open a business
there.People need to really stop and think before they try to
stop something from coming here that we desperately need.He
thinks it is good for QuikTrip to go out and get support for it.
Even if they do not get the support, it is a great station and
he hopes that they are there..
ViceMayor Eck commented he
was concerned that the people do not know what that property was
zoned for.There was supposed to be a motel with a shopping
center.That never panned out.He asked if they have any idea
how many vehicles come and go on Ironwood daily.
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City Engineer Giao Pham
stated a rough estimate would be 25,000 to 35,000.
Vice Mayor Eck commented
probably only 5 of those are residents of the city.If they are
going to try to stop and get any type of retail out of these
people it will be the service station because he does not
believe it will put the Shell station out of business.As long
as their prices are competitive, both stations will be packed.
The nearest station going south is 10 miles at Ocotillo.There
are no other services for gasoline or diesel.He asked how the
city taxes fuel.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated the city is not allowed to tax fuel.
Councilmember Severs
commented the city would benefit from the convenience store
portion of it.
Vice Mayor Eck commented they
would, but the main dollars are in fuel.
Councilmember Severs
commented that is true but QuikTrip usually generates twice the
amount of regular convenience stores in tax dollars revenue.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated that remains to be seen for Apache Junction.
Vice Mayor Eck agreed that
they do not know that.He thought they might get the 2.2% on
the fuel.
Councilmember Serdy commented
since QuikTrip is open 24 hours it would service all the people
that the other station does not.A lot of those 25,000 cars
could be going to night shift so there would be convenience for
those people also and the city would not be getting that revenue
otherwise.
Vice Mayor Eck commented he
likes that the developer is trying to get some buy in from the
local community.It is a tremendous effort.The more effort he
puts there will make it easier on the council.
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Councilmember Severs asked
them not give up on the community as they are needed.
Councilmember Barker asked
what the process is now that QuikTrip has withdrawn their
application at this point in time in order to meet with the
public and get some buy in.She asked what the city's options.
are.
City Attorney Joel Stern
commented the options would be to do nothing or to make a motion
acknowledging the receipt of the letter and the withdrawal and
that a copy of the minutes of this meeting go to the Arizona
Department of Liquor.
Councilmember Severs asked
why a copy of the minutes should go to the state liquor board
saying that this applicant has withdrawn his application for
now.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated because they should acknowledge that it was withdrawn.
If for some reason the department does not get that
notification, they will wonder what Apache Junction did with it.
Mayor Insalaco commented they
have to get some kind of notification.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated it has been filed with the state.
Mayor Insalaco closed the
discussion and called for a motion.
Councilmember Barker MOVED
THAT THE APPLICATION FOR A NEW LICENSE, CORPORATION, BEER AND
WINE LIQUOR LICENSE FOR QUIKTRIP #436 BE WITHDRAWN PER THEIR
LETTER WITH A COPY OF THE MINUTES OF THIS MEETING GOING TO THE
ARIZONA LIQUOR BOARD.
Councilmember Wilson SECONDED
THE MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
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The motion carried.
RESOLUTION NO. 08-08, GENERALLY
APPROVING REGIONALLY SIGNIFICANT
ROUTES FOR SAFETY AND MOBILITY;
REJECTING THE ACCESS MANAGEMENT
GUIDELINES; AND RETAINING GENERAL
AND PLANNING AUTHORITY FOR ACCESS
MANAGEMENT ON CITY STREETS
)City Engineer Giao Pham
briefed the council on the item.
Mayor Insalaco opened the
public hearing on the item.There being no one wishing to
speak, he closed the public hearing and reopened the item to
council discussion.There being no discussion, he called for a
motion.
Vice Mayor Eck MOVED THAT
RESOLUTION NO. 08-08, A RESOLUTION OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF APACHE JUNCTION, ARIZONA, GENERALLY APPROVING
DESIGNATION OF REGIONALLY SIGNIFICANT ROUTES IN PINAL COUNTY
CONTAINED IN PINAL COUNTY'S REGIONALLY SIGNIFICANT ROUTES FOR
SAFETY AND MOBILITY PLAN; REJECTING ACCESS MANAGEMENT
GUIDELINES; AND RETAINING GENERAL AND PLANNING AUTHORITY TO
REGULATE ACCESS MANAGEMENT ON STREETS AND ROADS LOCATED WITHIN
THE CITY OF APACHE JUNCTION, BE APPROVED.
