HomeMy WebLinkAbout2007-06-19 City Council Regular MinutesCITY COUNCIL ,
REGULAR MEETING
JUNE 19, 2007
The regular meeting.of:the City_Councilof the -City of
Apache Junction, Arizona, was held on June 19, 2007, at the
Apache Junction City Council.Chambers:pursuant.to the notice
required by law.
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Insalaco called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
INVOCATION
Vice Mayor Eck gave the eInvocation.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Councilmember Barker led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
Cduncilmembers Present:Mayor Insalaco
Vice Mayor Eck
Councilmember-Barker
Councilmember:Dietz:
Councilmember-Serdy-
Councilmember..Severs.
Staff Present:
(Councilmember Wilson was absent.)
City Manager George Hoffman
Assistant City Manager Bryant Powell
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
City Attorney Joel Stern
Public SafetyADirector Glenn Walix
Others Present:Public Works Manager Shane Kiesow
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Planning Manager Fred Baker
Economic Dev. Dir. Steve Filipowicz
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
Building Official Dennis Dixon
ACCEPTANCE OF CONSENT AGENDA
)Vice Mayor Eck MOVED THAT
THE CONSENT AGENDA BE ACCEPTED AS PRESENTED; AND TO CONTINUE
ITEM 3 TO A LATER DATE; AND
THAT THE AWARD OF BID FOR PW 2007-07, PAVING MATERIALS, BE
AWARDED TO VULCAN MATERIALS COMPANY AT $58 PER TON FOR 9.5 MM,
5.6% AC SUPERPAVE; $57 PER TON FOR 12.5 MM, 5.1% AC SUPERPAVE;
$56 PER TON FOR 19 MM, 4.8% AC SUPERPAVE; $56 PER TON FOR 19 MM,
5.0% AC EVAC; AND $80 PER HOUR STANDBY TIME FOR DELIVERY TRUCKS
AT JOBSITE AFTER 20 MINUTES; AND
THAT THE AWARD OF BID FOR PW 2007-06, TRAFFIC SIGNAL MAINTENANCE
SERVICES, BE AWARDED. TO JILLOTTI ELECTRIC SERVICE .CO., INC. IN
THE AMOUNT OF $125 PER HOUR FOR EMERGENCY AFTER HOURS CALL OUT,
$95 PER HOUR FOR EMERGENCY REGULAR_HOURS CALL OUT, $130 PER HOUR
FOR ROUTINE MAINTENANCE, $325 PER HOUR FOR INSTALLATIONS, $85
PER HOUR FOR EACH ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE EMERGENCY AFTER HOURS CALL
OUT, AND $65 PER HOUR FOR EACH ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE EMERGENCY
REGULAR HOURS CALL OUT; AND
THAT RESOLUTION NO. 07-21, A RESOLUTION OF THE MAYOR AND THE
CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF APACHE JUNCTION, ARIZONA,
AUTHORIZING THE SUBMISSION OF AN APPLICATION FOR TRANSPORTATION
ENHANCEMENT PROGRAM FOR STATE HIGHWAYS FUNDING THROUGH THE
TRANSPORTATION EQUITY FOR THE 21ST CENTURY PROGRAM AND
CERTIFYING THAT THE APPLICATION:(1) MEETS THE COMMUNITY'S
IDENTIFIED TRANSPORTATION NEEDS; AND (2) IS NECESSARY FOR
IMPLEMENTATION AND COMPLETION OF THE ACTIVITIES OUTLINED IN THE
APPLICATION, BE APPROVED; AND
THAT THE REQUEST FOR TIME EXTENSION OF ONE YEAR TO SUBMIT FINAL
SUBDIVISION PLAT FOR SD -2-06 BY CLIFF AXT DUE TO HEALTH ISSUES
BE APPROVED; AND
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THAT THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF APACHE
JUNCTION AND THE STATE OF ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE FOR TAX
COLLECTION PURPOSES, A COOPERATIVE STANDARD AGREEMENT FOR NON-
PROGRAM CITIES, BE APPROVED.
Councilmember Dietz SECONDED
THE MOTION.
Mayor Insalaco asked what
number was supposed to have been continued.
continued it.He did not read it.
asked which one.
Vice Mayor Eck commented he
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
Vice Mayor Eck stated it is
the street maintenance.It was three on the consent.He asked
the public works manager if he got the right one.
Public Works Manager Shane
Kiesow stated he did.
(Vice Mayor Eck had stated number 3 in the motion.The item he
did not read and therefore continued was item 5, Street
Maintenance Paving Projects, which was the third paragraph of
the original motion after accepting the agenda.)
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
AWARDS, PRESENTATIONS AND COMMUNICATIONS
Dean Bob Salmon, Academic Dean of Central Arizona College, gave
a presentation on art in the community and CAC's contribution.
CALL TO THE PUBLIC
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Mr. Noel Benoist, 900 N. San Marcos #35, Apache Junction,
addressed the council regarding a mulberry tree he would like to
donate to the city.
Mr. Bill Sandry, 6359 E. Indigo St., Mesa, addressed the council
to compliment the city's choice on new staff, a reconsideration
of the new impact fees submittal, and the support of the
Business and Property Owners of Apache Junction for the native
plant preservation ordinance.
Mr. John Kantowski, 835 W. Windsong, Apache Junction, addressed
the council in support of cargo containers being allowed
citywide, caretaker residences, and the troops overseas.
Ms. Anne Coe, 5776 E. Forest, Apache Junction, addressed the
council regarding her mural people being available where needed
and spoke in support of an arts commission.
Vice Mayor Eck commented he does not believe mulberry trees are
allowed here, advised that the new impact fees were discussed
last night and they are still below most communities but they
are working on smoother processes, and that he would like to
look at how to create an arts commission.
ANNOUNCEMENT OF CURRENT EVENTS
None.
CITY MANAGER'S REPORT
None.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
APPLICATION FOR A PERMANENT
EXTENSION OF PREMISES ON THE LIQUOR
LICENSE OF DOG RUN SALOON
)City Clerk Kathleen
Connelly briefed the council on the item.She stated there have
been several of these since the new statewide smoking law went
into effect.The businesses are now faced with having to
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accommodate:their:smokers in an area that is not contained
within the premises.They then: have to:get .an extension- of
premises..This business is located.jUSt west of the city:
complex on,Superstition;The packets: contain :diagrams from the:
applicant and:letters:from the policedepartment, the fire:
district and planning :staff.Staff recommendations. address
technidal.issues;:noneof them have the authority to grant
approval of the extension..The applicants are present this
evening'.
Mayor:Insalaco requested the
applicant address:the -council.
Mr. and Mrs. Bob and Donna
Rosencranse, 4841.N. Cactus, Apache Junction, addressed the
council.He stated it is a two -fold application.It is for a
smoking patio and a second one for a suite extension; they would
like to take over a third suite in August just west of them.It
would give them another 600 sq.ft. inside.
•Vice:Mayor Eck asked if they :
could Make a, recommendation on the additional 600 sq.ft.The:
application states fOr:a:permanent extension of premises.
City Attorney Joel Stern.
stated it is in the application B O he:believes:they can.
Vice Mayor Eck asked if they
have the one with the fence out in the parking lot.
Mr. Bob Rosencranse stated
they d
ViceAqayor Eck asked how much
it:has:affected,the parking for the customers.
Mr. Bob Rosencranse stated
they cut four parking spaces, but they went to the city planner
before they did so.Todd Kennedy walked the parking lot; when
Mr. Beaulieu built the facility, he overbuilt the parking lot by
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17 parking spaces.It is the only ,direction to go with how the
.building is'placed and the proximity ta.the :building and the
garbage container out back.
Vice Mayor Eck commented they
should have been there when the building was built.It was
nothing but desert befOre.
Mr. Bob Rosencranse stated he
did a great job.They are happy to be there; it is a good spot.
Vice Mayor Eck commented he
just wanted to know if there had been an impact.
Mr. Bob Rosencranse stated
there has been a positive impact in that they now have patrons
parking in the back.They have doors that are accessible from
the back.More people are parking.back -there.
Mayor .Insalaco opened the
public hearing on the item.There being no one wishing to
speak, he closed the public hearing and reopened the item to.
council discussion..
Vice Mayor Eck asked ifTOdd.
Kennedy had gotten the.information-regarding the site plan and
written consent.
