HomeMy WebLinkAbout2007-07-09 City Council Special MinutesCITY COUNCIL
SPECIAL MEETING
JULY 9, 2007
The special meeting of the City Council of the City of
Apache Junction, Arizona, was held on July 9, 2007, at the
Apache Junction City Council Chambers pursuant to the notice
required by law.
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Insalaco called the meeting to order at 5:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Councilmembers Present:Mayor Insalaco
Vice Mayor Eck
Councilmember Barker
Councilmember Dietz
Councilmember Serdy
Councilmember Severs
Councilmember Wilson
Staff Present:
Others Present:
City Manager George Hoffman
Assistant City Manager Bryant Powell
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
City Attorney Joel Stern
Library Director Pam Loui
Finance Director Keith Lewis
Public Works Director Doug Dobson
Development Svcs. Director Brad Steinke
Business Advocate Janine Hanna-Solley
Economic Dev. Dir. Steve Filipowicz
Captain Tom Kelly
150 city employees
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DISCUSSION ON FINAL BUDGET FOR
FISCAL YEAR 2007-2008
)City Manager George
Hoffman briefed the council on the item.He read a letter from
city employees that he wished to have incorporated into the
minutes.The letter is as follows:
"July 9, 2007, Honorable Mayor and Councilmembers, the
classification and Compensation Team appreciates your
allowing us to provide you with information and a
recommendation on compensation and we hope to continue
to do so in the future.
City employees would like to formally thank you for your
generosity in giving us a general increase, the market
adjustment and step on classification date.
The Classification and Compensation Team worked hard to
provide a recommendation that would ensure external
competitiveness as well as internal equity.As a team,
we discussed compression across the entire organization
and felt that it should be addressed for all.Both the
team and city employees are disappointed that only three
position titles within the organization will have the
compression issue addressed.
In closing, we would like to again thank you for your
consideration and trust in us as city employees.
Sincerely,"
He added that there were additional pages of employee signatures
attached, and that it was the same as what had been distributed
at the council seats earlier this day.He then stated the city
attorney had some position changes that were not previously
listed and would address the council on those.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated the assistant city attorney is still listed; they had
talked about taking that off and creating a legal assistant I
and a legal assistant II.He would also like to delete the
half-time secretarial position.It would save the city $58,000.
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Councilmember Barker asked
what page he was on.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated he is on page 23 of the green sheets.
Councilmember Dietz commented
he recalled discussing that but they had decided to leave it as
is right now until they decided which way they were going to go.
They wanted it left in the budget.It does not mean they would
have to do .that.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated the dollar amount would not have to change.The budget
has already been approved at that dollar amount.He is only
asking that the titles be changed.
Councilmember Dietz commented
he understands that.
Vice Mayor Eck asked if they
could increase the budget once the tentative budget has been
approved.
City Manager George Hoffman
stated they could not for the city.For other districts that is
not necessarily the case.
Vice Mayor Eck asked when it
was approved.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated it was approved on June 25, 2007.She believes it is
within the fund.
City Manager George Hoffman
asked if she was specifically speaking about the city attorney's
office.Any changes to his office were contemplated in that.
Vice Mayor Eck commented he
was not; he was speaking because of this room.He would like to
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see about making some changes, but that would be an increase in
budget.He asked how they would do that.
City Manager George Hoffman
asked the finance director if they could take money from one
allocation or capital fund and use it for operating expenditures
or eliminate a contingency budget and put it into the
departmental budgets, or allocate for certain contingency
expense.
Finance Director Keith Lewis
stated they could do it in contingency.
City Manager George Hoffman
asked if they could spend their capital money if they wanted to.
Finance Director Keith Lewis
stated that is not budgeted in that respect.The money would
still be there although it is not being used for capital.They
could not transfer that money to increase the budget.It would
have to be the contingency fund that is set up in
nondepartmental.
City Manager George Hoffman
asked how much is in the contingency fund.
Finance Director Keith Lewis
stated there is $800,000 in contingency.
City Manager George Hoffman
stated they have $400,000 allocated for growth issues.
Finance Director Keith Lewis
stated that is correct.
Vice Mayor Eck commented that
would leave $400,000.
Finance Director Keith Lewis
stated there is $817,000 in contingency.It is on page 25, line
item 58.The $17,000 is there for a project for Councilmember
Dietz; it has been left there for it to be used at a later date
if he decides to do that project.They would have to vote on
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transferring the $800,000 to wherever.The $400,000 in growth
opportunities could be voted on and put in another area.It
would have to come from the council because growth
opportunities, although it is listed separately, is part of the
contingency fund.
Vice Mayor Eck commented he
has a primary concern about the organization.He sees this
turnout and to him they need to do something to try to fix this
problem.We cannot have this many people upset with the system.
