HomeMy WebLinkAbout2002-12-03 City Council Regular MinutesCITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING
DECEMBER 3,2002
The regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Apache Junction,
Arizona,was held on December 3,2002,at the Apache Junction City Council
Chambers pursuant to the notice required by law.
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Coleman called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
INVOCATION
Councilmember Eck gave the Invocation.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Vice Mayor Surra led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
Councilmembers Present:Mayor Coleman
Vice Mayor Surra
Councilmember Dietz
Councilmember Durbala
Councilmember Eck
Councilmember Milkey
Councilmember Urich
Staff Present:Interim City Manager George Hoffman
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
City Attorney Joel Stern
Public Safety Director Robert Warner
City Engineer Ron Grittman
Parks & Recreation Director Jeff Bell
Finance Director Keith Lewis
Public Works Director Doug Dobson
Interim Development Svcs.Dir.Rudy Esquivias
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Others Present:
Assistant to the City Manager Bryant Powell
CDBG Administrative Assistant Melinda Larson
Grants Specialist Roger Hacker
Development Services Manager John Petroff
Management Assistant Shari Watson
ACCEPTANCE OF CONSENT AGENDA
)Vice Mayor Surra MOVED THAT THE
CONSENT AGENDA BE ACCEPTED AS PRESENTED AND THAT APPROVAL BE GIVEN FOR THE
EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN GEORGE HOFFMAN AND THE CITY OF APACHE JUNCTION
FOR THE POSITION OF CITY MANAGER AND SETTING FORTH THE TERMS OF EMPLOYMENT:
AND THAT AUTHORIZATION BE GIVEN FOR THE MAYOR TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT.
Councilmember Urich SECONDED THE
MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
AWARDS,PRESENTATIONS AND COMMUNICATIONS
None.
CALL TO THE PUBLIC
Mr.Bill Miller,1722 E.2nd Avenue,Apache Junction,addressed the council
regarding his inability to put an awning up on the west side of his home.
City staff in 1989 told the original owner of his property that the home would
have to be placed along the setback.In 2001 Ron Grittman and Doug Dobson
came out and showed him where he could put a retaining wall in on his
property,which sits 26'back from the setback towards the easement for
Descanso.He was refused the awning permit because of where the house is
placed,and that placement was determined by the city in 1989.He is stating
he has a hardship because his electric bill is very high in the summer months
due to the sun hitting the entire west wall in the late afternoon.He would
like someone to come out and look at his property as two fingers of Weekes
Wash go through his property on the west and south sides which would prevent
any road from being put in there,therefore creating no aesthetic problem with
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the neighborhood or the house.It would get the heat off the back side of his
house.The setback problem is caused because the planning department stated
that the house had to be located on that setback at its present angle.
Mr.Elliott Fisher,547 E.Quail,Apache Junction,Greater Apache Junction
Association for Effective Government,addressed the council regarding the
appointment of George Hoffman as city manager and whether the city would
receive a refund from the city manager search firm.He also commented that at
the last meeting he was talking about the settlement with Robert Haywood
regarding his discrimination suit.He believes the chances for an employee
winning a discrimination suit are slim.He is also concerned about disability
benefits being awarded to Mr.Haywood.He commented that when he came in with
an applicant for a referendum recently,he was not necessarily a part of that
referendum.
Mr.Stan Jenkins,5232 E.Dolphin,Mesa,addressed the council regarding the
passage of Ordinance No.1168 at the last meeting.He commented on the events
leading up to its passage.He accused the council of being anti -business,of
being silent to the property owners,and of giving misinformation to the
public and the property owners.He requested that the 13 properties be
removed from the ordinance.
Councilmember Urich requested staff to check into the concerns expressed by
Bill Miller.
CITY MANAGER'S REPORT
Interim City Manager George Hoffman commented he has wanted to have a purpose
and make a difference with his life,and he believes he can do that here as
city manager.He pledged to do his best for the council,the organization and
community,and thanked the council for giving him this avenue of service.He
commented that there will be an open house on Tuesday,December 10 at the
chamber building to update the Downtown Alive Town Hall 2002.Staff will be
attending to give a status report on the redevelopment project.He added
Bryant Powell would be crosstraining in the city manager position for the
December 17 meeting.He had asked Pat Brenner to approach Mr.Maynard of
Meridian Manor to discuss the concept of the city providing mediation services
between the residents of Meridian Manor and Mr.Clyde Barney.Pat Brenner
advised Mr.Maynard appeared receptive to the concept.They will need to go
through appropriate procurement procedures if the city goes through with it.
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Wal-Mart will be having an event this weekend in support of Animal Control.
The Festival of Lights will be this Friday evening.The contractor has
started on the traffic signal at Baseline and Ironwood;it will be a couple of
months before i t is completed.Another contractor is working on Baseline
across from the Public Works yard with street improvements associated with the
Industrial Park.Some milling work is occurring in front of the post office
to correct a problem with the asphalt mix there:the asphalt supplier is
paying for the milling.Additional work is being done at the intersection of
Ironwood and Superstition to correct a drainage issue.A contractor has begun
to work on the box culvert at Tomahawk and Weekes Wash.He added that Arizona
Department of Transportation crews are cleaning the medians of the freeway.
They are removing most of the vegetation so that less trash will gather there.