Senior PlannerRudy Esquivias
stated he did.
City Manager George Hoffman
commented the application seems to indicate that it is for .a.
smoking patio expansion with a business:space of 850 sq.ft He
asked if they.are subsuming the expansion into the third suite
and if it had.been included in the.reviews
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated the correspondence from planning seems to indicate that
it is just the parking space area.
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Vice Mayor Eck commented
there is 600 sq.ft. on the site plan.
Mr. Bob Rosencranse stated
they may have filled out the paperwork wrong.It will be okay
for them to come back in August.It is not an issue.Their
site plan shows both of them proposed.They might not have
given their best explanation of the expansion.
Vice Mayor Eck asked how long
his building currently is.
Mr. Bob Rosencranse stated
his fascia of the building now is 53 feet across the front.
Planning Manager Fred Baker
stated the building was built and he is extending his lease
space area.The building did not include the leased space
inside the building.The parking requirement was based on an
existing building.The extension of the business premises is
the outdoor smoking area.That is all that was approved.
Vice Mayor Eck commented that
is the 600 feet.He asked the city attorney if the 600 feet is
covered tonight.
Planning Manager Fred Baker
stated it is an extension of premises outside what was
previously approved.The building was previously approved for
whatever tenant moves into the building.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated there needs to be clarification.This is an application
for an extension of premises for the liquor license.It has
nothing to do with the pre-existing building.She sees nothing
on the application beyond the smoking area.
Councilmember Severs
commented it will have to come back when they do the extension
of premises to the other suite.
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City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated that is correct.
Vice Mayor Eck commented he
was trying to save him another trip.
Mr. Bob Rosencranse stated
that is what they were also trying to do.They should have put
2 lines on this.The 850 sq.ft. is the patio; he thought by
having the drawing and moving over one suite it would be
covered.They will have to come back again for the suite.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated it is not subsumed in the 850 sq.ft. in that box.
Mr. Bob Rosencranse stated
that is the patio, and that is the important piece for right
now.They cannot serve out there right now.
Mayor Insalaco commented that
is what they are asking for.
Mr. Bob Rosencranse stated
that is correct.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated it will cover the outside area, not the increase in the
interior space.
Councilmember Severs
commented he went there the other night and was surprised to
pull into the parking lot and see it right there.He asked what
there is to prevent anyone from running into it.
Mr. Bob Rosencranse stated
there is nothing.
Councilmember Severs stated
he was a little concerned about that.It does protrude out into
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the parking lot.He asked if the fire department or building
department said anything.
Mr. Bob Rosencranse stated
they did not.The same question would be what would prevent
someone from running through his front window.They have a 6"
sidewalk that is 3' away from glass doors.It is the way it is
designed.There was never anything mentioned about barriers or
anything else.They have now made it Sante Fe style and it
mirrors the building.
Mayor Insalaco closed the
discussion with no further comments and called for a motion.
Councilmember Barker MOVED
THAT THE APPLICATION FOR A PERMANENT EXTENSION OF PREMISES ON
THE LIQUOR LICENSE OF DOG RUN SALOON, SUBMITTED BY DONNA
ROSENCRANSE, BE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL TO THE ARIZONA
DEPARTMENT OF LIQUOR LICENSES AND CONTROL.
Vice Mayor Eck SECONDED THE
MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
APPLICATION FOR A PERMANENT
EXTENSION OF PREMISES ON THE
LIQUOR LICENSE OF JAKES-O-MINE
)City Clerk Kathleen
Connelly briefed the council on the item.This is another
business needing to find a way to accommodate its smokers.The
packet contains the application, diagrams and pictures of their
proposal, and their have been no objections raised by internal
staff or the fire district.The applicant has been invited to
attend.
Mayor Insalaco requested the
applicant address the council.
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Mr. Kent Young, owner of
Jakes-O-Mine, 725 W. Lost Dutchman, addressed the council.He
stated since the voters passed .the no smoking law, he needs to
provide a place for people to smoke.
Mayor Insalaco stated he
liked his proposal;:it:is extensive and colored pictures mean -a ,
lot.
Vice Mayor Eck commented he
runs a fine establishment.
Mr. Kent YOung commented. it
is not very big, only 10' by 20'; it is only a couple of hundred
square teet.
Vice Mayor Eck commented some
of his customers seem to like it so they can park their bikes-.
•Mr. Kent Young stated it is
comfortable with a. couple tables and chairs.It is a nice place
to sit and smoke.
Mayor Insalaco opened the
public hearing on the item.There being no one wishing to
speak, he closed the -public hearing and reopened the item to
council discussion.There -being no further discussion, he
called for a motion.
Councilmember Dietz MOVED:
THAT -.THE APPLICATION.FOR ,AN EXTENSIONrOF .PREMISES :ON THE LIQUOR:
LICENSE OF JAKES-0,-MINE, SUBMITTED BY HAROLD:KENT .YOUNG, BE
RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL TO THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENTOF LIQUOR
LICENSES AND CONTROL._
Vice Mayor Eck SECONDED THE
MOTION.
VOTE Unanimous._
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The motion carried.
APPLICATION FOR AN INTERIM PERMIT,.
NEW LICENSE, CORPORATION, 1 SERIES
12 LIQUOR LICENSE FOR COUSIN
VINNIES
)City Clerk Kathleen
Connelly briefed the council on the item.This is not an
extension,of'premises.This is a:change.in ,ownership and state
law requires a new. application.Thereare no objections
internally or by the fire district.The 'applicant has been
asked to be present.
Mayor Insalaco requested the
applicant address the council.
Mr. Paul McCartney, owner of
Cousin Vinnies, addressed the. council.He stated they purchased
the restaurant about 4 weeks ago and they opened up this week.
Councilmember Dietz commented ,
it seems they had done this before not too long ago.
Mayor -Insalaco commentedlhe
liked what they had done to the front.It -dressed it up a:lot.,
He then opened the public hearing' on theitem.There being,no
one wishing to speak, he closed the public hearing and reopenedi
the item to council discussion.There being no discussion, he
called for a motion.
Councilmember Severs MOVED
THAT THE APPLICATION FOR IAN INTERIM PERMIT, NEW LICENSE,
CORPORATION, SERIES 12 LIQUOR LICENSE FOR COUSIN VINNIES
RESTAURANT, SUBMITTED BY PAUL MCCARTNEY, BE RECOMMENDED FOR
APPROVAL TO THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF LIQUOR LICENSES AND
CONTROL.
Councilmember Dietz SECONDED
THE MOTION.
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VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
ORDINANCE NO. 1297, AM -1-07,
ZONING ORDINANCE TEXT AMENDMENT
FOR DISABLED CARE DWELLING UNIT/
CARETAKER RESIDENCE
)Councilmember Barker
declared a conflict of interest and left the council chambers.
Mayor Insalaco explained
Councilmember Barker was on the planning and zoning commission
when this item came up.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
briefed the council on the item.He stated this text amendment
will allow a disabled care dwelling unit/caretaker residence on
a single-family zoned property.Staff realized at the work
session last night that the guest unit portion of this ordinance
needs to be extracted because it was not properly advertised.
The paperwork recently given them are the suggested deletions to
the ordinance, including removing all references to guest units,
specifying that Section 6.0108.2 is the caretaker section, that
yearly renewals be accompanied by a physician's letter, possible
fee amounts, and possible fee amounts for a yearly renewal.
Staff is recommending inserting a phrase for means of
clarification regarding special density permits for the
caretakers; staff believes the phrase require that it be renewed
upon proof it is still needed by means of a letter from a
doctor.Staff tried to find comparable administrative fees for
documents and letters issued in the development services fee
schedule.He found some comparables in letters for unlawful use
which has a fee or $270, verification of zoning for a $230 fee,
and the annual special sign permit for offsite development signs
is $300; these are all application over-the-counter documents.
The range is $250 to $350, but it is up for council
deliberation.There is staff time involved and a monitoring
process for these permits.There was a question of a renewal
fee; staff is recommending a $100 fee.Although it did not make
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it into the ordinance, there was some discussion by the
commission of possibly requiring the fifth wheel travel trailer
or motor home being used for a dwelling should be properly
licensed and operational.