It is too much of a morale issue for him.He knows there have
been increases in a cost of living adjustment and a step.They
do not know what the valuation fund is going to be.Obviously,
he has never seen anything like this in 10 years.He ran for
council for the people; the people in this organization and the
citizens.They need to figure out something.He is open to
suggestions.
Councilmember Serdy asked if
there was a morale issue a few weeks ago.
Vice Mayor Eck commented he
thinks when they did the compression issue with just one portion
of the organization, which is very much a necessity, it probably
stems from what is going on tonight since it is not across the
board.He does not know what to do, but he hears the topped out
people get tired of being topped out.There is no increase
there.There is no evaluation happening so they still do not
get increases from evaluations.He cannot imagine having an
organization this unhappy.
Councilmember Severs
commented he thinks there is a lot of misunderstanding going
around that because they are trying to focus on these 3
positions that we are having a very difficult time filling; that
we do not care about the other departments, employees or staff.
That is absolutely untrue.It has already been stated by our
finance people that there is no way in the world that we can
take care of the compression issue across the organization.We
just do not have the money.There is no physically possible way
for us to do it.He stated he had in front of him a paper he
requested today.The issue is that it takes so long to hire
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of competition, it evolves into supply and demand.When you
have that, the cost increases.We know that all of the city
employees are valuable.We know that they help us in daily
issues and the certainly help prepare the city for the future.
We know that the compensation study will bring these employees
to the mid -range plus 3% plus the anniversary raise.All that
is pretty nice; it comes to seven plus percent.As a teacher
she wishes she could get even half of that, but that is beside
the point.She knows that some employees are going to be at the
same or very close to that of a new employee in the same
position and she does not like that.She knows they do not
either.However, other costs like health insurance, etc., have
been kept as stable as possible.The fact is, the city simply
does not have an unlimited amount of money with which to fund
raises.Those are the facts they have to work with and it is
their job to consider those and then to consider the 30,000 plus
people who contribute to the general fund which pays those
raises.It is their job to consider it not just for today, and
not just for this year, but long term.How will it impact us as
a community long term.It will not be an easy decision.They
will not please all the people.That will not happen, but that
is their job, and that is what they get paid the big bucks for.
Bear with them.They have looked at all this and stressed over
all this.When the decision comes through, bear with them and
understand that they hear you.They appreciate the letter that
they took the time to write to them.She thanked them for that.
Councilmember Dietz commented
he brought it up during the budget meetings how they could take
care of the rest of the organization which he really feels they
need to do.However, it came back at a seven -figure cost to do
the compression for the entire organization which we do not
have.Seven figures on top of the 4.3 for the entire
organization.He agreed that public safety is very important
and it needs to be brought up to speed.He does not know how
they could take a couple of hundred thousand dollars and pick a
few other areas to take care of compression.He really feels
that on the next budget round that this is something very
serious that they have to take care of for the rest of the
organization.They need'to take care of the people that are
here and have been here for years and years.
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Councilmember Serdy commented
he thinks the veteran police officers were patient for several
years while we worked on this.
Councilmember Dietz commented
so was the rest of the organization on top of that.
Councilmember Serdy commented
he thinks the tax money is going to be down this year the way
WalMart is hurting.He would ask the other city employees to be
patient until we can get some other shopping centers going and
then be a little more like Mesa and Scottsdale and work on it
every year and try to bump it up when we can.
Vice Mayor Eck commented that
is what he heard in 1996 when he was an employee for the city.
Councilmember Serdy stated we
do not have those shopping centers yet.
Vice Mayor Eck commented he
feels it is obvious that we are going to create a line between
us and them.It is the worst he has ever experienced in his ten
years.That is his concern.
Councilmember Barker
commented she would like to see this not continue to happen.
She would prefer that we not continue to look at specific jobs
from this point onward, that we look at the entire organization.
If we make this adjustment today, she would like to see them not
continue to just adjust for single positions from this point on.
Councilmember Severs
commented they need to be fair to everybody.It is not just the
police department that I feel is more important or anything like
that.That is not it at all.Going back to the list, the
police network administrator had only 4 applicants.They have
57 applicants on file for a police records clerk.Those are
positions that we have applications for and they are easy to
fill.They are talking about the people that are out on the
street protecting each and every one of us, whether it be while
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we are at work, shopping or at home.These are almost emergency
situations.
PUBLIC HEARING:PROPOSED FINAL
BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2007-2008 )
)Mayor Insalaco opened the
public hearing on the item.
Mr. Steve Kridler, police
department, addressed the council.He stated currently the
police department is the lowest paid in the valley.That is
part of the reason we are not able to attract and retain new
officers, specifically laterals.They are not going to come
here because the money just is not there.When you have
departments such as Scottsdale who are going to be starting
officers out making $51,000 a year as opposed to our officers
starting in the $40,000 range, it is hard to compete with that.