He believes this is a direct result of the work done by council with the
Arizona Department of Transportation Board of Directors.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
FISCAL YEAR 2003 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
BLOCK GRANT (CDBG)PROPOSED PROJECTS
)City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
briefed the council on the item.She commented that council was faced with
many choices for projects during the 2001 CDBG funding cycle.Council
directed the Health and Human Services Commission to look at the projects in
conjunction with the 2003 funding cycle.The commission is charged with
conducting public hearings to determine the needs of city residents with
regard to public health needs,provision of human services and care of the
elderly,handicapped and developmentally disabled.They held several public
hearings,hearing from individual agencies and individual citizens regarding
the needs covered by this portion of the code.A commission member is present
to give their recommendation.The commission cannot go into non -human service
functions such as streets.Those areas are not within their scope of
authority.The council can still consider those for part of the funding.
Councilmember Durbala asked if the
health and human services programs are budgeted out of the general fund.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly stated
that is correct.The Health and Human Services Commission reviews and makes
recommendations to the council for the annual budget cycle,which is done in
the first part of the year.
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Councilmember Eck commented he had
thought it would be good to get recommendations from the Health and Human
Services Commission for these projects,but he did not realize they would be
limited to just those items.He has strong opinions that a lot of the
revenues should go into other activities in the community.He wondered if he
had created something that was wasting someone's time if they change the
recommendations of the commission.
Councilmember Durbala commented he
does not think so.He believes it was a good idea to allow them to come to
the council with some perspective.
Councilmember Eck commented he
believes i t is unfair because they are only given the projects they can spend
money on.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly stated
she believed they acted as a clearinghouse for that particular group of
requests,narrowing 20 requests to 2 in that area.
Grants Specialist Roger Hacker
commented the phase the commission was involved in was to solicit ideas.They
reviewed the ideas,discussed the criteria to be used to review the suggested
projects,and staff will enter the information gathering phase after council's
direction this evening to research the projects deemed appropriate.There
were meetings with development services staff and with the department heads in
addition to the commission's public hearings and meetings.He introduced
Kathryn Stock of the Health and Human Services Commission.
Ms.Kathryn Stock stated the
commission recommended funding for the multi -generational center,for the
housing rehabilitation program,and for the administrative fees.The multi-
generational center was recommended because i t is consistent with the public
services and facilities portion of the general plan that specifies
facilitating senior center functions and the adoption of the capital
improvement plan,plus the 2002 Strategic Planning Workshop Action Plan
discusses the multi -generational center,and the Parks and Recreation Master
Plan also discusses the complex.The center has no funds available for
programmatic equipment and the crucial kitchen equipment.They recommended
the housing rehabilitation program because discussions indicated there is an
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ongoing need for funds.The commission recommends that the funding be used
for exterior improvements to homes and beautification of yards for the purpose
of upgrading older homes in the neighborhood.They recommended the
administrative fees as the CDBG process is very labor intensive for staff and
the funds are needed to cover the cost of the part-time CDBG administrative
assistant position.The administrative fees will also cover the technical
assistance fees due to the Central Arizona Association for Government and
grant administration uses the city supplies.They recommend beginning
researching the feasibility of these projects for inclusion in the city's
application and to have staff report back to the council at the January 20 and
21 meetings with the results of the research.
Grants Specialist Roger Hacker
commented he believed the overriding criteria used by the commission was i f
there was an existing city planning document that mentioned any of the
projects.They also wanted to get the most bang for their buck with the
project.
Councilmember Durbala commented he
liked the idea of the multi -generational center,but he would like to see the
remaining amount be put towards a stoplight at 16th and Idaho.The Arizona
Department of Transportation pays for half of it,and he asked if CDBG funding
could be used for the city's half.
Grants Specialist Roger Hacker
stated they would have to prove that any project such as a streetlight or
street repair is done in a low and moderate income neighborhood.
Councilmember Durbala commented i t
would probably not qualify there.
Grants Specialist Roger Hacker
stated it would probably not.
Councilmember Eck asked if there is
a limit as to how many services could be funded.Last year they wanted to do
four or five,but they only picked one or two.
Grants Specialist Roger Hacker
commented there is no regulation stating how many you can pick,but the
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projects are so labor intensive that i t becomes unwieldy for staff to do
anything more than one or two,possibly three projects.
Councilmember Eck commented the
sidewalk project south of Broadway on Cedar almost made i t as one of the
projects last year.He would like to give all the money to the two
recommended projects,but he would like to see some money go to projects such
as the sidewalk on Cedar.He does not see when they would get a sidewalk i f
they do not start using some of this grant money towards it.
Vice Mayor Surra asked how much
money had been allocated to the housing rehabilitation program last year.I t
seems like this is less money than recommended last year.
Grants Specialist Roger Hacker
stated i t is a reduction from last year's allocation.He does not have the
figures with him.
Vice Mayor Surra recalled there was
money that was left over that had not been applied for and it was shifted into
other areas of housing rehabilitation.She is glad to see a smaller amount
has been put in this year so that they are not taking money from another area
that could really use it.She commented if they handle more than two or three
projects and they are not finished in time,the funding will be lost.We
would then lose out on that money entirely.The record keeping and
administration required to do projects has been scary when they have had more
than two or three.The Department of Commerce told them last time that i t is
better to use this for large projects;i t is looked upon more favorably if it
is used for a large project instead of several little ones that they think
could be handled in other ways.She is glad to see that they are thinking of
putting the funding into a project that is such a huge concern.She commented
if they are going to reduce the funding in any area,they might want to do so
in the multi -generational center rather than the housing rehabilitation
program.They do need $70,000 for the kitchen,but they may be able to shift
some of the other money into another project.She is concerned about the
Department of Commerce looking at something so small that they would think i t
could be handled in another way other than CDBG funds.She thought the
sidewalk could come out of other funding;if it cannot,she needs to know that
before she makes her decision.
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City Engineer Ron Grittman stated
the Cedar project is identical to what was done on Saguaro and Ocotillo.They
had a number of section lines under construction last time so they could not
get it done in the last go round.Those are all completed so this project
would not be a problem to finish now.