Vice Mayor Eck asked if they
could change the language requiring a letter from a doctor to a
letter from a licensed physician.He has been to homeopathic
doctors and asked where they have gotten their degrees and it
could be from Beirut or they may be a veterinarian.
stated they could.
asked if that was Arizona licensed.
thinks they should be.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
City Attorney Joel Stern
Vice Mayor Eck stated he
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated the reason he is asking is because if they want staff to
verify they are a licensed physician, it is easier to do it if
they are licensed in Arizona.
Vice Mayor Eck commented they
need to establish somebody local.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated meaning Arizona.
Vice Mayor Eck commented that
is correct.He had suggested a fee of $100 and there were some
people who did not agree, but the minimal fee in the structure
is $250 so he would like to see the application fee be $250 with
the renewal fee being no more than $25.He thinks the $100
renewal fee is too high.
Mayor Insalaco stated he was
thinking along the lines of $25 to $50 for the renewal fee.
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City Attorney Joel Stern
stated the reasons those fees were suggested is because he and
Rudy went over this today for a good amount of time, determining
what staff demand would be on verifying all this information.
The minimal amount of $25 or $50 would not cover it.
Mayor Insalaco asked if that
is on the renewal.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated the renewal is suggested at $100 at that probably does
not cover all the labor time for an employee to go through
everything that needs to be verified.
Councilmember Dietz commented
the renewal should not have near as much time involved as when
they first applied.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated that is correct.
Councilmember Dietz commented
they are basically verifying what the doctor stated and that
everything is legit.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated that is correct.It would also help to cover the cost of
monitoring these things.They will need to set up an internal
tickler system as these permits could be processed at any time.
It is not like they all expire at the same time of the year.
Vice Mayor Eck commented he
is thinking of the sensitivity of the people involved.Some of
the people will be on social security that is at $300 to $400 a
month.He agreed to cut it in half to $50.He is agreeable to
the $250 for the application fee as that is the minimal fee.
Councilmember Severs
commented he thought the purpose for them allowing a travel
trailer/motor home/fifth wheel was because it is an inexpensive
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way to help take care of someone who needs medical care.He.
believes that $250 to $300 for a permitito:do this along with
all the other-expenses:that will be. incurredby :taking care of
someone who is medicallyill is too much.They aretrying to
help their citizens and:they need to do it.in every way they
can..It is too much for a -piece of paper. to saythat the
trailer is legal to stay in:their yard for.the person staying in
it to take care ofisomeone in the residence.
Councilmember Dietz commented
he did not think they -would be assessing it on everyone.
Vice Mayor Eck commented they
have a health and human services commission.
Councilmember Severs
commented abbut all the time that hasbeen wasted .on all this
research.It has been -7 months.
Vice Mayor Eck commented they
have a health.and human services commission that has $100,000 a:
year.They have other social funding,that :they 'give out to the
community.Realistically, $250 is only going to cover a very
small portion of the time taken to do -the permit process.That
is the minimal amount., He:thought they:needed some type of fee
and that is the minimal_fee.-
Councilmember Serdy commented
all the other examples given were for: developers and businesses.
People that can easily absorb these fees..
Mayor Ihsalaco commented -not
necessarily.
Councilmember Serdy asked
what actual man hours. it would take for themto -do the license.
He does not think the:city should make,money off these people.
Vice Mayor Eck stated the
city is not making any money.
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Mayor Insalaco and
Councilmember Dietz agreed.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated the example of .a non -conforming use letter comes from
citizens who have non -conforming properties such as 3 trailers
on .a property and they,want to sell itiand the buyer wants to.be
able to verify: that they will be able to continue the use of the
3 trailers.
Councilmember Serdy stated
that person is getting rent from 3 trailers; that is a pretty
good business.He is making money; these people are not making
money from this.All the other examples were people making
money from these:permits.
Vice MayorEck commented that
is right, but there is the staff time involved to do a permit.
Councilmember Severs
commented: that. is what he is wondering., •
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated a nonconforming .letter, depending on. the amount of
research needed to be done, is several man hours.
Vice Mayor Eck commented they
also have to do the 300' notification.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated there is also .the notification of .the surrounding
property owners, mailing fees and putting the letters together.
Vice Mayor Eck commented they
are probably talking about 16-24 man hours per permit.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated it is in some cases.
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Vice Mayor Eck commented at
$20 per hour it is at $320 minimum, plus mailing fees.
Mayor Insalaco commented the
problem he is seeing is that they are adding more jobs for staff
to do and taking their time away from other things they should
be doing and adding this in.Somewhere there has to be some
compensation.
Councilmember Severs
commented they have been hearing all along since this was
brought up 7 months ago that there is one or two cases every two
or three years that needs it.
Vice Mayor Eck commented once
it is created it can be used.This has not been created.Once
it has been, they will have to see how many permits come in.
They will have to judge it 6 months to a year from now and see
how many people are aware of it and start using it.It is a
very minimal fee.
City Manager George Hoffman
commented they seem to be in consensus on the Arizona physician
issue but if this is a family taking care of someone, they might
be coming from another state.He asked if they could not use
the physician from that state so they do not have to go through
the whole doctor circuit again here.
Vice Mayor Eck asked how they
could live here and be treated if they did not have a local
physician.
Councilmember Serdy commented
the people who will take care of her live here and they are
having grandma sent here so that she could be taken care of.
Councilmember Severs
commented they might be mentally challenged and they do not need
to see a physician.
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Vice Mayor Eck commented they
will need a physician's letter to get in.He assumed if they
are ill and here that they would have to be established with
somebody.He does not really care on that one, he just thought
it made sense to have an Arizona physician.Staff will have to
look to make sure it is a physician, even if the physician is
out of state.He commented if the city attorney states it is
okay, then that is okay with him.He wanted to make sure they
could get that research from here.
Mayor Insalaco stated there
are always ways to verify that.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated the only concern is that it is verifiable.If it is not,
the permit would probably be rejected.
Councilmember Dietz commented
they could probably check legitimacy on line.They might have
to make a call to the office.
Vice Mayor Eck commented they
could just take Arizona out.
City Attorney Joel Stern
commented that if it is in a state that is not on line, they
might have to call.There would be a slight delay but that is
the only logistical issue.
Mayor Insalaco stated it
would also be more staff time.
City Attorney Joel Stern
commented they are going to take out Arizona.
Vice Mayor Eck commented that
is correct.He is more concerned with it just being a licensed
physician.They can also lower the fee if everyone agrees.
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Councilmember Severs
suggested they try it at a lower fee and see how many they get
and how much of a burden it becomes on staff.If it becomes a
large burden, we raise the fee, instead of the other way around.
Vice Mayor Eck commented they
already know the minimum amount of time it will take for a
permit.
Mayor Insalaco commented he
does not have a problem with the initial fee, he has a problem
with the renewal fee.
Vice Mayor Eck commented once
it is set up, and they are there 10 years at $100 a year, it can
be kind of high.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated in the cover page to the addendum there was also some
discussion last night about continuing the guest portion of the
ordinance and bringing it back in a month once it has been duly
advertised.He has also given them a recommended motion should
the council wish to bring back the guest unit provision.
Mayor Insalaco opened the
public hearing on the item.
Mr. Noel Benoist, 900 S. San
Marcos #35, Apache Junction, addressed the council.He
commented he had a couple of solutions.There is an
organization called CAHRA and another called TAP, the telephone
assistance program.CAHRA can pay up to about $400 or $500 of
their utilities, and TAP pays $20 a month on their telephone.
They could actually get a $240 break annually from TAP.They
can get a $200 to $300 break on utilities.If they wait until
summer and give them a $78 bill or whatever, they get a $300
break.If the bill is at $125, they get about a $400 or $500
break.If planning and zoning, along with the permit, said they
are disabled and can qualify for these programs, they are more
or less getting their permit fee to help the city and they are
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being given back morethan they are:paying,,the city in benefits
It would be an annual basis.This would help the city in
qualifying them!because CAHRA and: TAP validate and check.on
their status to see if they are actually disabled.They could
actually get them qualified with CAHRA andATAP, take those
qualifications and physician's note, and they have what: they
need to validate the fact that they are a disabled person
needing care.He agreed with the lower rate on the renewal fee
and would like to see them lower theA.nitial fee also.They are
then giving to:the disabled who need -it, and ,that is the kind of
city we,want to:be known as, a city with a heart.He thinks the
changes are good:and,he recommends approval.