That is part of the problem.Right now, in patrol division, we
are close to 50% under what we should be.That is not the whole
organization, just patrol.They have a lot of people working
overtime and people are starting to get tired now because they
have been working so much overtime to compensate for their being
undermanned.He does not recall the exact population of the
city now but he based his figures at 35,000.They have 3 to 4
officers per shift.That ratio of citizens to officers is about
8,700 citizens to one officer.That is a bad ratio.Most
cities throughout the country are at 5,000 or less.Most of
them target at about 2,000 citizens per officer.We are way out
of curve.As has already been discussed, as far as the time to
get an officer it takes to get an officer recruited, academy
trained, field trained and off probation, it takes approximately
a year to 18 months.That is another one of their issues with
getting people there.They have people leave.They have not
had the push in the past to get people to replace those
positions that are vacated.Hopefully the dollar amount will
bring people in and make us competitive with the other
organizations throughout the valley.
Ms. Jackie Trevino, human
resources, addressed the council.She commented that sworn
positions below the rank of corporal total 37, with 4 being in
the academy and 6 are vacant.There are 10 positions that are
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not filled and not on the street.There are 27 people there,
which means we have 27% vacancies if you include the 4 people in
the academy who are not vacancies.
Mr. Matt McNulty, 3264 S.
Conestoga, Apache Junction, addressed the council.He works in
the public information office.He stated when he first heard
about this as a rumor he thought about how to argue it.It is
hard to argue when he knows a lot of the people in the police
department and they are outstanding individuals.They have had
a tough couple of years, and having been a citizen of this
community for 22 years, he knows it has been tough.It has been
tough for him.He hopes the council has not set a dangerous
precedent in dealing with this issue with the contingency fund.
He hopes they have not set a dangerous precedent dealing with an
individual section of a department.He requested they try not
to fractionalize a department, not to mention what may or may
not happen with the rest of us.He appreciated what the
employees are getting.He knows that the next couple of years
will be tough before the land down south opens up.Mesa has big
plans and it has a lot to do with this and the other issues of
encroachment on our area.He asked that they continue to be
outstanding individuals and vote what you think is best for the
city.
Mayor Insalaco commented that
Councilmember Barker already mentioned that this will be the
first and last time this will probably be done.He cannot speak
for councils in the future, but he believes most of them feel
that way.We had to bite the bullet and do something when you
have residents out there complaining that it takes 2.5 hours to
get someone there to take care of a problem.They cannot allow
that to happen.
Ms. Kathy Maya, community
member, addressed the council.She stated she does not think
that everybody in the audience is here because of the increase.
She thinks a lot of them there are here to show support for a
lot of the decisions that have been made, the things that have
been put into the tentative budget that was approved a few weeks
ago.There is a lot of focus on why they should do this to
these 3 positions, but in her eyes, she sees it as something
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that will benefit the entire community because the growth that
is planned for Apache Junction is massive.They will need
another force to provide a community that they can all live in.
She wants to live in a community that is safe and that she can
have pride in.She does not want graffiti and crime, and wants
to be able to drive to her job safely.They need the manpower
to do that.
Ms. Elaine Jones, 5504 S.
Jacaranda, Gold Canyon, addressed the council.She commented
that Councilmember Severs mentioned several positions in the
police department that are difficult to fill.Public Works has
the same problem.They have been trying to fill the position of
traffic signal technician for several years.We do not pay
enough so they cannot find one.They want more officers out on
the streets.She asked if they realize who is responsible for
building those streets.The public works people are out on the
streets daily.They are in traffic; they are also in danger.
She wanted to let them know that she does not think it is fair.
Ms. Denise Moulson, city
clerk's office, addressed the council.She stated she keeps
hearing the word Scottsdale.We do not live in Scottsdale and
Scottsdale has a different income bracket.The cost of living
is much higher in that city.We live in Apache Junction.She
does not drive a brand new car nor have a big, fancy house.
What she has is hers and she is very proud of it.She is proud
of working for the city and believes in the city council.She
believes in the people she works with and that everyone will
stand behind everyone and make this all work.She would like to
have a new car; it will come in time, just like the city's
growth, the employees, the police department and the raises.
Ms. Theryn Hansen, 10143 E.
Wood Avenue, Mesa, addressed the council.She stated she has
been an employee of almost 23 years.She thanked the members of
the council for running to help this city become what it needs
to become.But, as an employee who has been topped out for many
years, she has watched her take home pay personally go down and
down and down.She brings home less money every year.She
thinks that the growth will be important for our future.
Officers are important, but all the city employees are
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important.We will be designing, inspecting, building and
supervising the building of the development to the south of us.
It is not just one department that will be affected.She thinks
they need to look with equity at the whole staff structure, and
not just concentrate on certain areas.She believes it needs to
be broader based; that the whole picture needs to be looked at.