Vice Mayor Surra asked if it would
happen anyway without the CDBG funds.
City Engineer Ron Grittman stated i t
would need to be funded by CDBG.
Vice Mayor Surra asked if it would
be coming out of the rehabilitation program.
City Engineer Ron Grittman stated i t
would.
Vice Mayor Surra commented that i t
will still happen.
Councilmember Eck asked if the
sidewalk on Cedar would be coming out of the existing housing rehabilitation
funds.
Vice Mayor Surra commented it would
come out of the funding to be voted on this year.
City Engineer Ron Grittman stated
that is correct.
Councilmember Eck commented he
thought it would be coming out of something totally separate.
Councilmember Urich commented the
concentrated neighborhood revitalization of Old Town,Acacia and Windsong got
25 votes.She asked what kind of improvements they were talking about.
Grants Specialist Roger Hacker
commented he believed it was the exterior of the homes to increase the
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appearance of the neighborhood.The commission discussed having the housing
rehabilitation concentrated in one neighborhood but decided against it because
they thought it was exclusionary of other citizens in the city and they wanted
to make any exterior rehabilitation eligible for anybody in the city.
Councilmember Urich asked if a
funding amount had been discussed for that area.
Grant Specialist Roger Hacker stated
it was brought up by a staff member and that person did not give a recommended
amount.
Councilmember Urich commented she
would hate to have i t fall through the cracks after i t received so many votes.
Grant Specialist Roger Hacker
commented Arizona is one of a handful of states that is really under close
scrutiny by the federal government for our expenditure rate on our federal
money.They would like the states to have no more than 150%of one year's
allocation in the bank.Arizona has close to 250%,so they are monitoring
this state.To help to alleviate the slowdowns that cause these projects to
drag on,the state is going to be redoing its whole application process to
make it easier and more friendly.
Councilmember Eck asked if the
$70,000 the vice mayor was talking about was for the multi -generational
center.
Vice Mayor Surra stated i t is for
the kitchen.
Councilmember Eck asked what the
expense would be for the sidewalk on Cedar.
City Engineer Ron Grittman stated he
does not recall what i t is;he would prefer to check the numbers and get back
to them.
Councilmember Eck* commented he would
like to know because these two may work if the numbers are okay.
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Grants Specialist Roger Hacker
reminded the council that their decision tonight does not lock them in to any
specific projects;i t is direction to staff to bring back more information.
Vice Mayor Surra asked if they could
put smaller divisions under the heading of the housing rehabilitation program.
She asked if they could also do that for the multi -generational center,
allowing them to put some of any funding left over into other areas of the
multi -generational center.She asked if the "senior"was the "hook"that gets
them the money.
Grants Specialist Roger Hacker
stated they would have to get specific on what they are spending the money on
and it would have to be for the senior center because seniors are an eligible
category.
Vice Mayor Surra commented they
would have to change the amount if they only wanted to fund the kitchen.
Grants Specialist Roger Hacker
stated that is correct.
Councilmember Dietz asked if they
would have to itemize what they are doing in the housing rehabilitation
program,as they have to for the senior center/multi-generational center,
stating $70,000 for the kitchen.He asked if they would have to state $40,000
for the sidewalks on Cedar and $25.000 for whatever else;if it would have to
be broken down.
Grants Specialist Roger Hacker
stated the housing rehabilitation would fall under the city's existing housing
rehabilitation program and that is how it would be referenced.The Department
of Housing already has that document so that could just be referenced.He
does not believe the sidewalk project wouTd'fall. under housing rehabilitation,.
it would be another area of neighborhood revitalization..He stated he would
look into that..
.Vice Mayor Surra commented that i t
would have to be broken out.
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would then have to have a third project.
stated that would be correct.
weaken the grant.
Councilmember Dietz stated they
Grants Specialist Roger Hacker
Vice Mayor Surra asked if that would
Councilmember Dietz commented he
thought it would be included in that;that is what Councilmember Eck had
stated.
Vice Mayor Surra stated she would
take Roger's word for it;he is the grant expert.
City Engineer Ron Grittman stated he
had said the project is eligible for CDBG funds,but he did not know where i t
would be classified.
Councilmember Dietz asked if it
would weaken the chances of approval if they added a third or fourth project.
Councilmember Eck commented they
will still get their grant,the question is the amount of funding needed for
the sidewalks.Once they learn that,they can determine the funding for the
other areas.
Vice Mayor Surra commented they need
to give direction to get those costs outlined for the council so they know how
to allocate the money.
Grants Specialist Roger Hacker
commented it would not weaken the city's application but they would probably
get an e-mail from the Department of Housing asking if they were sure the city
wants to do this many projects.Th.py are pushing fewer is better,bigger is
better.
Vice Mayor Surra'commented since
they wanted the sidewalk project completed before but i t had to be postponed,
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then the possibility of losing the funding for it would be motivation for them
to get it done.
Grants Specialist Roger Hacker
complimented the members of the commission for wading through all the
information.He believes they enjoyed and appreciated the opportunity of
meeting with the citizens and listening to the needs of the community..
Mayor Coleman opened the public
hearing on the item.
.Ms.Lisa Eden,9865 E.Windy Pass
Trail,Gold Canyon,addressed the council.She works in the human services
field in Apache Junction.She had presented the idea that the funds should go
towards the development of a YMCA here.She has since learned that the East
Valley YMCA will be including the Apache Junction area.They are already
active in Apache Junction.She commented on the various programs available in
the city.She requested funds be used to increase the current programs.