Councilmember Dietz SECONDED
THE MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
RESOLUTION NO. 07-46, DECLARING
NEW CHAPTER 6 ANIMALS A PUBLIC
RECORD/ORDINANCE NO. 1310,
REPEALING CURRENT CHAPTER 6 ANIMALS
IN ITS ENTIRETY AND ADOPTING BY
REFERENCE NEW CHAPTER 6 ANIMALS/
ORDINANCE NO. 1311, AMENDING
CHAPTER 4 FEES BY AMENDING ARTICLE
4-3 ANIMAL CONTROL FEE SCHEDULE
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)City Attorney Joel Stern
briefed the council on the item.
Vice Mayor Eck asked him to
go over the major changes in the ordinance.
City Attorney Joel Stern went
through the major changes and the changes from last night at the
work session.
Councilmember Barker
commented one thing brought up last night dealt with rescuing
animals, not just service animals.People are asked to take in
rescued animals for 2 to 3 months.She did not see that
particular thing covered.It was brought up last night by
Councilmember Dietz.
Councilmember Dietz commented
he thinks it is covered on page 9 under Roman numeral 5 (d).
Councilmember Barker asked
about the number of days.
Vice Mayor Eck stated it says
30 days.
Councilmember Dietz commented
it says 30 days but it can be extended out no more than 6
months, allowing a person that is rescuing, helping or
retraining up to 6 months in going over their limit of dogs.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated staff did hear it was to be 6 months.
Councilmember Dietz stated
they could get a 30 day extension up to 6 months.
Councilmember Barker
commented he is saying that if the council decided that they did
not want to continue inspections, that if there were no
complaints within that period no inspection of premises would be
required to renew a license.That would be a policy decision on
the council's part.
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City Attorney Joel Stern
stated that is correct.It could be an automatic renewal,
however they want to do it.
Councilmember Barker
commented unless there were complaints.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated if there are complaints on the address there should
probably be an inspection, but it would depend on what the
complaint was.
Vice Mayor Eck commented that
is very difficult.He asked how long it took to get a complaint
against the person with 185 animals.
Councilmember Dietz asked how
they were going to control hoarding.Someone could have 50 dogs
that are real quiet.Animal control may not get a complaint on
anyone who has 5 acres but has 20 to 40 dogs.
Vice Mayor Eck commented if
they enforce it on one, they have to enforce it on everyone.
Councilmember Dietz commented
it seems the inspection should be there.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated animal control is here and they can give you their
experience on complaints.
Councilmember Severs
commented he and Animal Control Officer Sullivan had a chance to
talk for quite a while after last night's meeting.He had asked
her about several circumstances or possible scenarios that would
cause them to want to inspect someone's home.Last night he was
trying not to make it a mandatory home inspection.He had been
told that most people volunteered and that compliance did not
seem to be a problem.He would like to suggest that they ask
the people if they can come in and inspect their homes and check
to see if there are any dangers that might hurt their animals
and give them any advice that they might need.He asked if most
people would have no problem with that.
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Animal Control Officer Debbie
Sullivan stated she does not think there is an issue.Their
current ordinance requires an inspection.It is part of the
kennel permit.
Councilmember Severs asked
why they are making it mandatory to go into peoples' homes if
there is not an issue.He called about 17 people today on this
issue and they were shocked.They could not believe that we
would want people to go into their homes if they wanted a fourth
dog.He had 3 people tell him they are in violation right now,
they will not say anything and will not get their dogs spayed or
neutered or get shots.They will not comply.
Vice Mayor Eck commented that
will always happen.They will always have people that will not
want to comply.
Councilmember Severs agreed.
He would like to work this in a way where people would not mind
complying, where they would get more voluntary compliance.He
is afraid the adoption rate will go down.People will not be
adopting animals if they have 3 and then have to go through all
of this to get a fourth pet.They would have to abide by all of
these different stipulations and their home would have to be
inspected.A lot of people do not want strangers in their
house.He is afraid the euthanasia rate that they have worked
so hard to bring down will go back up because people are not
taking them out of the shelters.He asked what they are going
to do.