Ms. Taleen Carpenter, 2146 E.
29th Avenue, Apache Junction, addressed the council.She has
worked for the city for 8 years and loves working here.It is
not Scottsdale and she does not want to live in Scottsdale.If
she wanted to live in Scottsdale she would.She likes Apache
Junction for its charm and quietness.She likes her neighbors
and friends.When thinking about the growth of the city, the
entire unit which is the city has to be kept in mind.She
understands the need of the police department and the stresses
of their job.That is a personal choice when they choose to
enter that profession, just like she is a tax person.She chose
tax; that is her choice of profession.There are not a lot of
places for her to go in the state; because of what she does she
is underpaid.She appreciates what the council is doing for the
city and she does not want it to be underappreciated.But when
we talk about the city, the team, Project SOAR, teamwork,
choosing and wanting to be there, when we are not treated the
same, we do not feel the same.
Corporal Thom Parker, police
department, addressed the council.He is a third generation
native of this area.He thanked them for their support of all
the members of the police department.He also lives in the
city.He has watched Mesa, Gilbert and Chandler grow.He has
learned from their mistakes.One of the biggest mistakes the
Town of Gilbert had was growing too fast.They had to do a
growth freeze because public safety could not keep up with
everything.When the growth spurt comes, it will be the police
department's responsibility to make sure the properties are
safe.Copper is in high demand among tweakers and burglars and
they get more reports of those thefts every night because they
do not have enough officers to protect those businesses and
community members.He appreciates their support but asked that
they learn from Gilbert.On Thursday News 15 did a news article
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on the shortage of officers nationwide.He hoped some of them
watched that.
Vice Mayor Eck stated it was
Friday.
Corporal Thom Parker stated
it was a great article.They held to an extremely high
standard; the chief will not take someone who barely makes
standard.He makes sure they get the candidates they need to
safeguard the community.He has worked in the schools, on the
streets and has done volunteer work.He annually goes to
Washington, D.C. to honor the families of fallen police
officers.He asked that they to D.C. during that week and
listen to the family survivors of fallen officers.They have
the nationwide shortage because no one wants to do this job.
America is more violent than it used to be.He asked that they
take all that into consideration so that they can fill these
positions.
Mayor Insalaco closed the
public hearing with no one else wishing to speak.He reopened
the item to council discussion.
Vice Mayor Eck commented he
really thinks they have to come up with some solution.Their
words mean nothing; it is their actions that do.They have to
make some effort to take care of the organization as a whole.
The police department thing will happen.He asked what is going
to happen for the rest of the organization..
'Councilmember Barker asked
him to give them some suggestions.
Vice 'Mayor Eck suggested they
not take a vote tonight, leave it open and do some research.
Councilmember Barker stated
she did not believe they could do that.It is state law.
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Vice Mayor Eck suggested they
take the money out of the thing or give them extra holidays or
days off if they are topped out.They have to make some effort.
Mayor Insalaco asked if
taking $200,000 of the $800,000 would do anything sufficient.
City Manager George Hoffman
asked if he meant employees would employees be appreciative of
that amount being spread out over them, he thinks they would, as
contrasted with getting zero.
Mayor Insalaco asked if it
would be enough for them to get where they are not losing money
year after year with the raises, insurance and everything else.
He asked if that would do anything.
City Manager George Hoffman
stated there are many niche problems in the organization.If he
is concerned about topped out employees, he needs to understand
that their action towards officers, corporals and sergeants
will, in the near future, exacerbate that problem.He is
confident that all the blue shirts out there will say it is not
a problem, go ahead and pass it.It is only when you get topped
out that you get concerned about being topped out.Public
sector organizations tend to have pay ranges which people move
through by seniority.At some point they are topped out.It is
unlikely a janitor will ever make $100,000 a year.A city
manager is unlikely to make $1,000,000 a year.There are simply
maximums for every position and people bump up against them.
Health insurance costs have gone up around the nation and we
have not escaped that.We are blessed with having a retirement
program, but the comments that those percentages in
contributions for the employees and the organization have gone
up are true.
Councilmember Severs
commented that they are saying the $300,000 is needed to fix the
compression issue for these 3 positions.He asked if they could
do another department with the $800,000.
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Assistant City Manager Bryant
Powell stated for clarification, they did an analysis on all the
rest of the city departments regarding compression.It would be
$774,332 to implement acrosS:the:entire organization.It is
still a significant chunk of net new dollars to try to deal with
the compression issue across the organization.In the 6 years
of doing the budget, it is typically what they do each year.
This year-we have done $1..2 million plus the $300,000.That is
a significant increase to the base when you are talking about a
$20 million base in the General Fund.It would be difficult to
manage.
Councilmember Barker
commented she would hate to drain the contingency fund.It is
the thing that stands between them and not being able to pay
anybody if something happens.