Mr.Dan Taylor,Executive Director
of Mesa Senior Services,thanked the council and city manager for their
support of the multi -generational center.They are excited to be a part of
that and for their forethought of providing some CDBG funding to provide some
of the needed equipment for the center.They will lend their support and will
be adding more staff and other things to make i t a fine place for this
community.
Mr.Elliott Fisher,547 E.Quail,
Apache Junction,Greater Apache Junction Association for Effective Government,
addressed the council.He commented if the federal government is so
concerned,they might want to get all of their financial matters right.He
commented someone might write a few letters explaining what is going on in
Apache Junction.He suggested if they aregoing to'rezone something in a
community development block grant area,they may want to state on the agenda
that this rezoning is in that type Of area..
Ms..Linda Freundlich,Executive
Director of East Valley Habitat for Humanity,addressed the council to speak
about her program.They have filed an application requesting funds to
purchase land in the city to construct houses on.They are currently
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constructing a house at 570 S.Ocotillo for a single mom and her children.
They have a sponsor lined up for the next city project and they have two
pieces of property in mind.Most cities help them with their CDBG funding
since they do not accept construction funds.They bring in taxpaying citizens
for the help that is given their organization.She requested they be
considered for funding.
Mayor Coleman closed the public
hearing with no one else wishing to speak.He reopened the item to council
discussion.
Councilmember Eck commented he did
not see the Habitat for Humanity as one of the items listed.Purchasing a lot
would not fall under the existing rehabilitation program.There would have to
be a separate line item.
Grants Specialist Roger Hacker
stated that would be a separate project different than support of the existing
housing rehabilitation program.
Councilmember Eck commented that is
a shame because they have to condense it down and he would like to be able to
purchase one lot for them for $20,000 or $30,000.I t seems like it would be a
major asset for someone.They do not need to create any more line items.
Vice Mayor Surra asked if they would
be eligible for the regular health and human services budgeted items for the
next budget cycle.That might be where they should put their application in
since i t is for a smaller dollar amount.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly stated
the total amount in the budget for health and human services funding is
$80,000.
Vice Mayor Surra commented that may
be a focus that they can look at for health and human services.
Councilmember Dietz asked what the
deadline is for the applications for that.
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City Clerk Kathleen Connelly stated
i t is January 31.She needs to contact her to get on the list.
Mayor Coleman closed the discussion
with no further comments and called for a motion.
Vice Mayor Surra MOVED THAT STAFF BE
GIVEN THE FOLLOWING DIRECTIONS REGARDING THE PROPOSED PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEAR
2003 COMMUNTIY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT (CDBG):AND THAT IS TO COME BACK TO US
TO GIVE US MORE INFORMATION REGARDING HOW MANY DOLLARS WOULD BE PULLED OUT OF
ONE OR OTHER OF THE PROGRAMS,PROBABLY UNDER HOUSING REHABILITATION,BUT,NOT
NECESSARILY SO,TO FUND THE SIDEWALK PROJECT IN THE CEDAR AREA WHICH PUBLIC
WORKS HAS ALREADY PLANS FOR;AND TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY LAST MINUTE THINGS THAT
COME UP THAT MAY HAVE SOME VALIDITY IN THE USE OF CDBG GRANT MONIES BE
PRESENTED TO US IN A TIMELY FASHION SO WE CAN GET ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE A
DECISION IN TIME.
Councilmember Eck SECONDED THE
MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
Mayor Coleman called for a ten
minute break.
Mayor Coleman reconvened the
meeting.
OLD BUSINESS
None.
NEW BUSINESS
PROPOSED ORDINANCE NO.1158,AMENDING
APACHE JUNCTION CITY CODE BY ADDING
ARTICLE 10-7 MOTORIZED SKATEBOARDS
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)Department of Public Safety
Director Robert Warner briefed the council on the item.This ordinance will
regulate motorized skateboards.These came on the scene two years ago and the
Arizona legislature changed some definitions in the statutes which defined
these things well.but not as vehicles or motorized vehicles.I t precluded
them from enforcement efforts as such.Traffic Sergeant Dick Virgil
recognized the danger of these devices if operated improperly and that state
law no longer effectively regulated them.He researched and contacted other
cities to see what kind of ordinances they had in place and then drafted an
ordinance for our city.He asked that they consider this ordinance for
adoption as i t is a public safety issue.We have had some incidents that
could have been more serious than they were.,The devices have been operated
in some scary manners.He has seen some operators with gasoline tanks
strapped to their backs,making them a human bomb should something happen.
This ordinance deals with those things and sets minimum requirements,
including safety equipment,and restricts them to roadways where the speed
limit is 25 miles per hour or slower.Sergeant Virgil was present to answer
any questions.
Vice Mayor Surra commented on page 4
of 6 of the ordinance,letter F.it mentions keeping both hands upon the
steering mechanism at all times.She asked if this ordinance is not for
something that is commonly thought of as a skateboard but for those she would
consider scooters.
Department of Public Safety Director
Robert Warner stated that is correct.They are called motorized skateboards.
Vice Mayor Surra stated she was not
aware that was the terminology used for them.
Department of Public Safety Director
Robert Warner stated that is what they are defined as under the Arizona
Revised Statutes.
Vice Mayor Surra stated that could
be a problem for those kids that do not understand that that is what that
means.She asked if they could put in the definition that i t has to have a
handle.I t does not say anything about a handle or a steering mechanism.She
added the police may know that it has a steering mechanism,but she questioned
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whether everyone else would know that it means those little scooters.The
kids in her neighborhood call them scooters,not skateboards.
Department of Public Safety Director
Robert Warner stated they do not intend to make criminals out of the six and
seven year olds out there.They will use this more for an educational tool,
but if a person refuses to accept their explanation and urging to operate in a
safe manner,i t provides them with a mechanism to force them to comply or
respond to the judge as to why they will not.