Vice Mayor Eck stated they
could put a panel in the yard.
Councilmember Severs
commented he is afraid that their licensing will go down.
Licensing is also a way to generate a little bit of revenue.It
will go down because people are not going to get their dogs
licensed if it is the fourth dog or fifth dog and they do not
want to go through all this.
Animal Control Officer Debbie
Sullivan stated they currently have that problem now with
licensing.There are several people in this community who have
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had dogs for years and years and the famous answer she gets is
they did not know their dogs had to be licensed.
Vice Mayor Eck agreed.
Animal Control Officer Debbie
Sullivan stated they have problem, too.
Vice Mayor Eck commented it
is an education process.
Animal Control Officer Debbie
Sullivan stated they do not know about these people unless they
are violating.
Councilmember Severs agreed.
He asked why they would create an ordinance that would put so
many people in violation.
Councilmember Dietz and Mayor
Insalaco commented that the ordinance is already there.
Councilmember Severs stated
he has 3 major concerns about this ordinance.It will deter
people from doing the right thing.People are afraid they will
have to go through all this.He gave as an example where on
page 10, it stated all dogs covered by a personal dog kennel
permit shall be vaccinated and licensed and spayed or neutered.
He asked what would happen if he had a dog that he wanted to
mate some day with another dog.
Sergeant Teresa Rodgers
stated they tried to address that under C on page 10.They
added at the discretion of animal control division, upon
documented proof, the spaying and neutering requirement shall
not apply to AKC or CKC dogs.They were trying to cover the
person who has a German Shepherd, Mastiff, Great Dane or
Pomeranian and would like to breed the dog in 5 to 6 years in
the future.It is a registered dog so they have made a
provision for that.If it is a mutt, they are all over and they
are asking them not to breed those dogs, but to adopt or rescue
one that is already there.They want to stop that; they do not
want them to be breeding those dogs.They want them spayed or
neutered.To try to put the public's mind at ease, she stated
they are not going to go in and search their house.They will
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not look in the cupboards, check the vanity or peer under the
beds.They are not searching for contraband or illegal drugs or
whatever.They are not checking any wiring to see if it is
wired properly.They are walking in to make sure it will be a
safe and healthy environment for the dogs and the people who
live there.It is not a search, it is an inspection.They will
walk up and announce they are there to do an inspection because
they asked for a kennel permit.If the owner states they do not
like strangers in their house she can empathize with that as she
does not either.But if she asks for a building permit and the
building inspector shows up and wants to inspect whatever she
has asked for a permit for, and she tells him he cannot come
into her house, she would bet she does not get her building
permit.She was a contractor who worked for her dad for years
who was a contractor; she is perfectly capable of doing any kind
of construction work.But she still has to get a permit, and
that is all they are asking the citizens to do.The kennel
permit is for the protection of the animals and the citizens.
They do not have any unreasonable expectations or requirements
for the permits.If they are going to have a large number of
animals in the home, and it is not a boarding facility, they
just want to go in and do an inspection and make sure it is a
healthy, safe environment, give them the permit and see them
next year.They will not search any home.That is not the
intent.If they walk in there and see a marijuana plant growing
or something obviously illegal, they will back out and call the
police; now we are talking an entirely different situation.If
they walk up and are told to get off the porch and get out of
the yard, that they will not be coming in the house, they will
leave.
Vice Mayor Eck commented he
had to do that as a water utility employee.People would call
him over for water quality issues, he would go to the residence
and see contraband.He would have to make a decision of whether
to call it or not.He had to go into their residence to check
the water as that is where the water was used.He never had a
complaint of going into their homes.
Councilmember Wilson asked if
they would be going into the backyard if he had a kennel back
there that he kept his animals in.They would not be going into
the house.
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Sergeant Teresa Rodgers
stated that is correct.
Councilmember Wilson asked
how they would treat a situation if they went into the house and
found it unsafe for the animal.He asked what they would do.