City .Manager .George Hoffman
stated he is moved that the council woilld'be desirous of doing
something across the organization.He reiterated that he is
very cautious about the future Bryant just tried to reference
it.Salary is the 'gift that keeps on .giving.This year they
added to the base and if they try to keep the step for most
employees that means :another 4.33 percent next year.He thinks,
as Matt McNulty referenced, that window between nowand when the
new state land getsgoing will have the city facing the
competition that Councilmember Serdy referenced,He believes
they will bein for a tough couple of years.This is.a:good
year and councilhas been generous with the employees.He
certainly would not tell you that they could make meaningful
strides on the compression issue next year.They, will'have ,to
wait and seeAaow the money comes in.
Vice Mayor Eck asked how many
employeeswould:only be receiving a cost of living adjustment.
They would be topped out employees; otherwise they are
compression issues.
City Manager George Hoffman
stated the topped out employee is someone who is beyond the
maximum of their pay range, of which he believes they have two
positions.
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Councilmember Severs asked
which departments they would pick for the betterment of the
citizens of this community if they did drain the contingency
fund and they were able to fix maybe 2 or 3 departments.He
added it is not about what.we want, what they want as a council
or as employees, it is about what is best for the citizens of
our community.
Mayor Insalaco stated they
have been struggling with this for months.
City Manager George Hoffman
stated it has been a multi -year struggle.One of our 25 -year
plus department directors stated they would be moving to step A
of their pay range.
Vice Mayor Eck commented that
is the way it works if their pay range is going up, as long as
they are getting an increase in dollars.
City Manager George Hoffman
stated for many years they treated the department directors
separately and did do as well by them as they did with the rest
of the organization -.That is how you can have 27 and 25 year
employees at the start of their pay range.We are in an
aggressive metropolitan market.The council has put us in
against some very aggressive pay competitors, such as Chandler
and Gilbert.They are running with some of the highest -powered
economies in the state ,with this labor market.It gives him
great anxiety trying to keep up with it.
Councilmember Severs
commented it gives him great pleasure in not being up there.
City Manager George Hoffman
stated the vice mayor looked at him like go ahead and reach for
your hat and pull the rabbit out of your hat.He does not have
a rabbit in his hat.
Councilmember Barker
commented there is no rabbit this year.
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Vice Mayor Eck commented they
used to do something for the topped out employees.They are the
ones that are not getting something.The others are going to
get something and they might have the compression issue that we
cannot address this year, but they could do something for the
topped out ones.
City Manager George Hoffman
stated they could.At some point they need to have a discussion
about where they want to be in the market, which market they
want to have, and what it means to be topped out.If they do
not mean topped out, if it means topped out plus $1,000, then
they get the $1,000, but not $1,001.They need to have a
discussion on what it means to be topped out.It means drawing
a line.They need to have an awareness that someone will always
bump up against that line and not be able to go past it, whether
it is topped out or topped out plus $1,000.He is not arguing
against it; they just need to have a very basic discussion.
Councilmember Dietz asked if
the 4.3 move.
City Manager George Hoffman
stated if you have a pay range that is 9 steps, they can move
each year through that pay range from the start to the end.
Councilmember Dietz commented
the 4.3 does not really move the top.It is the cost of living
adjustment.
City Manager George Hoffman
stated the cost of living adjustment will move that whole range
and the step moves you within the range.What the vice mayor is
talking about is when they are bumped up against the top, they
have nowhere to go.The market does not move every position.
The market is moving a lot for officers right now; it is not
moving so much for others.They could wait for a 2 -year market
adjustment and not have anything happen.
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Councilmember Dietz commented
the employees that are topped out will at least get a 3%
increase.
Assistant City Manager Bryant
Powell stated that is correct.
Councilmember Serdy commented
he wanted them to remember that during the whole election he did
not want to run.He got talked into it.When he did run, he
ran on being a pro -business and pro -development candidate.Why
it ties in, and until they get it in there, is he hopes that in
5 years they will never have this problem.It would be
wonderful.He thinks they will see this council voting to allow
a lot more growth.If anyone questions their votes and why they
are allowing this, it is because we need this income.He wants
to help everyone by getting the growth and tax money in there so
that they can easily address it like Mesa and the towns that are
booming.There is no reason why we cannot be booming like them.
Hopefully it steamrolls and in 5-7 years we will never have this
problem.Gilbert and Chandler will be saying Apache Junction is
booming and look at what they are doing out there and
developing.He thinks that is the solution.If it is run like
a household business, you would go and get a second job.He is
not saying these people should get a second job.We are the
breadwinners here and we need to generate money so that we can
give it to our family which is out here in the audience.It is
up to the council to bring the money in so that they have more
money to work with.