Vice Mayor Surra commented i t states
they must be fourteen to ride them,so six and seven year olds are breaking
the law if they are riding them.
Department of Public Safety Director
Robert Warner stated they would be once this is approved.
Councilmember Eck stated he is
concerned because he does see a lot of kids who have them that are ten years
old.He asked if they would be able to operate them.
Department of Public Safety Director
Robert Warner stated they would not be able to operate them on the roadways or
sidewalks.
Councilmember Eck asked if the
ordinance is complementary to other cities'ordinances.
Sergeant Dick Virgil stated he used
ordinances from the City of Phoenix and the City of Mesa.This ordinance is
based on theirs,which are proven ordinances.
CouncilmeMber Eck commented he had
assumed so as one would pretty much have to since they .are.a year ahead of us.
He would not like to have his son Come home and tell him that he can do things
in Mesa that he cannot do over her...
Sergeant Dick Virgil stated they
cannot do i t in Mesa either,nor in Phoenix or Tempe.He commented the
definition used is directly out of Title 28,the traffic laws of Arizona,and
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in 2001 they defined motorized skateboards for the first time.That is the
definition used.He commented the definition of a motor vehicle does not
state i t has a steering wheel,nor does i t state that a motorcycle has
handlebars.The definition is based on the same protocol that those are.
Vice Mayor Surra commented they
could maybe put something out in the paper for the education process and have
pictures of the type of vehicle.
.Sergeant Dick Virgil stated they are
not going out with handcuffs and a trailer and'the kids up in a car and
put the motorized skateboards in the tr iler.There is an educational process
that takes place.If they do not want to take the first contact to heart,the
ordinance gives them recourse to save them from themselves.
Councilmember Dietz asked if there
was a lot of publicity about this in the other cities about eight months ago
or so.
Sergeant Dick Virgil stated it was
two to three years ago.The question that arose at that time was that these
modes of transportation were not defined in Title 28.The cities initially
made their own definitions.They regulated outside of Title 28,which you
cannot do.That was the point of contention.When they fought the tickets
under the city ordinance,the state would not recognize them and questioned
the definition.Once the state defined them,that went away.
Councilmember Dietz commented he
imagined a lot of cities will now be jumping on the bandwagon.
Sergeant Dick Virgil agreed,and
stated there are a lot there now.
Councilmember Milkey asked if they
are used for transportation to and from school.
Sergeant Dick Virgil stated he does
not know if the rules prohibit the operation on school district property.
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Councilmember Eck commented they
park them at the bike rack and chain them in Mesa,but he does not know if
they have to push them when they get within 50 feet of the school.They are
not near a high access road.
Councilmember Milkey stated he is
concerned about restricting a mode of transportation that gets them to and
from school.
Sergeant Dick Virgil stated he does
not know what the amount of usage is going to and from schools.He has not
seen them on school property or heard of them being parked on school property.
Vice Mayor Surra asked if this
ordinance would prohibit them from being used on school property as long as
they are following the rules.
Department of Public Safety Director
Robert Warner stated they would have to stay on streets with a speed limit of
no more than 25 miles per hour.
are allowed in the skate park.
not.
cities limit it to 14 years and older.
Councilmember Urich asked if they
Sergeant Dick Virgil stated they are
Mayor Coleman asked if the other
Sergeant Dick Virgil stated they do.
Mayor Coleman asked if, they have a
restriction of their only being allowed on Toads 25 miles per hour or less.
helmet requirement.
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Sergeant Dick. Virgil stated they do.
Mayor Coleman asked if they have a
requires bicycle riders to wear helmets.
not.
Sergeant Dick Virgil stated they do.
Mayor Coleman asked if the city
Sergeant Dick Virgil stated we do
'Mayor Coleman asked why we would
require helmets for motorized skateboards and not bicycles.
Sergeant_Dick Virgil stated a
bicycle is recognized in Title 28 and there are statutes directly related to
that in Title 28.The motorized skateboards, are recognized as motor vehicles.
The bicycle is not a motor vehicle or even a vehicle.Bicyclists are not
directed to wear a helmet in Title 28.
are required to wear helmets.
not.
difference is.
Mayor Coleman asked if motorcyclists
Sergeant Dick Virgil stated they are
Mayor Coleman asked what the
Sergeant Dick Virgil stated if they
are under 18 years of age,Arizona law requires the wearing of a helmet for a
driver or a passenger.They are not required to be helmeted if they are 18 or
over.
There was general discussion about a
public hearing on this item.
City Attorney Joel Stern asked
Sergeant Virgil to explain the safety hazards associated with motorized
skateboards as to pedestrians and the riders.
Sergeant Dick Virgil stated the main
concern is that though they have been clearly defined in the traffic law,
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there have been no attempts to regulate them.We have seen the gas tanks on
their backs;they are using camel packs and running a line to the engine.
They are running around with 2-3 gallons of gas on their backs.There is one
in town capable of speeds in excess of 40 miles per hour.The wheels are 3"
in diameter and 1"wide.The contact patch is 2";that is all that is holding
them there.The propensity for these to go down is extreme,especially when
maneuvering.They ramp over driveways,street entrances,handicap ramps and
sidewalks.He saw a 12 year old boy with his 3 year old sister at 16th Avenue
and Idaho going about 25 miles per hour with her sitting in front of him on
the skateboard.That was the final straw for him.He is aware that helmets
are not regulated for motorcyclists over the age of 18 or for bicyclists,but
young children are out there riding these at 25 -30 miles per hour.The
propensity for severe head injuries is extreme on these for thOse children.