Mr. Louis Babin, 2191 S.
Belair, Apache:Junction,: addressed the council.He suggested
:the wording be changed to board certified.He would also start
with the lowest amount for a fee and raise .it if there is:a
flood of applications.He agreed with the mayor that the
renewal fee should be lower as theyAaave already been processed_
before.It is:easy to .call the boards to get the information.
Mr. John Kantowski -commented
.there are chiropractors :and psychiatrists who deal with mentally
challenged people and they are not. licensed _physicians.They
have to remember they are talking about the disabled, including
social security disabled and veterans -administration with
veterans that.are.100% :disabled.There will be American
Disabilities Act laws tofollow.
Mayor Insalaco commented he
thinks he is missing the point.The people living in the mobile
homes will be the caregivers, not the disabled people living in
the house.
Mr. John Kantowski commented'
they are asking for a letter from a licensed physician for:the
people living -in the house.There:are a lot of different:board
certified doctors that are not licensed physicians.
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Vice Mayor Eck commented he
does not think the letter should come froura chiropractor.
Mr. John .Kantowski commented
they may still have to deal with American Disabilities Act laws
because this -person is disabled.The city attorney would have
to .research it.He commented the renewal fee was suggested.
because it is some way.for development services to make sure -the
trailer is not a dump:They want current licenses and
registrations:because:they will have to be -movedin there.It
is one way for them to :make -sure the trailer is still up to
livable standards.Hefeels the $250 fee:is high, and yesterday
he :thought the $100 was high, but it is the council's
recommendation He is sure the applicant will jump at this- even
if it is $250.
Councilmember 'Severs
commented she -is not :here tonight; he might be dead already.
Vice Mayor Eck commented it
is .because- he. continued i
Mayor Insalaco closed the
public hearing and reopened the item to council discussion.
Councilmember Severs asked
what the special density permit fees are for the county.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated they are not listed on the application.He does not have
that information.
Councilmember Severs
commented he -has a text message into Sandie Smith for that
information and he is waiting for her to call him back.
Vice -Mayor Eck commented' they
have to be-realistic:with .the fee.He is:saying to take the
lowest fee that is recommended and. on the -renewal fee he would.
like to go half of the recommendation.
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Mayor Insalaco agreed.He
added they want to take care of the citizens but we also have a
city to run and staff needs to be on other things.
Vice Mayor Eck commented they
are doing a tremendous thing and this is very minor compared to
the actual ability to do the things that these people need to
do.These are very minor details.
Councilmember Serdy asked how
many they think they might have in a year.If they have only 3
or 4, they are talking about $300 to $400 to the city.The
water company operates at a loss; he thinks they can afford to
help people for $300 or $400.
Councilmember Severs stated
he is looking at the big picture if they take the $250 fee and
then they have another $100 to go see the doctor to get a note.
Vice Mayor Eck commented they
have to have the letter in the first place so there would be no
additional cost.
Councilmember Severs
commented if they do not have a trailer and are doing this out
of necessity, and possibly an emergency, they have to go buy a
fifth wheel or trailer.
other cities have this.
stated the only other one
are the city with the big
$250 fee with this entire
does in the whole valley.
amazing here and they are
Vice Mayor Eck asked how many
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
they found was Gila County.
Vice Mayor Eck commented they
heart and are arguing over a one-time
ordinance that no other city or town
He thinks they are doing something
arguing over minute details.
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Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated he found the application form.The county's current
application form shows a $100 non-refundable filing fee for a
special density permit.
Vice Mayor Eck asked if they
have an annual fee, then stated they probably do not as they do
not enforce it.
Councilmember Severs
commented it is $100 in the county and no annual renewal fee.
He asked why they could not do the same thing and see how it
works.
Vice Mayor Eck agreed to do
the same thing as it is better than arguing over peanuts now.
They are very fortunate this ordinance is even here.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
asked if the county fee was non-refundable.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated that is correct.
Councilmember Severs asked if
the fee would kill people doing this.
Mayor Insalaco commented it
is possible.
Vice Mayor Eck asked what he
meant.
Councilmember Severs
commented that because the fee is too low, the council may
decide it does not want to do this.
Vice Mayor Eck commented he
will find out with the vote and he was not helping himself.
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Mayor Insalaco closed the
discussion with no further comments and called for a motion.
Vice Mayor Eck MOVED THAT THE
ORDINANCE BE READ BY TITLE ONLY AND THE READING OF THE ENTIRE
ORDINANCE BE WAIVED.
Councilmember Dietz SECONDED
THE MOTION.
There was general discussion
as to what would be needed in the next motion.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
read the ordinance by title only.
Vice Mayor Eck MOVED THAT
ORDINANCE NO. 1297, AS READ BY THE CITY CLERK, BE APPROVED AND
ADOPTED WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS:PAGE 1, DELETE PHRASE
"ALLOWING GUEST HOUSES AND"; ALSO IN THE LOWER PARAGRAPH
"ALLOWING GUEST HOUSES AND"; ON PAGE 2, DELETE THE ENTIRE
SECTION 6.0108.2; ON PAGE 3, INSERT SECTION 6.0108.2 SPECIAL
DENSITY PERMIT FOR DISABLED CARE DWELLING UNIT; PAGE 4, CHANGE
ITEM 2 "BY MEANS OF LETTER FROM A DOCTOR" TO "BY MEANS OF A
LETTER FROM A BOARD CERTIFIED PHYSICIAN"; AND ON PAGE 6, ITEM 7,
FOR A FEE IT BE A $100 NONREFUNDABLE APPLICATION FEE; AND FOR A
RENEWAL LETTER MENTIONED IN NUMBER 2 ABOVE IT SHALL BE
ACCOMPANIED BY A $50 ANNUAL RENEWAL FEE; RENUMBER ORIGINAL
SECTION 8 TO SECTION 9, AND'DELETE "H" THROUGH "N" ENTIRELY.
Councilmember Serdy SECONDED
THE MOTION.
There was general discussion
on the guest unit issue.It was determined to bring it back in
another motion.
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VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
Councilmember Severs MOVED
THAT THE REMAINDER OF THE ORDINANCE RELATING TO GUEST HOUSES BE
REFORMATTED INTO A SEPARATE ORDINANCE FOR DISCUSSION ON JULY 16
AT A WORK SESSION, AND IFURTHER BE CONSIDERED FOR A VOTE ON
AUGUST 7 AT A PUBLIC HEARING.
Councilmember Dietz SECONDED
THE MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
Mayor Insalaco called for a 5
minute break
Mayor Insalaco reconvened the
meeting.
RESOLUTION NO. 07-22, IMPLEMENTING
MEASURES OF THE MARICOPA
ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTS 2007
FIVE PERCENT PLAN TO REDUCE PM -10
IN THEMARICOPA COUNTY.'
NONATTAINMENT AREA
)Public Works Manager Shane
Kiesow briefed the council on the item.He 'gave a powerpoint
presentation that included a description of PM -10, major sources
of PM -10, the boundaries of the area, the five percent plan, the
ten suggested control measures with the city being committed to
eight of them, and federal sanctions.The resolution contains'
the control measures suggested by the.Maricopa Association of
Governments.Staff looked at measures that would not impact our
current or approaching ,fiscal year budget of 2007-2008.
Commitments included time for city staff to .further evaluate
what we are currently doing that may already be meeting some of
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these control measures :before any, more:ordinances or measures'
are adopted.•He listedthe_control measures :to be enforced and
which would not beenfOrced at this time Staff will comeipack
at .a later date with anychanges if needecLto.fill the
commitment,,
Mayor Insalaco commented he
had said they have 3 monitoring stations and:Apache Junction has
• one of them.
Publid -Works Manager Shane•
Kiesow stated: there,isone here and several throughout Mesa and
Phoenix.
Mayor Insalaco commented the,
one there is: in one of the ,dUstiest -areas ,around.'.,
Public Works Manager Shane
Kiesow stated it is not.The monitor here had no violations
within the first plan.Most of the violating monitors were in
Phoenix and the Higley monitor, which is along Higley Road.