Councilmember Barker asked
the city attorney which positions he wanted changed.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated they should delete the secretary which is a .5 position
and the assistant city attorney position.They need to add one
legal assistant I and one legal assistant II.
Councilmember Barker listed
the positions that should then be in the city attorney's office.
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City Attorney Joel Stern
stated he thought she missed one legal assistant that is
currently there.He will be adding two positions; a legal
assistant I and a legal assistant II.
Councilmember Barker stated
that is to the one that is already there.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated that is correct.
Vice Mayor Eck commented they
do not have the answer this year to please the entire
organization.But they can add a one year bonus to our topped
out employees.
City Manager George Hoffman
stated they could.
Vice Mayor Eck stated he
would like to do that for this year and hopefully by next year
they will have a solution, and they can come up with either you
are topped out or you are not.They created the step program,
which they worked very hard to get after years of not seeing the
type of raises they are giving now.They did that for a while
to try to get the pay up, and obviously, that is not working.
He would propose at least that.He knows there may be
compression issues, but if anyone is not going to get something
in this budget, it will be the topped out employee.They cannot
do what he would choose to do, which is the entire organization.
Councilmember Dietz stated
they would all choose to do that.They have talked about it
extensively.
Vice Mayor Eck commented all
they needed to do was look forward.They did not and they did
not see this.At least he did not.
Councilmember Dietz commented
they looked at a seven digit figure to do it.That is what
killed it.
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Councilmember Barker asked if
the topped out positions are the only positions that will not
receive anything.
Vice Mayor Eck commented they
will receive the cost of living adjustment.They will not get
anything else.We can give them the $1,000 bonus; we used to do
that.The people that are getting the 7.3, if they make $40,000
a year, they are getting almost $3,000.Usually you are topped
out because you are a veteran employee.They could be topped
out in 9 years and be a 25 year employee.
Councilmember Barker asked if
they are the only ones.
Vice Mayor Eck stated that is
the only solution he has now.If they are going to have a true
employee advisory team, then we are going to have to follow the
recommendations of that team.He asked why they have a team if,
they are not going to follow their recommendations.
Councilmember Barker asked if
he was suggesting that the advisory team next year be the only
advisory team that we use to recommend salary.
Vice Mayor Eck commented if
they take into consideration the survey.He asked if we do
annual surveys.
City Manager George Hoffman
stated they do them every two years.
Vice Mayor Eck commented if
they take the survey into consideration for that.He thinks
that in order for it to be fair, they have representation across
the whole organization.
Councilmember Barker stated
that it can be just the single group, rather than two.They had
two this year that made recommendations to us.
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Vice Mayor Eck commented
that is correct.As there is very little they can add to the
budget since they have already approved the tentative, he
proposed they give a $1,000 bonus to the topped out employees.
City Manager George Hoffman
asked if that would be in addition to the 3%.
Vice Mayor Eck stated it
would.It would be for this year only and then they could
strive for some solution for the future.
Councilmember Dietz asked how
many employees are topped out.
There was general discussion
as to how many employees are topped out.
Assistant City Manager Bryant
Powell stated there are two employees that are topped out and
exceeding their top step.We do not know how many are topped
out with the new range.
City Manager George Hoffman
asked what the problem is that they are seeking to solve.
Vice Mayor Eck commented
equality; fairness.That is the real issue.
City Manager George Hoffman
asked if giving an employee who is topped out a double pay
increase makes things equitable.
Vice Mayor Eck stated it does
not.If they could go back to the tentative budget, they might
be able to work on the real issues.It is the only thing left.
He asked what else they could give.He suggested more vacation
days.
City Manager George Hoffman
stated there is a whole range of things they can do.They
cannot increase their overall aggregate budget or their overall
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contingency budget tonight.If they do not take any other
action tonight they have not given up any alternatives that they
cannot address the next meeting or the meeting after when they
have the data in front of them and the opportunity to reflect
upon they what they want to achieve.
Councilmember Dietz commented
they could do out of the contingency what they plan on doing.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated they can do it out of contingency after tonight.
Councilmember Barker stated
they can move funds around within the budget, they just cannot
increase the numerical bottom line.
City Manager George Hoffman
stated they could develop a strategy.
Finance Director Keith Lewis
stated the tentative budget has been published by department.
That department cannot be increased, such as Finance, City
Clerk, City Manager and so on.All those that are individual
departments, not like the police department divisions.The
police department as a whole cannot be increased.They cannot
be moved around other than with contingency funds voted on by
the council.
Councilmember Barker asked if
that would be after the budget process.
Finance Director Keith Lewis
stated that is correct; after the tentative budget is approved
they can no longer add to a department.They can decrease it,
but not increase it.
City Manager George Hoffman
stated they can make a budgetary decision to allocate money for
certain purposes, which could be to an employee out of the
contingency fund; this is proposed with the $100,000 for the 6
month market study.