Councilmember Durbala commented
people riding bicycles do not get up to 20-25 miles per hour running down the
road versus the motorized skateboards.He is looking at the safety factor,
and if a kid falls in front of you and you run him over,you,the adult,would
have to suffer for the rest of your life.He does not think i t is a bad idea
to regulate it.There are many cities that are regulating i t now and more
that are looking at regulating it.I t is becoming a bigger and bigger
problem.They are also starting to put bigger and bigger horsepower on these.
They could be reaching 45 to 50 miles per hour going down the streets soon.
Sergeant Dick Virgil stating they
already have some doing that.
Councilmember Durbala commented they
need to start regulating i t and putting some kind of safety measures in place.
Most parents buy their kids helmets for when they are riding their bicycles
anyway.More ride with helmets and pads than ten years ago.
Councilmember Milkey commented they
should be buying helmets for their children riding the mOtorized skateboards
as well.
Councilmember Durbala stated they
should be.The roads have a lot of ruts.
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Councilmember Urich commented they
are requiring anyone riding these to have on protective glasses or goggles or
a transparent face shield.She asked if the other cities'ordinances also
required them.
Sergeant Dick Virgil stated they do.
-Councilmember Urich commented i t
does not include an age limit.Anyone .riding it must have one of them on.
, Sergeant Dick Virgil stated that is
correct,but the age is specified at 14.They are legally riding i t at 14,
but to be legal,they must have the eye protection and the helmet.
Councilmember Urich commented she
has not seen any of them with eye protection.
Mayor Coleman asked if it was the
same in Mesa.
Sergeant Dick Virgil stated i t is.
They should have some type of eye protection,whether i t is prescription
glasses,some type of safety glasses,a windshield particular to a motorcycle,
or a face shield on the helmet.
Councilmember Milkey stated he has
mixed feelings on this ordinance.He would like some feedback and discussion'
at the public hearing.He thanked them for their information.
Sergeant Dick Virgil stated they can
launch a platform from this just as they do for the bicycle rodeos and the
helmet donations they hand out.They will have the platform to bring these
kids into a training,educational and knowledge type environment and let them
know that this is a steering wheel,why they have to wear a helmet,and why
they need to stay off the higher speed limit streets.
Mayor Coleman closed the discussion
with no further comments and moved on to the next item.
DISCUSSION ON ACCESSIBLE EQUIPMENT IN CITY
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PLAYGROUNDS •)
)Councilmember Eck asked for this.
to be put on the agenda because a resident requested it.She has a
handicapped child and she saw something on the news where a lot of -
municipalities are getting accessible playground equipment,such as swings and
slides.He discussed it with Jeff Bell and asked him to provide some
information to the council.
Parks and Recreation Director Jeff
Bell commented the Americans with Disabilities Act provides guidelines for the
development of public playgrounds.There has been an update on accessibility
for playgrounds in the last two years,which includes accessible routes,
surfacing,ground level components and elevated components.Half of your
components have to be accessible,which is higher than i t used to be.The new
park,Superstition Shadows Park,will follow those guidelines.He hopes the .
resident will be pleased with what is accomplished down there.
Councilmember Eck asked if there
will be something there if the child is wheelchair bound.He would like there
to be at least one piece of equipment.
Parks and Recreation Director Jeff•
Bell stated they already have accessible equipment at Prospector Park,such as
a raised sandbox.There are several other features they can incorporate.
Councilmember Eck asked that he keep
i t in mind in case something new came out,such as a swing.
Parks and Recreation Director Jeff
Bell stated the difficulty with swings is that there are a couple of different
types.There are some where you can wheel the wheelchair onto the swing's
platform,but i t is a dangerous piece of equipment when i t is not being used
by a wheelchair.They might want to formulate a system wherein they would
have to check i t out or schedule it:sq :they could meet them down there to hook
the equipment up for their Use.There are swings with harnesses,also.Some
of the equipment does not create the danger that a'swing does.'
Councilmember Urich commented there•
is an accessible playground at the National Institute of Health in Bethesda,
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Maryland.They have a swinging bridge,a playhouse,and all sorts of
different things.I t has been there for about 20 years.
Vice Mayor Surra asked if everything
being built by the city now is accomplishing the Americans with Disabilities
Act requirements for accessibility.
Parks ,and Recreation Director Jeff
Bell stated that is correct.
,Vice Mayor Surra commented that any
time they will be adding,redeveloping or renewing anything for a park,some
of that will go towards accessibility for the disabled.She asked if this
would be an ongoing program.
Parks and Recreation Director Jeff
Bell stated that is correct.
Vice Mayor Surra asked if this will
require the council to make any additional policies or expenditures of
funding.
Parks and Recreation Director Jeff
Bell stated it will not.
Mayor Coleman asked if they
currently have accessible items at any of the other parks.
Parks and Recreation Director Jeff
Bell stated Prospector Park is the only playground that has accessible items,
but there is funding this year to provide some accessible surfacing at
Goldminer's Park to access the playground.
Councilmember Urich commented some
of the picnic tables are accessible there.
Vice Mayor Surra suggested putting
something on the website that would designate what areas are accessible and
what accessible equipment they have.The list should be added to as new areas
are developed.
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Parks and Recreation Director Jeff
Bell stated that could easily be done.The have a listing of their parks and
their amenities;they could add which ones are accessible.
Councilmember Eck commented i f
something new comes up in accessible equipment,he would like to see i t
considered.It would be nice for wheelchair bound children to be able to do
something.
Councilmember Durbala commented the
mayor will be going to the National League of Cities and Towns and they always
have vendors there,including parks and recreational equipment.
Mayor Coleman stated he would pick
up any brochures.He closed the discussion with no further comments and moved
on to the next item.