Vice Mayor Eck commented that
'brings up that they realistically want us in the area for our:
clean: air to,helP,bring their level down by ,voIume.:They have
even auggested going:as ,,far as Superior -and Kearny to try.to
bring that level down with the current issue 'that they have,
Public Works Manager Shane:
Kiesow stated we do get some ,dust drift:and:he believes that is
one of their main -arguments:for adding Apache Junction to this,:
even though you do notsee any obvioussmog,in the city or dust.
in the evening It actually drifts:,down -to:a:low—point that is:
contributing to:theproblem;•
Councilmember Dietz asked how
muchof the federal funds :dOes Apache,Junction.see that would be
threatened since they brought us into the. containmentarea.
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Public Works Manager Shane
Kiesow stated a lot of the transportation funds that Maricopa
Association of Governments get are for transit as well as some
to be used for any type of capital facilities transportation.
For example the main corridors of US 60.
Vice Mayor Eck commented if
the station keeps coming up high they would be affected by that.
He asked if they would lose the funds from the areas that are
out of compliance or if it is for the entire containment area.
Public Works Manager Shane
Kiesow stated it is for the whole containment area.
Vice Mayor Eck commented it
will happen because they will never be able to meet the standard
as it is not built for the desert.It is built for areas where
there are green trees and not dirt lots.
Public Works Manager Shane
Kiesow stated Maricopa Association of Governments' intent is to
hop through all the loops that they need to hop through that the
Environmental Protection Agency is requiring.If we develop the
plan and show some good modeling, that shows we are attempting
to do it.
Vice Mayor Eck commented he
understands that they have to show the effort, but the
Environmental Protection Agency is not asking for realistic
goals for this region.They have to think about regions instead
of looking at all 50 states the same.They need to look at
individual regions, like this one that is high in particulates
because of the desert.Staff will not recommend going out and
installing all the speed limit signs at $200 to $250 apiece as
we will be paving those streets within a couple of years.We
would be throwing away the money.
Councilmember Serdy commented
they would not have police officers going out there to monitor-
it either.
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Public Works Manager Shane
Kiesow stated they would not because if someone is speeding on a
dirt road and a police chase ensues, we have just multiplied our
dust by multiple times.
Vice Mayor Eck commented the
state law is 25 miles per hour on any unmarked road.
Public Works Manager Shane
Kiesow stated enforcement is the second issue.The Manual
Uniform for Traffic Control Devices states if we have regulation
signs out there we must have reasonable enforcement.We did not
think we could meet a reasonable enforcement on 15 miles per
hour.
Vice.Mayor Eck commented this
is very disheartening to him as he has been to many meetings and
has heard the discussions and the professionals talk about the
equality coming from the Environmental Protection Agency in
comparison to other states that do not have a majority of
thousands of square miles of dirt.They have plains and
grasslands, but not dirt, which creates particulates.However,
we still have to comply with the same compliance issue as them.
It is very difficult to do.
Councilmember Serdy stated
they also have rain.
Vice Mayor Eck commented we
get 6 to 10 inches a year.
Public Works Manager Shane
Kiesow stated he is not arguing against him, but he has seen a
chart from Maricopa Association of Governments of all the
violations that have occurred up until the previous plans.They
had multiple violations prior to this plan that has been
implemented.Those violations did drop off significantly.He
is not sure if that will make him feel better, but the plans are
having an impact.
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Vice Mayor Eck commented he
questions the data, but they do have to follow the plan.It is
mandatory.
Mayor Insalaco opened the
public hearing on the item.
Mr. Louis Babin, 2191 S.
Belair, Apache Junction, addressed the council.He has been
hearing in the news about the particulates and what they are
thinking about doing.He thought he had heard they would
require the contractors or the counties in the areas where the
contractors are to have someone on site to make sure the area is
watered down appropriately when it is supposed to be.He asked
if they knew if that is being required and whether the
contractor or the county monitors it.
Vice Mayor Eck commented it
is the county and they originally hired 20 officers to do it and
then had to double it.
Mr. Louis Babin stated he
read where they would be required to be on site for most of the
time.They are getting serious about it.He agreed that the
federal government has the same standards for us as a place with
a lot of green grass.It is not fair.
Mr. Noel Benoist, 900 S. San
Marcos #35, Apache Junction, addressed the council.The
mountains and rocks east of us cool down at night and creates
the cool air that comes down and pushes everything towards
Phoenix and keeps the smog that way.When the wind blows west
to east, their smog comes over here.It needs to be pointed out
to them that they are getting quality air from us, not the
reverse.Most contractors are required to keep the dust to a
minimum by throwing out some water.It is covered in the
federal regulations.Our stats show they are giving them good
air.
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Mayor 'Inbalaco closed the
public hearing!with:no one else wishing to speak and reopened
the item, to council discussion_
Vice Mayor Eck commented this
is so controversial.They want xeriscape and yet they are doing
construction and you have to use lots of water to try to keep
the dust down.Now the Department of Environmental Quality is
taking about having to dechlorinate any water used out of a
hydrant, even though it is drinking water.He wonders what the
cost of thàtwilLbe..These are frustrating mandates.It is an
unrealistic goal.
Mayor!Insalaco closed the
discussion with no''turther commentsand.called for a motion
Councilmember. Barker MOVED
THAT RESOLUTION NO. 07-22, A RESOLUTION OF THE MAYOR AND CITY
COUNCIL OF THEI CITY OF APACHE JUNCTION, ARIZONA, IMPLEMENTING
MEASURES OF THE MARICOPA ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTS 2007 FIVE
PERCENT PLAN TO REDUCE PM -10 IN THE MARICOPA COUNTY
NONATTAINMENT AREA, BE APPROVED.
Vice Mayor Eck ,SECONDED THE
MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous
The motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS
None
NEW 1BUSINESS
None
COUNCIL DIRECTION:TO -STAFF!
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DISCUSSION:ON-2007 'LEAGUE OF
ARIZONA CITIES AND TOWNS
RESOLUTIONS ,)•
)Assistant to the:City
Manager Ruth Giese briefed the councilon .the item,She stated
two weeks ago council discussed submitting a proposed: resolution
for 2007 for .review.She has given them a draft of what was
discussed;.a-possible native plant. resolution.Attached to the
draft are two:proposals from othericities to co-sponsor their
resolutions:_the.Town of Payson and the Town of Queen: Creek.
Vice Mayor Eck asked•if•they
had signed on with Apache Junction:. •
Assistant to the City Manager
Ruth Giese stated they have not.These are their proposals they
have sent out for council consideration to co-sponsor if they
wish.
Vice Mayor Eck stated they
would need to ask them to sign ours.
Assistant to the City Manager
Ruth Giese stated that is correct, and they would begin that
process immediately if receiving council direction to do so.
Vice Mayor Eck commented it
is a Councilmember:Dietz idea and he thinks it is a good thing.
It is difficult,for.developers and they are making it user
friendly, bringing awareness and attention to it.He suggested
they ask either Payson or Queen Creek; to back our resolution.
Councilmember Barker stated
Queen Creek could be a good idea as.they.are close and have
similar plants:.
Councilmember Dietz agreed.
Councilmember Serdy asked if
this is the one:about the fines for the caliper inches.
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Vice Mayor Eck commented it
is about cactus.
Councilmember Serdy stated it
is already illegal to .destroy cactus.
Mayor Insalaco stated there
is no enforcement.
Vice Mayor Eck commented it
is not illegal.They can blade off the lot; they can get a
permit but no one comes to look.They have some larger
developments coming and they can seesome beautiful, lush,
native landscape They would like to see the plants relocated
on site or have it planted somewhere in the community.There
are volunteer groups that will come and do it for nothing.
Councilmember Dietz commented
even a nursery will come and take them for nothing.
Councilmember Serdy asked if
prickly pear are on the list.They are quite abundant and if
you water them they will grow like crazy.
Vice Mayor Eck commented what
brought this about was downtown they bladed it all off, saguaros
and everything.
Councilmember Barker
commented it also adds a nice enforcement section.It provides
the Department of Agriculture some enforcement mechanisms and is
asking that all communities adopt this.If it is statewide, and
everyone has a similar ordinance controlling these, she thinks
there will be more adherence to that.
Assistant to the City Manager
Ruth Giese asked if they wanted her to go ahead and get a co-
sponsor and proceed with submitting it by the July 2 deadline.
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City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated they do not have to limit it to just one co-sponsor.
They can contact Scottsdale and Tucson.
Councilmember Dietz commented
Scottsdale would be a good one to contact as they already have
an ordinance.Oro Valley would be another one.They have a
pretty strict ordinance.