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Councilmember Dietz stated
they could add some floating holidays or whatever out of the
contingency.
Assistant City Manager Bryant
Powell commented or a bonus.
Councilmember Barker
commented though they cannot add money to specific departments,
they can subtract money from the contingency fund to be used for
specific employees.
Finance Director Keith Lewis
stated that is correct.
Councilmember Barker stated
that would not add to their department.
Finance Director Keith Lewis
stated it would not if the transfer is legally done by the
council in open meetings.
Assistant City Manager Bryant
Powell asked how much it costs to have a one percent general
increase.
Finance Director Keith Lewis
stated it is $125,000, but with the new pay increase he would
have to check that.
Councilmember Severs asked
how many employees they have topped out in the organization.
Assistant City Manager Bryant
Powell stated they do not know exactly how many.
Councilmember Severs asked if
they had a rough guess.
Councilmember Dietz commented
they can go through that and bring it back.It is something
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they can bring back at the next meeting when we have the data in
front of us.
Vice Mayor Eck asked if they
needed to include that in tonight's motion.
Councilmember Barker stated
they do not.
Vice Mayor Eck commented they
still have time to discuss that issue.
City Manager George Hoffman
commented they might want an overview of all the pay personnel
issues that exist.If having a 27 year employee moving to the
start of a pay range is not as important as giving a double pay
increase to someone who is topped out, that would be their
choice.However, they would be aware of all the different
issues and they could make that choice.
Vice Mayor Eck asked how much
money did that person who went to the A range get compared to
the person getting the $1,000 bonus.
City Manager George Hoffman
stated he did not know.
Vice Mayor Eck commented he
would say it is probably five to one, if not more.
City Manager George Hoffman
stated there was a time when we did flat amount increases under
that philosophy because a loaf of bread costs the same for any
entry level as it does for a director.That is part of the
reason we still •]haire 27 year department directors moving to the
start of the pay range.You do not keep up with the labor
market when you do that kind of thing.That was a decade ago
and we still have not recovered from that.
Councilmember Serdy commented
this is he and Councilmember Wilson's first budget.He asked
for an explanation of contingency money; if it is emergency
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money, the money that is left over for some instances where we
may need that.He asked if they would have to tap into that if
there were a disaster, if they have ever had to before, and if
they have ever come up short.
City Manager George Hoffman
stated not that he could recall.
Assistant City Manager Bryant
Powell stated it is also there in case they do not have revenue
that comes in that has been anticipated.If things are worse
than what we think, it can be used.
Vice Mayor Eck commented it
is like a savings account.
Councilmember Dietz stated it
is a fall back amount, a reserve.
Assistant City Manager Bryant
Powell stated most local governments have one or two months
contingency funds just in case there is -a loss of revenue.
Councilmember Serdy asked how
much their contingency fund is.
Assistant City Manager Bryant
Powell stated it is $800,000 of a $20 million budget.It is
less than one month.
Councilmember Serdy asked if
it has been going up or down over the years.
Assistant City Manager Bryant
Powell stated there were a few years when he started where they
were doing a percentage increase but they have kept it stable
for awhile.
City Attorney Joel Stern
asked where the money comes from on the $50,000 deductibles on
tort cases.
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Finance Director Keith Lewis
stated it is out of nondepartmental as part of insurance.
City Attorney Joel Stern
asked how much is in the budget; how many cases can the city
absorb.
Finance Director Keith Lewis
stated they could do 2 cases.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated it would then come out of contingency after that.
Finance Director Keith Lewis
stated that is correct.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated the point is that if there is some tort liability, if it
is done within the next fiscal year, and $50,000 is the
deductible for each case, there is :a possibility they could run
into that money.It has not happened in the 10 years that he
has been here;.he does not know about before then.He doubted
it _because before him it was only a $10,000 deductible.
Councilmember Severs
commented he is concerned about dipping too tar into the
contingency.They.haveihad 15 businesses leave town, close down
or go somewhere else in the last 60 days.If that land down
south does not start developing in the next 2 or 3 years, and we
continue to lose businesses like we are now,he wondered what
would happen.He believes the tax revenue will go down and
questioned whether they would have enough or if it would be made
up by bringing new businesses in.
Vice Mayor Eck asked if he
was concerned about the $1,000 bonus.
Councilmember Severs stated
he was not.He is concerned about dipping into the contingency
too much if they do not .even have a month's worth of revenue
there.It is kind of scary.
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Vice Mayor Eck commented the
contingency is too low.It should be about 2.5% of the annual
fund each year.We have never been anywhere near that.
Finance Director Keith Lewis
agreed.
Vice Mayor Eck commented if
they could do something more on this budget he certainly would.
He apologized .to those in the audience.