Sergeant Teresa Rodgers
stated they currently go into a yard or residence and if they
see something that is a problem they talk to the owner to see if
they realized it was not a safe way to keep their dog or that
they have a plant there that is unsafe for the animal.
Vice Mayor Eck commented they
use a proactive approach.
Sergeant Teresa Rodgers
stated that is correct.They go in initially for safety and
education.If they see a problem, they do not whip out the
ticket book and start writing.They try to help the people
correct whatever the problem is.As long as they are working
with them, that is the goal.They want to make everything safe
and everyone happy.They will never do that, but they try.
Councilmember Serdy asked if
they get a warning that they are going to be inspected.
Sergeant Teresa Rodgers
stated they do that now.They call them and tell them they need
to do a kennel inspection and they make an appointment for a
certain time.
Councilmember Serdy commented
they would have time to put their drugs away.
Sergeant Teresa Rodgers
stated that is correct.They would have time to make things
right if they had not cleaned up after the dogs that day.If
they run into a situation like they have recently and there is a
horrific problem, they will not straighten it up in a few days.
Addressing the issue of having a one time inspection, they would
be defeating the purpose of having a kennel permit.She
believes the continued yearly inspections are important to
prevent the things like they discovered in Tucson and we
discovered here in our own community.The conditions those poor
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animals were in were unbelievable.That is what this is for.
If they go in and do the inspection and there are major problems
like we have run into, there are no warnings.They would call
the police, the prosecutor, and follow the protocol they use.
They will be prosecuting right off the bat.That is the extreme
case.That is not the property that is not quite up to what it
should be but it is obvious the people are trying.It is
something that can be corrected fairly easily.That is what
they are going to do.This is the problem and they need to fix
this.If it is a kennel fence that the dogs are digging under,
they will tell them how to fix it and keep them from digging out
and becoming a problem.They will only go straight to
prosecution in extreme cases.
Councilmember Severs
commented last night they brought up that when you ask for a
building permit, you have to have an inspection for it.We are
not asking for something here.The city is asking the citizens
to get permission to have a fourth dog.I have to get
permission from the city to have a fourth dog.He asked if
anyone has to get permission to have a fourth child.
Vice Mayor Eck called for a
point of order to get back on the issue at hand.
Councilmember Severs asked
where the line is drawn here.He asked about cats.Someone
could have 400 cats; there is no limit.We have bird breeders
and there is no limit.There is no home inspection.
Sergeant Teresa Rodgers
stated he is right.They could what if this to death.They
could begin with horses, pot-bellied pigs, birds and whatever.
The state and the cities do their best to set regulations to
maintain the health, safety and welfare of the citizens and
animals.Dogs are a regulated animal by the state, not just us.
If they want to start what iffing things, she asked where does
the state get to tell her that her dog needs a rabies shot.She
has never had a dog that has had rabies, but it is the
regulation.This council is here to make regulations to look
after the safety and welfare of the citizens; that is what the
city code is there for.She is aware they will not make
everyone happy with the ordinances, possibly not even the entire
council.They may not completely agree on everything in the
ordinance.She has been an officer for 21 years and she has
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enforced laws she does not agree with, but they are the laws of
the country, state and city.They are there for a reason.
Councilmember Severs asked
what would happen if someone refuses to get a permit and refuses
to get a home inspection.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated under the new law it would be a civil violation with a
$250 fine.They would be summoned to court.If they did not
show up for court, there would be a default, raising the fine to
$500.If they still do nothing, it would then go to $750.
Ultimately, they would be cited in on a class 1 misdemeanor.
Councilmember Severs
commented it would be a class 1 misdemeanor and they would then
have a criminal record, permanently.
Vice Mayor Eck commented that
would be if they refused.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated that would happen if they continued not to get one after
3 incidents within 24 months.
Councilmember Severs
commented he called around this morning to Phoenix Animal
Control and Mesa Animal Control.He believes none of the other
cities do the home inspections.The other city officials were
shocked that we would want to do home inspections for animal
control.
Animal Control Officer Debbie
Sullivan stated she could not speak for the City of Mesa but she
can say that Maricopa County does not have the manpower to be
doing inspections.We are a small enough community that we can
still be doing this.