COUNCIL DIRECTION TO STAFF ON ANY OF THE ABOVE LISTED AGENDA ITEMS
None.
COUNCIL DIRECTION TO STAFF ON OTHER PROPOSED LEGISLATION OR ACTIONS
APACHE JUNCTION MAIN STREET RECOMMENDATION
FOR LAMP DESIGN STANDARDS IN DOWNTOWN
REDEVELOPMENT AREA
)City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
briefed the council on the item.She commented there are pictures of the
various lamp designs in their packets as well as the recommended design
standard by Main Street design committee.If the council agrees with the
recommendation of the committee and board,they may direct staff to proceed
with the design in conjunction with the Downtown Redevelopment Area.
recommended design.
Surra agreed.
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Mayor coleman..stated he liked the
Councilmember Eck and Vice Mayor
Mayor Coleman closed the discussion
with no further comments and called for a motion.
Vice Mayor Surra MOVED THAT STAFF BE
GIVEN THE FOLLOWING DIRECTION REGARDING APACHE JUNCTION MAIN STREET PROGRAM
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR LAMP DESIGN STANDARDS IN DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT AREA:
THAT TRUSTING IN THEIR GOOD TASTE AND THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF THE NEEDS FOR
THAT AREA,THAT WE GO WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THAT COMMITTEE AND THE
ALTERNATES THAT THEY MIGHT USE IN OTHER PHASE'S.
Councilmeinber Dietz SECONDED THE
MOTION.
•VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
MAIN STREET PROGRAM REQUEST TO REDUCE
SPEED LIMIT ON APACHE TRAIL
)Mayor Coleman commented he
received a letter from Main Street Program requesting a reduction in the speed
limit on Apache Trail and he would like to hear the council's ideas about it.
Councilmember Eck commented he
believes the long range goal will be for Apache Trail to slow down to
eventually 35 miles per hour when i t is all developed.While it maybe good
to talk about,he does not believe i t is necessary to change the speed limit
now.He is concerned that you can speed up once you cross Meridian Road going
eastbound.He believes i t should be an even speed limit,instead of going
from 40 to 45 miles per hour.
Councilmember Milkey stated it drops
to 40 in Maricopa County.
Mayor Coleman stated it then goes
back up to 45.
Councilmember Dietz stated it drops
from 50 to 40 in Maricopa County before it comes into Apache Junction.
to 40 in Maricopa County.
back up to 45.
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Councilmember Milkey.stated i t is a
little speed trap there for Maricopa County.
Mayor Coleman commented the letter
points out that Idaho,Ironwood,Broadway and Superstition all have speed
limits of 35 miles per hour,even coming off the freeway.That seems
restrictive to him.
Councilmember Eck agreed.
Mayor Coleman added that is
something they may want to take a look at in the other direction.
Councilmember Milkey commented Ron
Grittman had stated that actually raising the speed limit in some cases brings
your median speed down.He suggested raising the speed limit on Apache Trail
to 55 miles per hour and that would bring the others down.
Vice Mayor Surra commented she
wished that were true on the Trail,because the other day she was nearly
killed because of someone trying to do 75 or 80 on Apache Trail.That worries
her for people who are pulling in and out of the businesses.We are not
giving them the option to get back into traffic because the speed limit is so
high.She believes they must err on the side of what is good for the business
district.The current speed limit is not good for the business district.She
cannot encourage people to go down there and shop if they have to worry about
taking their life in their hands.People use the Trail to get out and in;we
want them to stay in that area.She would like to see the speed limit
lowered.She is aware i t is not fully developed,but she wonders if people
choose not to develop there because they worry about how high the speed limit
is;they may not want their business located on. such a fast lane.She would
like to hear why Main Street wants this lowered and What their people talked
about.She asked if Arlene could talk to the council .
Note approach the council.
Mayor coleMap requested Arlene Van
Ms.Arlene Van Note,chair of the
Main Street Board,addressed the council.A committee worked on this and they
suggested a lot of numbers.In a developed downtown,you would want 25 to 30
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miles per hour.That is their eventual goal.She would like to see the city
take a step in that direction so that people will know they are serious about
creating a downtown.The people who pay attention to a speed limit will slow
down,the rest will not.She believes 35 miles per hour is their ideal
number,but the council will make the determination on what the speed limit
will be.She believes i t is important to make a step in that direction to let
the committee know that the city is serious about making a viable business
district here.
:-.Councilmember Milkey commented he
worries that if they reduce the speed limit down and remove the vehicular
traffic from the Trail to the other arterials,the businesses will not get the
exposure they want.He is concerned that may be a problem.He also asked i f
they would have to do a traffic study to reduce' the speed limit.
City Engineer Ron Grittman stated a
traffic study would not be required to lower the speed limit.A traffic study
is used to set a maximum speed limit.There is nothing to preclude the
council from lowering the speed limit.
Councilmember Milkey asked if there
would be safety concerns with lowering the speed limit.
City Engineer Ron Grittman commented
in other areas where you have congestion along major roadways such as Apache
Trail,lowering the speed limit does increase the frustration of the drivers
as it takes longer to get from point A to point B.Broadway and Superstition
have lower speed limits and the congestion is much lower than on Apache Trail.
People will start to migrate towards those streets because they are going tp
locations that those roads will allow them to get to simply because the
congestion is lower.
Councilmember Urich commented it was
hard for her to locate addresses on Apache Trail when she first moved here
because of the speed.It was also hard to believe that the oncoming traffic
when trying to pull out of parking lots was going at 45 miles per hour.
Councilmember Durbala commented they
discussed four or five years ago,when first talking about making this a
downtown retail area,the possibility of making Broadway and Superstition 5-
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lane roads.They were supposed to take most of the through traffic so that
the speed limit on Apache Trail could be reduced to try and increase the
business.That was the intent at that time:to develop the downtown area.