Mayor Insalaco stated they
all apologize.He then closed the discussion and moved on to
the next item.
CONSIDERATION OF PROPOSED
RESOLUTION NO. 07-29, ADOPTION OF
FINAL BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2007-
2008
)Mayor Insalaco called for
a Motion.
Councilmember Barker MOVED
THAT RESOLUTION NO. 07-29, A RESOLUTION OF THE MAYOR AND CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF APACHE JUNCTION, ARIZONA, FULLY ADOPTING
ESTIMATES OF EXPENDITURES BY THE CITY OF APACHE JUNCTION FOR THE
FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING JULY 1, 2007, AND ENDING JUNE 30, 2008;
AMENDING THE CITY ATTORNEY'S BUDGET TO DELETE POSITIONS
ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY AND SECRETARY AND TO ADD LEGAL ASSISTANT
I AND II; DECLARING ESTABLISHMENT OF THE BUDGET FOR THE CITY OF
APACHE JUNCTION FOR FISCAL YEAR 2007-2008; AND DECLARING AN
EMERGENCY, BE APPROVED, WITH THE CHANGES TO THE
CLASSIFICATION/COMPENSATION PLAN AS INDICATED IN THE AMENDMENTS
ATTACHED TO RESOLUTION NO. 07-30.
Vice Mayor Eck SECONDED THE
MOTION.
Councilmember Dietz commented
he did not like her amendment.He thought they agreed to leave
it the same and change it later, but he guesses she saw fit to
put it in the motion.
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Councilmember Severs asked if
he could have a clarification.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated there is a motion and second on the floor and they have
already started the vote.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
RESOLUTION NO. 07-30, DECLARING AS
A PUBLIC RECORD AND ADOPTING THOSE
CERTAIN DOCUMENTS ENTITLED
"CLASSIFICATION PLAN FOR FISCAL
YEAR 2007-2008" AND "COMPENSATION
PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2007-2008
)City Clerk Kathleen
Connelly stated this is part B of the budget, adopting the
classification and compensation plans.
Mayor Insalaco called for a
motion.
Councilmember Dietz MOVED
THAT RESOLUTION NO. 07-30, A RESOLUTION OF THE MAYOR AND CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF APACHE JUNCTION, ARIZONA, DECLARING AS A
PUBLIC RECORD AND ADOPTING CERTAIN DOCUMENTS FILED WITH THE CITY
CLERK ENTITLED "THE CLASSIFICATION PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2007-
2008" AND "THE COMPENSATION PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2007-2008"; AND
DECLARING AN EMERGENCY, BE APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES:
RECREATION LEADER III POSITION SHOULD BE LISTED AS SALARY GROUP
24 AND LIBRARY COMPUTER TECHNICAL ASSISTANT SHOULD BE LISTED AS
LIBRARY COMPUTER TECHNICIAN ASSISTANT.
Councilmember Barker SECONDED
THE MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
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TEMPORARY CITY HOLIDAY ON MONDAY,
DECEMBER 24, 2007
)Mayor Insalaco stated this
is because Christmas falls on a Tuesday and it would just be an
extended leave for everybody.He called fora motion.
Councilmember Severs MOVED
THAT THE TEMPORARY HOLIDAY ON MONDAY, DECEMBER 24, 2007, BE
APPROVED.
Councilmember Dietz SECONDED
THE MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
AGREEMENT WITH THE GREATER PHOENIX
ECONOMIC COUNCIL FOR FISCAL YEAR
2007-2008
)Mayor Insalaco called for
any discussion on the item.There being no discussion, he
called for a motion.
Councilmember Severs MOVED
THAT APPROVAL BE GIVEN FOR THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE GREATER
PHOENIX ECONOMIC COUNCIL AND THE CITY OF APACHE JUNCTION FOR
FISCAL YEAR 2007-2008 FOR A REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $20,474.00; AND THAT AUTHORIZATION BE
GIVEN FOR THE MAYOR TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT PENDING FINAL APPROVAL
AS TO FORM AND CONTENT BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.
THE MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
ADJOURNMENT
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Councilmember Barker SECONDED
)Mayor Insalaco adjourned
the meeting at 6:15 p.m.
ACCEPTED THIS 7TH DAY OF AUGUST, 2007, BY THE MAYOR AND CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF APACHE JUNCTION, ARIZONA.
SIGNED AND ATTESTED TO THIS 7TH DAY OF AUGUST, 2007.
ATTEST:
KATHLEEN CONNELLY
City Clerk
J?Ir S. InALACO
Mk ryor
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and
correct copy of the minutes of the special meeting of the City
Council of the City of Apache Junction, Arizona, held on the 9th
day of July, 2007.I further certify that the meeting was duly
called and held and that a quorum was present.
Dated this 17th day of July, 2007.
KATHLEEN CONNELLY
City Clerk
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