Councilmember Serdy commented
this is coming about because of the hoarders.The other cities
have had problems, with 800 animals in Tucson.
Vice Mayor Eck commented you
will have 99.9% comply; it is the one -tenth of a percent that
does not.
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Councilmember Serdy stated
that is what this is for.There is a reason they are asking for
this.It is to expose people that are hoarding too many
animals.
Councilmember Severs stated
it is scary that criminal trespass, theft of property, driving
while intoxicated, assault, criminal damage, disorderly conduct,
child neglect are class 1 misdemeanors and so are having 4 dogs
without a permit.
Vice Mayor Eck commented it
is not, as there are so many opportunities to get out of that.
He added he was asked by a reporter what the major changes were
and after talking to Joel he does not think he gave him very
much information.However, one question in particular was
asked.He asked what would happen if a loose dog had been out
and viewed running by animal control but they see it jump back
into its yard.
Animal Control Officer Debbie
Sullivan stated she has had that happen.There are several
heeler type dogs that can leap walls and not touch them.If
they continue to get out, she has taken the dog with her and
left a note on the door telling the owner to call her as she has
the dog.
Vice Mayor Eck commented it
has to be a continuation.Last night she said she gives a first
and maybe second time warning before the civil violations even
come into play.
Animal Control Officer Debbie
Sullivan stated that is correct.It is a security thing.She
has done this before, taking the animal with her, leaving a note
and giving the dog back that night.The owner was very
appreciative as they did not want their dog running around in
the neighborhood and possibly getting hit by a car.There was
no fine or penalty; it was a warning notice and they got the dog
back.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated before they open the public hearing he wanted to clarify
that Items 13 and 14 are pretty much what they discussed.The
resolution declares the document a public record and the
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ordinance is adopted by reference to avoid a large publication
cost.Item 15 is Ordinance No. 1311, which is the fee changes.
He briefed the council on the fee changes.
Mayor Insalaco opened the
public hearing on the items.
Mr. Charles Bunten, 1680 N.
Starr Road, Apache Junction, asked if this is a catch all
ordinance or is it separated under certain titles.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated it is for certain things.
Mr. Charles Bunten commented
this is the type of ordinance where they need to take the time
to go through each section and address each section instead of
trying to have a catch all ordinance.
Mr. John Kantowski, 835 W.
Windsong, Apache Junction, commented on his concerns that he
still believes in voluntary rather than mandatory for the city,
the city will be too big to be doing to mandatory inspections in
5 years, the burden of proof for the disability discount, and
asked if the animal containment system he put in is acceptable.
Mr. Mike Weller, 471 W. 21st
Avenue, Apache Junction, commented he has done animal rescue for
25 years, realized they were starting to warehouse animals and
they started getting rid of them, Animal Control Officer
Sullivan has been to his house, and that while he would normally
not allow someone in his house he would for the dog's benefit.
Mr. Noel Benoist, 900 N. San
Marcos #35, Apache Junction, commented he agreed with
decriminalizing the law but it still appears to be a catch all
law and should be developed properly.
Mrs. Shannon Flynn, 305 N.
Acacia, Apache Junction, commented she is a private person and
would not let anyone in to inspect her house; she would get rid
of her extra dog instead; that she would probably no longer
rescue dogs as she has in the past; urged them to rework the
ordinance; to consider how they vote on this; and asked who
would pay for a microchip if it gets infected.
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Mr. Todd Olear, 2898 S.
Arizona Road, Apache Junction, commented he opposed the home
inspection as a person owning only one dog could still abuse the
dog.
Ms. Christa Rizzi commented
she does not think that adding ordinances to the books will
solve the hoarding issue, but those people that are not doing
anything wrong should not have an issue with a home inspection.
Mr. Steve Flynn, 305 N.
Acacia, Apache Junction, stated this is another government
licensing scheme to grab more money and gain more control; he
also disagrees with microchipping animals.
Mayor Insalaco closed the
public hearing with no one else wishing to speak.He reopened
the item to council discussion.
Councilmember Barker asked
what, if anything, they have in the ordinance that does not come
under state law.The city attorney had cited state law for
everything he talked about.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated they are passing an ordinance regarding the control of
animals.If they want to go stricter than Title 11, they may
through an ordinance.