Traffic flowing at 45 miles per hour does not attract business unless they
have a turn lane that allows them to slow down.If they want to develop
business and keep more people downtown,then they need to reduce the speed.
Broadway is supposed go back to Old West Highway.He thinks they need to look
at the businesses on the Trail and survey the businesses to see if they want
the lower speed limit.
Main Street is supposed to have done.
Vice Mayor Surra stated that is what
Councilmember Durbala commented some
of the people up here think that i t has not been effective.He would like to
hear i t from some of the business owners so that the council could understand
that.He would like to see i t reduced.
Councilmember Eck asked what the top
speed is on Apache Trail.
City Engineer Ron Grittman stated i t
is 45 miles per hour on Apache Trail between Idaho and Meridian.It goes up
to 55 miles per hour east of Idaho.
Councilmember Eck stated they need
to concentrate between Idaho and Meridian.He suggested they compromise on
the speed limit and drop it 5 miles per hour to 40.It would be a start in
the right direction.He believes 35 is too low at this time.
There was general discussion by the
council on the speed limit being lowered to 40 miles per hour.The council
reached a consensus on that speed limit.
'Vice Mayor. Surra commented i t is her
*understanding that Main Street did do a survey of the business owners and that
this request is a culmination of that survey.She believes they do have the
recommended speed from the business owners.If they say 35,she would like to
give them 35 miles per hour.She does not think dropping it to 40 will make
any difference.If they continue to see a "4"up there,they will still do 45
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to 50:if they see a "3",they will think something'has changed.She would
like to see i t at 35.
Mayor Coleman and Councilmember Eck
disagreed.
Councilmember Eck commented he was
trying to think of a compromise so 40 would be.the center.
Mayor Coleman agreed with
Councilmember Eck.
•Vice Mayor Surra commented she would
go along with lowering it to 40 rather than see i t fail to be lowered.She
will probably bring it back before June to attempt to bring it down to 35,
thereby lowering i t in increments of 5.They can see how it is looking and
get more input from the business owners.She thinks the business people know
best regarding this issue and she would prefer to go with what they want.
CouncilmemberDurbala commented all
of the cross streets are at 35;it may as well be dropped down to 35 looking
at i t from that point.He agreed with the vice mayor,but he will agree to 40
at this time.He suggested lowering the speed limit on the other roads by 5
miles per hour.
Vice Mayor Surra stated 35 miles per
hour is reasonable on the other streets.
Councilmember Eck commented he would
like to see i t at 40 on Broadway and Superstition.
Vice Mayor Surra agreed.
Councilmember Durbala suggested
Idaho and Ironwood.
A number of the councilmembers
agreed.
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City Engineer Ron Grittman stated
they could direct staff to do a speed study on all of those roads such as
Broadway,Idaho,Superstition and others.
Vice Mayor Surra commented they
would know more about traffic flow once the speed limit is lowered on the
Trail.
Mayor Coleman commented he would
like to see a speed study on the other streets because he believes they are
too slow.
Vice Mayor Surra agreed.She would
like to see i t done after the speed on the Trail is reduced so they would know
what the real flow of traffic will be.
Councilmember Durbala commented i f
they are all at 35,they would know what the flow would be.
Mayor Coleman closed the discussion
and called for a motion.
Councilmember Eck MOVED THAT STAFF
BE GIVEN THE FOLLOWING DIRECTION REGARDING APACHE JUNCTION MAIN STREET PROGRAM
REQUEST TO REDUCE SPEED LIMIT ON APACHE TRAIL:BETWEEN IDAHO AND MERIDIAN
ROADS,NOT TO EXCEED 40 MILES PER HOUR,EAST AND WESTBOUND LANES.
Councilmember Dietz SECONDED THE
MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
SELECTION OF MEETING DATES,TIMES,LOCATIONS,AND PURPOSES
Councilmember Dietz MOVED THAT AN
EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 6:00 P.M.AND A WORK SESSION AT 7:00 P.M.BE HELD ON
MONDAY,DECEMBER 16,2002,IN THE CITY CONFERENCE ROOM AND CITY COUNCIL
CHAMBERS,RESPECTIVELY,AND
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THAT AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 6:00 P.M.BE HELD ON TUESDAY,DECEMBER 17,2002,
IN THE CITY CONFERENCE ROOM.
Vice Mayor Surra SECONDED THE
MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
INFORMATION AND REPORTS
Councilmember Eck congratulated the new city manager,George Hoffman.
Mayor Coleman announced he will be going to the National League of Cities
Conference.He will be leaving tomorrow for Salt Lake City and i t is being
paid for by the state League.
ADJOURNMENT
)Mayor Coleman adjourned the
meeting at 9:02 p.m.
Consent Agenda Items are as follows:
1.Acceptance of Agenda.
2.Acceptance of Minutes of Regular Meeting of November 19,2002.
3.Consideration of proposed Employment Agreement with City Manager George
Hoffman.
ACCEPTED THIS 17TH DAY OF DECEMBER ,2002,BY THE MAYOR AND
CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF APACHE JUNCTION,ARIZONA.
SIGNED AND ATTESTED TO THIS 17TH DAY OF DECEMBER ,2002.
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ATTEST:
KATHLEEN CONNELLY
City Clerk
DOUGLAS COVEMAN
Mayor
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and correct copy of the
minutes of the regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Apache
Junction,Arizona,held on the 3rd day of December,2002.I further certify
that the meeting was duly called and held and that a quorum was present.
Dated this 10th day of December,2002.
KATHLEEN CONNELLY
City Clerk
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