Vice Mayor Eck commented
there are a lot down south; they are way ahead of us.
Councilmember Barker
commented they also had two other possibilities in this package.
They can look at either one.Queen Creek has one.
Councilmember Dietz commented
he liked Queen Creek's resolution.
Councilmember Barker agreed
and she wondered if they could do a little trading where we sign
onto theirs and they sign onto ours.
Vice Mayor Eck commented that
could happen.They are suggesting this to the legislature.He
does not know how it works, but when this is discussed through
the resolutions committee, he assumes they will revise it if
they accept it.
Councilmember Barker asked
what he was talking about.
Vice Mayor Eck commented on
whether it is ours or whether it is Queen Creek's.
Councilmember Barker stated
her point is that they need someone to sign on and Queen Creek
also needs someone to sign onto theirs.
Councilmember Dietz agreed.
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Vice Mayor Eck stated he
understood that.It is just that the resolutions committee may
say that they do not like one part but they like another and
they may combine the two.
Assistant to the City Manager
Ruth Giese stated she understands that they can review the
initial proposal and ask that it be amended or just be rejected.
Councilmember Dietz commented
it is quite a process.
Vice Mayor Eck commented
there are also lobbyists for everything.
Councilmember Barker
commented her question was if they were also interested in
signing on with Queen Creek on theirs.
The consensus was they were.
Councilmember Dietz commented
theirs is really good.
City Manager George Hoffman
commented the city clerk had raised a good question about the
Queen Creek one internally and that is whether or not it applied
to community facilities districts.It is a good question; he
sent an email to Queen Creek today but has not had a response
yet.His assumption is that community facilities districts are
creatures of municipal governments and are therefore probably
excluded, but we need to affirm that.
Councilmember Barker
commented it states with little or no input from cities or
towns.
City Manager George Hoffman
stated he thinks they are excluding community facilities
districts from their consideration of private utilities.If
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they support their resolution tonight, they need to make it
clear that your belief is that it does not include community.
facilities districts.
Vice Mayor Eck commented they
must not have community facilities districts in the Town of
Queen Creek.
Mayor .Insalaco closed the
discussion • with no further comments and called for a motion;
There was general discussion'
on if the .Payson and Queen Creed resolutions would be co-
sponsored.
Councilmember Dietz MOVED
THAT THE FOLLOWING DIRECTION BE GIVEN TO STAFF REGARDING THE
2007 LEAGUE OF ARIZONA CITIES AND TOWNS RESOLUTIONS:THAT WE
SUBMIT THE NATIVE PLANT ORDINANCE TO SCOTTSDALE, ORO VALLEY, AND
WHOEVER ELSE STAFF THINKS COULD BE A CO-SPONSOR ON THIS; THAT WE
CO-SPONSOR THE TOWN OF PAYSON'S RESOLUTION, AND THAT WE CO-
SPONSOR THE TOWN OF QUEEN CREEK'S RESOLUTION AS LONG AS IT DOES•
EXCLUDE THE COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICTS.
Councilmember Barker SECONDED:
THE MOTION.
VOTE:5-1 (Councilmember:Serdy voted in opposition.)
The motion carried.
CARGO CONTAINERS
)Councilmember Seversl
commented he believed he explained everything last night.He:
had some photographs he wanted to show tonight.He also had,
some excerpts from the City of Tempe on the way they worded some
things and what they allow,He also wanted'to propose some
stipulations with what he said last night, regarding things not
necessarily being yes or no, but being allowed with
stipulations.He showed:part of a citation that was given to,an
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Apache .Junction- resident where it said these regulations were
designed to insure property is maintained and kept safe within
the city.He thinks theex-cargo containers would c:To that;
maintain and keep the city safe.They are one of the safest
structures and theipurpose is to maintain peoples' lots.
Regarding the owner/builder, we do currently allow them for a
licensed contractor'while 'building a house or structure in the
city.As an owner/builder :one is allowed to build the home, get
the permits and do your -own plans.He thinks they should be
allowed to use aestorage,facility for the:products -while you are
building.
Mayor Insalaco commented they
could also use their garage.
CouncilmeMber Severs. agreed.
He statedthe current code was adopted JUne.7, 1988.The city'
has grown and changed.He thinks it could -be updated.
ViceMayor Eck asked if it
had been revised since then.
City :Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated it had not.
Vice Mayor Eck .commented he
thought it had just before he got on the council.Anne Surra
was on -the council when it was changed.
Councilmember Severs stated
it was brought up, but•it -was never changed.
Councilmember Barker stated
they never voted -on it.
Councilmember Severs showed
examples of several cargo containers that.have been
decommissioned and.were,no longer cargo containers but now
termed storage containers or structures.He described the
various containers.There were 5 containers on one lot and he
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stated that needs to be regulated.They should not be able to
have a fence made of storage containers.
Councilmember Barker asked
what the purpose of that was.
Councilmember Severs stated
they have a business and they are using them for storage.
business is not in the city.
he thinks it is on the city line.
stated it is west of Meridian.
Mayor Insalaco commented that
Councilmember Severs stated
City Manager George Hoffman
Councilmember Severs stated
it is just past there.He is using it as an example.The
pictures were sent to him and people get confused over where the
county line is.He showed one where he would have preferred the
items outside be stored in the container.
Councilmember Barker stated
they evidently did not have any room in that or they are living
in it.
Councilmember Severs stated
it is actually the neighbor's container.
Vice Mayor Eck commented it
is right on the lot line.
Councilmember Severs stated
that is correct.It should be within the setbacks and it would
be nice to see another one on the neighbor's property with
everything in it to maintain the property values and safety.He
could not tell on an 8' X 20' if it was an aluminum storage shed
or a storage container.He continued to show different
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containers.He commented all of these containers are on large
lots where people may have horses and feed to keep.
Councilmember Wilson had told him they are excellent for feed
because rodents cannot get into them.These could be made more
aesthetically pleasing.There are different stipulations that
could be applied to make this usable.He thinks there is a need
for it or there would not be so many in their community.He got
the stipulations from the secondary structure ordinance that was
passed in March.He listed the eight stipulations.He asked
why a container could be used for construction storage during
construction but not for personal storage.He asked if it could
be allowed if it met all or some of these stipulations.He did
not have a picture of one that was already built with a façade.
He had a gentleman who was going to come and give a presentation
on why people need them and their different uses.Someone who
recently had their house flooded in the community has all of
their undamaged belongings in a storage container.
Councilmember Barker
commented there are not so many; there are only 3 per 1,000
parcels.That is not a whole lot.She sees his point and
understands what he is saying, but they have a small group of .
people who have unknowingly, or knowingly, put illegal
containers on their property.Those folks either knew or did
not know, though they should definitely know now after all this.
She is looking at a trend that scares her.They can have this
small percentage, less than 5%, that does this and then says
change the ordinance because these three out of one thousand
need this.That trend worries her.
Councilmember Serdy stated he
has a storage container with him today.They are not buildings,
they are containers, and he lives in the Royal Palm area with no
homeowners association.He has three of them on his driveway
right now.(Councilmember Serdy showed an approximate 2' x 3'
plastic storage container.)They are used to put shovels and
rakes in and are perfectly legal.If it was 8' X 2.0', he asked
if it would be illegal.He asked where they would draw the line
at what is legal and illegal.
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Vice Mayor Eck stated he
believed it is at over 120 feet.
Councilmember Barker
commented they are talking specifically about cargo containers,
the container specifically a cargo container, not Rubbermaids.
Councilmember Severs stated
they have been decommissioned and are not cargo containers any
more.They have been modified to be used as storage containers.
The City of Tempe defines an accessory structure as a structure
that exceeds the maximum area or height; it shall be considered
an accessory building for the purpose of this code.The maximum
height and area that you do not need a permit for is 10' x 12',
or 120 sq.ft.Anything over that they call an accessory
building for the purpose of their code.
Councilmember Barker
commented he wants to actually reclassify this particular
tontainer and say it is no longer a container but is now a
building.
Councilmember Severs stated
they have already been reclassified.
Councilmember Barker
commented she is talking about in this city.
Councilmember Severs stated
it is a storage container.
Councilmember Barker
commented he wants to reclassify it to a building.
Councilmember Severs stated
he does not.
Vice Mayor Eck commented a
storage container cannot be reclassified to a building.