Councilmember Barker asked if
there is a whole lot in this ordinance that is not in state law.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated there is.
Councilmember Barker asked if
the kennels were a part of what is not state law.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated that correct.Kennels are not specifically identified in
Title 11.They can write that directly.
Councilmember Barker stated
they did break this down into types of animals with the
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exception of cats as kennels.They were broken down for spaying
fees, pound fees, and others.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated there is an overlap such as noises wherein it just talks
about animals.
Councilmember Barker stated
that would be any animal, such as a squawking peacock and a
barking dog.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated there may be overlap in other areas but when they
specifically say dog, that means it is dogs.It is the same
with pigs.In certain areas they are covered specifically and
in others they just say animals.Livestock is excepted from
animals.They are a separate category.
Councilmember Barker stated
pigs and livestock are excepted and written in as an exception,
and then we have animals and dogs, with cats under the fees, but
everything comes under animals.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated that is correct, unless they are otherwise excepted.
Vice Mayor Eck commented it
is in a way a catch all ordinance, but it does break it down
into separate sections.The Superstition Horsemen's Association
had a large input when it came to the livestock portions of the
ordinance.We did make some changes because of that.Regarding
the loose dog, if it is on the property he had asked to have
that changed.Previously it was illegal to have a dog not
confined to a leash or contained.It has now been changed to
private property without being attended by the owner.The dog
can be loose on your property without the owner in attendance if
there is some way to control it.
Councilmember Barker
commented that an electronic fence is a form of confinement.He
should have no problem, it would be in compliance.
Vice Mayor Eck commented it
is still beyond that.They can take a dog to a public park,
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throw the ball and let the dog chase it without getting a leash
law fine.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated they could not do that on public property, only private.
Vice Mayor Eck commented they
discussed this regarding all the little parks in the
subdivisions with the people playing ball with their dogs.That
was supposed to be perfectly fine.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated at large means in any street, alley or other public place
or on private property without being attended by the owner or
secured by a restraint such as a leash.
Vice Mayor Eck asked if they
could go to the park and throw a ball to their dog.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated they cannot.
Vice Mayor Eck commented they
could not go to Canyon Lake and throw the ball in the lake like
everyone does every weekend.
Councilmember Severs stated
they can because it says attended by the owner.
Vice Mayor Eck stated they
have to be on private property.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated there is an or which states or other public place or on
private property.
Vice Mayor Eck asked if it
was covered for them to be able to do that.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated it is.
Councilmember Wilson
commented the current law states they have to have a permit if
they have 3 to 5 dogs.They have increased it so that they
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could have up to 4 animals without having to have a permit.The
two types of permits cover 4 to 8 dogs.They have increased the
number.If you have 3 dogs you are currently subject to an
inspection.They are not mandating inspections now, they are
just continuing them.
There was general discussion
about the current law requiring an inspection if there are 4 or
more dogs.
Councilmember Severs
commented when they dealt with the native plant ordinance they
brought it up and they got a lot of resistance from the citizens
and fear of what it would do to the businesses.We sent it
back, worked it out several times, and came out with a balance.
He is trying for a balance on this between animal rights and
private property rights.He is afraid they do not have a
balance right now.He would like to see the animals protected,
in good homes, be treated great and be loved, and that private
property rights are protected as well.He feels if they pass
this ordinance as written right now, they have not reached that
balance.
There was general discussion
on the motions.
Vice Mayor Eck commented that
on the neighborhood preservation ordinance there were other
costs such as aerial photography and there were large parcels
involved.They sent it back.They have also sent this one back
3 or 4 times.He is ready to make a motion.
Mayor Insalaco closed the
discussion with no further comments and called for a motion.
Vice Mayor Eck MOVED THAT
RESOLUTION NO. 07-46, A RESOLUTION OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF APACHE JUNCTION, ARIZONA, DECLARING AS A PUBLIC
RECORD THAT CERTAIN DOCUMENT FILED WITH THE CITY CLERK ENTITLED
"AMENDMENT TO APACHE JUNCTION CITY CODE, VOLUME I, CHAPTER 6
ANIMALS,BE APPROVED.
Councilmember Dietz SECONDED
THE MOTION.
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VOTE:6-1 (Councilmember Severs voted in opposition.)
The motion carried.
Vice Mayor Eck MOVED THAT
ORDINANCE NO. 1310 BE READ BY TITLE ONLY AND THE READING OF THE
ENTIRE ORDINANCE BE WAIVED.
Councilmember Dietz SECONDED
THE MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
read the ordinance by title only.
Vice Mayor Eck MOVED THAT
ORDINANCE NO. 1310, AS READ BY THE CITY CLERK, BE APPROVED AND
ADOPTED WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS: FROM LAST NIGHT'S
DISCUSSION THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY ADDED IN FOR TONIGHT'S REVISED
COPY.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
asked if he was referring to the handout that he was given this
evening.
Vice Mayor Eck ADDED THE
HANDOUT THAT WE WERE GIVEN THIS EVENING WITH THE PINK
UNDERLINES.
Councilmember Dietz SECONDED
THE MOTION.
VOTE:6-1 (Councilmember Severs voted in opposition and stated
for the record that he agreed with most of it just not the part
about the home inspections and he wished the gentleman was still
here to sing his song about taking away our rights.)
The motion carried.
Vice Mayor Eck MOVED THAT
ORDINANCE NO. 1311 BE READ BY TITLE ONLY AND THE READING OF THE
ENTIRE ORDINANCE BE WAIVED.
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Councilmember Dietz SECONDED
THE MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
read the ordinance by title only.She commented she believed
the title should also say Pinal and Maricopa County, Arizona.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated it can but it does not have to.He does not think it has
to.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated we are in two counties.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated he knows but they do not do that with every ordinance.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated she recommends that they either strike the words Final
County or include Maricopa County as well.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated they should include Maricopa County as well.
Vice Mayor Eck MOVED THAT
ORDINANCE NO. 1311, AS READ BY THE CITY CLERK, BE APPROVED AND
ADOPTED.
Councilmember Dietz SECONDED
THE MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS
None.
NEW BUSINESS
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None.
COUNCIL DIRECTION TO STAFF
None.
SELECTION OF MEETING DATES, TIMES, LOCATIONS, AND PURPOSES
Councilmember Dietz MOVED
THAT AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 6:00 P.M. AND A WORK SESSION AT
7:00 P.M. BE HELD ON MONDAY, MAY 5, 2008, IN THE CITY COUNCIL
CONFERENCE ROOM AND CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, RESPECTIVELY;
AND THAT AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 6:00 P.M. BE HELD ON TUESDAY,
MAY 6, 2008, IN THE CITY COUNCIL CONFERENCE ROOM.
THE MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
ADJOURNMENT
Councilmember Severs SECONDED
)
)Mayor Insalaco adjourned
the meeting at 9:57 p.m.
Consent Agenda Items are as follows:
1. Acceptance of Agenda.
2. Acceptance of Minutes of Regular Meeting of April 1, 2008.
3. Approval of the Silly Mountain Master Plan.
4. Approval of Resolution No. 08-10, authorizing the City to
enter into an Intergovernmental Agreement with the State of
Arizona Department of Revenue to facilitate transition as a
non -program City.
5. Award of Bid for Project No. PW-2008-03, Equipment and Labor
to Crush Recycled Asphalt Concrete.
6. Award of Bid for Project No. PW-2008-05, Slurry Seal
Projects, in an Amount not to Exceed $132,000.00.
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ACCEPTED THIS 6TH DAY OF MAY, 2008, BY THE MAYOR AND CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF APACHE JUNCTION, ARIZONA.
SIGNED AND ATTESTED TO THIS 6TH DAY OF MAY, 2008.
ATTEST:
KATHLEEN CONNELLY
City Clerk
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and
correct copy of the minutes of the regular meeting of the City
Council of the City of Apache Junction, Arizona, held on the
15th day of April, 2008.I further certify that the meeting was
duly called and held and that a quorum was present.
Dated this 24th day of April, 2008.
KATHLEEN CONNELLY
City Clerk
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