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Councilmember Severs stated
it is not a. building.They are calling -it an .accessory building
for the purpose of this code or an accessory :structure.
Councilmember Serdy commented
that is why he explaineclaast night that there could not be any
electricity run:to it and :they cannot live in it.
Councilmember Barker stated
that is correct; they cannot live in.any storage building.
Mayor Insalaco stated they
cannot live in any storage building or accessory building.
Councilmember Serdy stated
they can run electricity to them if they need to work in them.
is for a garage.
Mayor Insalaco commented that
Councilmember Barker agreed.
Councilmember Severs stated
they do not allow electricity in these.He added they have
canvas, structures all over this community.Steel poles with
'canvas over.the:top -.of them which can be taken away by the wind
very easily.He considers them a health and safety hazard.
They are a fire:hazard.
Vice Mayor Eck commented they
are not supposed to be in the front yard per the neighborhood
preservation ordinance.They were added in to that ordinance.
Mayor Insalaco.commented.they
use those for covering motor homes and boats.You cannot put a
motor homeor a:boat in this container.
Councilmember Severs
commented they are only 8' wide and 8' tall.
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Councilmember Barker stated
he said last night that they can get them wider than that.
Councilmember Severs stated
you cannot get them wider; they can only get them 8' wide.Some
of them come 9' tall, and they can get them 10', 20', 30' or 40'
long.
Councilmember Barker
commented she misunderstood him.She thought he had said width.
She was seeing a mobile home out there with no windows.
Mayor Insalaco commented.he
has a problem with these popping up all over the city.It will
look like -a railroad yard.Although Councilmember Severs: had
been talking -about facades and everything else, it still has a -
flat roof and it still looks like a boxcar.There are a lot of
small retail,and commercial lots, in the downtown area because of
what the city was or still is and they need storage area.He
could see them if they were contained and screened in the back
where they were not -seen from the road or the side neighbors.
He could see them in commercialbut residential really bothers -
him.
Vice Mayor Eck commented he
went and talked to the other groups they work with.One was the.,
Chamber of Commerce.They about rolled over in anger to even
think that we would consider them.He asked what they thought
if the council considered them in special areas only with proper
screening.They were okay with that because they understood the
need.He personally thinks in an emergency situation, such as a
flood, fire, or even moving, the owner/builder should have the
same rights as a licensed contractor as far as the building -of a
home.The business group commented they are trying to bring the
southwestern look into the beautiful community and the city is
going against exactly what the city is telling them they would
like them to do.The trend that he has seen in the last 5 years
is the twenty- to thirty -year -old mobile home is no longer
there.Now they have a $500,000 to $700,000 beautiful custom
home on the acre -and -a -quarter, especially on these larger lots.
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They do not want to look over on a cargo container.He thinks
the cargo containers in those areas is a backward step.The
council has done other things to try to assist them like
allowing the garage to be built first.Previously you had to
have your home built before you could build the garage.Now the
garage can be built first and used as a storage facility while
they build their home.There is no time frame on that.There
are some areas where he thinks they belong, but they are mostly
commercial, schools and churches.They still need to be
properly screened.
Councilmember Severs stated
they are still missing the point that the neighbor does not have
to look over at a shipping container.
Vice Mayor Eck commented that
is his opinion.
Councilmember Severs stated
they can write the ordinance so that they do not look like a
shipping container any more.There is a way to have both.
People could have the safest and most secure storage there is
and it would not have to look like a shipping container.They
put stipulations on everything there is.They put 8
stipulations on a metal building.The only difference between
this and a metal building is that this is stronger.
Vice Mayor Eck commented it
is also not considered a building.
Councilmember Severs stated
that is correct.They could make this look like a storage shed.
He has a storage shed on his property that is the ugliest thing
anyone has ever seen.He asked if a neighbor would rather look
at that or a storage container that has been made to look nice
with a façade on it and that is stuccoed to match the house.
There are ways to have both.
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Councilmember Serdy commented
these would obviously not work in every area of town, such as
his neighborhood.They would only be on horse properties.
Vice Mayor Eck commented that
is his concern.Not all horse properties are just the old
doublewides any more.There are several hundred thousand dollar
custom homes.And that is the trend.
Councilmember Severs
commented he knows of an almost million dollar home in the
community that has a storage container next to it.
Vice Mayor Eck commented then
they are out of compliance, and if he were the neighbor he would
be mad as hell.
Councilmember Severs
commented they have a need for it.
Mayor Insalaco commented if
they have the money to build that kind of home, they should
build a nice storage unit.They could be here all night on
this.
Councilmember Severs
commented he was hoping to have staff draft up a sample
ordinance.A sample ordinance change could be written allowing
the use of storage containers if certain stipulations were met,
for example, facades matching the main dwelling, being
aesthetically enhanced, and in the side and rear yards only.If
they could write up something like that, it would not be a
shipping container.
There was general discussion
on it being time to.make a motion.
Councilmember Severs asked if
there was public input on this tonight.
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City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated there is not.
Councilmember Severs asked
when it would come back for public input.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated it would have to be in ordinance form to come back for a
public hearing.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated he could direct staff to create a new ordinance, or
define different things he would like in the ordinance and come
back on a new date which could be made date specific.
Councilmember Severs stated
he does not want to do a new ordinance yet.He wanted staff to
write up a sample of how this could be made to work so it does
not look like a storage container or a shipping container, such
as coming up with 8 different stipulations that are met.He
does not understand the problem here.If he had the one he
wanted in his yard, no one would ever know that it was a
shipping container at one time.It would be one of the best-
looking storage sheds in the city and it would last forever.
Unlike the canvas that blows away and his 10 -year -old wooden
shed that is rotting away.He does not understand the
difference.They are talking about maintaining property and
keeping the city safe; this fits into that description.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated the one thing Councilmember Severs put on the overhead
referencing keeping the city safe is not part of the original
ordinance.She does not know where that came from.She knows
what was shown, but apparently somewhere someone added that.If
one reads the old minutes, the council's intention was to
discontinue the use of them because they considered them to be
blight.
Councilmember Dietz commented
he would hate to see the city go backwards.
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Mayor Insalaco closed the
discussion with no further comments and called for ra motion.
Councilmember Severs MOVED
THAT THE FOLLOWING DIRECTION BE GIVEN TO STAFF REGARDING CARGO
CONTAINERS:THAT A SAMPLE ORDINANCE CHANGE BE WRITTEN UP
ALLOWING THE USE OF STORAGE CONTAINERS IF STIPULATIONS BE MET.
EXAMPLE:FACADES MATCHING THE MAIN BUILDING, AESTHETICALLY
ENHANCING THEM, AND ONLY PUTTING THEM IN THE SIDE OR REAR YARDS.
Councilmember Serdy SECONDED
THE MOTION.
VOTE:(Mayor Insalaco, Vice Mayor Eck and Councilmember
Barker voted in opposition.)
The motion failed.
Councilmember Barker
commented she would not like to see staff spend their time
writing. a "sample" at this point; they have so much on their
plates right now.If they are -seriously considering a change in
the ordinance or writing a new -ordinance, that is different.To
write a sample isa waste of theirrtime.That is why she voted
rno.
Vice Mayor Eck commented he
thought Councilmember Severs did a -ton of research and effort
and he commended'him -for that.There is just a difference in
opinion He added he had a motion.
Mayor Insalaco called:for his
motion.
Vice Mayor Eck MOVED THAT THE
FOLLOWING DIRECTION BE GIVEN TO STAFF REGARDING CARGO
CONTAINERS:THAT THEY RECOMMEND CHANGES TO ORDINANCE,NO..630 TO
ALLOW -THE USE OF SHIPPING/CARGO CONTAINERS ON COMMERCIAL,
INDUSTRIAL, PUBLIC AND QUASI -PUBLIC PROPERTIES, SUBJECT TO
PROPER SCREENING AND LOCATION REQUIREMENTS; AND, IF NOT IN
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THERE, THAT THE OWNER/BUILDER SHOULD BE IN THERE; AND THAT IT
WOULD BE ANY LOCATION FOR A TEMPORARY BASIS.
City Attorney Joel Stern
asked what he meant by proper screening.
Vice Mayor Eck made a new
motion, MOVING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL.DIRECT .STAFF TO RECOMMEND_
CHANGES TO ORDINANCE NO..630 TO ALLOW FOR A MAXIMUM OF TWO
SHIPPING/CARGO CONTAINERS ON COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, PUBLIC AND
QUASI -PUBLIC PROPERTIES SUBJECT TO SCREENING AND LOCATION
REQUIREMENTS, OWNER AND BUILDER SHOULD BE INCLUDED.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
asked what he considered screening, and if it would be chain
link.
Vice Mayor Eck AMENDED HIS
MOTION TO ADD SIMILAR TO A GARBAGE CONTAINER WHERE THERE IS A
CEMENT BLOCK WALL AROUND 3 SIDES WITH A GATED FRONT.
Councilmember Severs
commented the property.maintenance standards do not require.a
block wall, just screening so that it is not visible.
Vice Mayor Eck commented he
would consider this screening to be a block wall around the
container unless there is something else that is compatible, but
he is not aware of It is the agreement he got
from Main Street, the Chamber and the business community.It is
not as much as what Councilmember Severs wanted to- get done, but
it is some of what he wanted to get accomplished, and he -should
commend himself -on that.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
asked if he wanted .them to allow for emergency situations, -such
as floods and things like that.
Vice Mayor Eck AMENDED HIS
MOTION TO ADD .EMERGENCY SITUATIONS -ON -TEMPORARY BASIS WOULD BE
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ALLOWED ON ANY LOCATION.He asked if there were setback issues
and if there is any other screening allowed other than a masonry
block wall.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
asked if he was looking at oleanders.
Vice Mayor Eck commented he
did not want oleanders.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
commented they could put language in there to have them comply
with accessory building type of setbacks.If they are going
with the provision that is very similar to how they treat trash
enclosures, then Ordinance No. 940 calls for trash enclosures
and possibly storage containers to be screened on 3 sides with a
masonry wall at a minimum of 6' in height and that it have a
gated front.
Vice Mayor Eck commented that
is what he is looking for.Councilmember Severs is saying the
containers are 8' and an 8' wall would start an engineering
issue.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated it could be an engineered wall.
Vice Mayor Eck asked if that
would bring it to a .higher cost level.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated that would be more than likely.
Vice Mayor Eck commented that
was not his intent.
Councilmember Severs asked if
that is for the temporary ones
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Vice Mayor Eck stated it
could be for the temporary or the permanent.
Councilmember Severs stated
if they are only allowed for temporary, the people would
probably not go through the expense of building an 8' engineered
wall.
Vice Mayor Eck commented
temporary is a side issue; those are only due to an emergency.
That is his intent.
Building Official Dennis
Dixon commented it can easily be a standard, engineered detail
for a block wall; they are real common.It is not a big deal.
Vice Mayor Eck asked if it is
not an additional, huge expense to build a 6' wall.
Building Official Dennis
Dixon stated it is not.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
asked if he wanted them to be allowed outright or will there be
a permit process.
Vice Mayor Eck commented he
believed there was a -permit process-.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated from the audience that he believed there was.
There was general discussion
on whether there was a permit process.
Building Official -Dennis
Dixon stated there would be one for building the wall.
Councilmember Dietz asked if
there was one for the containers.
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City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated there is not one currently and they are not proposing
one.
Vice Mayor Eck commented
because of the screening issue it needs to be required through a
permit process.They will need a permit for the wall to screen
it properly, but because the container might show up, he AMENDED
HIS MOTION TO ADD THROUGH A PERMIT PROCESS.
Councilmember Severs stated
it would have to go through a permit process to make sure it is
within the setbacks in a buildable area.
Vice Mayor Eck asked what
language was really needed.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
commented in order to confirm that they are within the setbacks,
there might need to be a permit process.
Vice Mayor Eck agreed.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
asked if these could be placed on vacant lots.
Vice Mayor Eck stated they
could not.
Councilmember Severs asked
what would be considered a vacant lot.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated it would be .one .on which there is not a business.
Councilmember Severs asked
what if there is a building permit issued.
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City_Clerk.aathleen Connelly
stated that it would already be covered:under that other
section.
Vice Mayor Eck stated that
would be okay.
City Manager George Hoffman
asked if there were any other data or policy direction that
staff needed from the council in drafting what is being
considered.
Senior Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated he understands that staff is to draft an _ordinance to
allow storage containers on commercial, industrial, public and
quasi -public properties _subject to location and screening
requirements;. to alsO allow them in cases of :emergency for
itemporary purposes, along with the provisions the ordinance
:already allows. -
Vice Mayor EckI commented
owner/builder: will be included.
:Senior 'Planner. Rudy Esquivias
:commented ownerlbuilderNtiill.be includeci:and.:it would be subject
ito a simpIe.siteHpIanHreView .process..
'Vice Mayor Eck, agreed-.
•Mayor Insalaco,commentedHthey -
mould not need'an:8 _wall fon.temporary -purposes, for a:flOod:or
something like that.•
:Senior Planner_RUdy Esquivias
'stated they would :not.The ones located1oehind churches or
businesseswouldreqUire the waIL
Building Official Dennis
Dixon asked what time period they would consider reasonable for
an emergency.
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There wasgeneral discussion
on the number ofdays.to be allowed.
Vide Mayor Eck AMENDED HIS
MOTION: TO READ TEMPORARY STORAGE CONTAINERS MAY BE.ON A PROPERTY
DUE TO AN EMERGENCY FOR A MAXIMUM OF 60 DAYS.
commented there
someone's house
rebuild a hbuse
Councilmember Severs
should be extensions allowed for reasons_If:
burns down it may take more than 60 days to
Vice Mayor Eck commented if
he started up with stipulations he would not know which way to
turn.
Cbuncilmember Barker
:commented when they start building the house, they would be able
,toYhaVe,it .there:anyway -because' that.ielloart of the construction
,process.It is Already -taken care of.
City Manager George Hoffman
asked when they would'aike to have this back.
:next meeting
,did not want
them as. soon:
motion_
N'ice,14ayor. Eck suggested-the-
AvlayorInsalaco commented:he
it at the next meeting.: They could get back to.
as.they -,can.. He then called.':for -a second tb -the:
-Councilmember Severs SECONDED
THE MOTION.
VOTE:Unanirhous
The motion carried.
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SELECTION OF MEETING DATES, TIMES, LOCATIONS, AND PURPOSES
Councilmember Dietz MOVED
THAT AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 6:00 P.M. AND A WORK SESSION AT
7:00 P.M. BE HELD ON MONDAY, JULY 2, 2007, IN THE CITY COUNCIL
CONFERENCE ROOM AND CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, RESPECTIVELY; AND
THAT AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 6:00 P.M. BE HELD ON TUESDAY, JULY
3, 2007, IN THE CITY COUNCIL CONFERENCE ROOM.
Vice Mayor Eck SECONDED THE
MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
ADJOURNMENT
)Mayor Insalaco adjourned
the meeting at 9:50 p.m.
Consent Agenda Items are as follows:
1. Acceptance of Agenda.
2. Acceptance of Minutes of Regular Meeting of June 5, 2007.
3. Approval of Award of Bid PW 2007-07:Paving Materials.
4. Approval of Award of Bid to Jillotti Electric Service Co.,
Inc. for Traffic Signal Maintenance.,
-5. Approval :of Award of Bid of Contract to Sunland Asphalt.
6. Approval of Resolution No. 07-21:Authority to submit a
Transportation Equity Act for 21st Century (TEA -21) Grant
Application.
7. Approval of SD -2-06 (Villagio Subdivison):Request for Time
Extension to Submit Final Subdivision Plat by Cliff Axt.
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8. Consideration of intergovernmental agreement with the State
of Arizona (Arizona Department of Revenue) for tax
collection purposes.
ACCEPTED THIS 17TH DAY OF JULY, 2007, BY THE MAYOR AND CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF APACHE JUNCTION, ARIZONA.
SIGNED AND ATTESTED TO THIS 17TH DAY OF JULY, 2007.
ATTEST:
KATHLEEN CONNELLY
City Clerk
HN S. INSALACO
Mayor
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and
correct copy of the minutes of the regular meeting of the City
Council of the City of Apache Junction, Arizona, held on the
19th day of June, 2007.I further certify that the meeting was
duly called and held and that a quorum was present.
Dated this 29th day of June, 2007.
KATHLEEN CONNELLY
City Clerk
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