HomeMy WebLinkAbout2000-01-04 City Council Regular MinutesCITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING
JANUARY 4,2000
The regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Apache Junction,
Arizona,was held on January 4,2000,at the Apache Junction City Council
Chambers pursuant to the notice required by law.
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Coleman called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
INVOCATION
Councilmember Durbala gave the Invocation.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Councilmember Insalaco led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
Councilmembers Present:Mayor Coleman
Vice Mayor Surra
Councilmember Dietz
Councilmember Durbala
Councilmember Eck
Councilmember Insalaco
Councilmember Urich
Staff Present:City Manager Curtis Shook
Asst.City Manager George Hoffman (arrived 7:30)
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
City Attorney Joel Stern
Public Safety Director Robert Warner
City Engineer Paul Stears
Public Works Director Doug Dobson
Development Services Director Glen Van Nimwegen
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Others Present:Associate Planner Rudy Esquivias
Associate Planner Paul Michaud
Patrol Officer John Pinson
Long Range Planner Kate Morris
Economic Development Specialist Kerry Lyman
ACCEPTANCE OF CONSENT AGENDA
)Councilmember Insalaco MOVED THAT
THE CONSENT AGENDA BE ACCEPTED AS PRESENTED;AND THAT WE RECOGNIZE THE
OUTSTANDING SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY BY THE FOLLOWING CITY EMPLOYEES:THE
PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT:AND THAT THE AWARD OF BID FOR PW 99-31,WEST APACHE
TRAIL/OLD WEST HIGHWAY CROSSOVER STUDY,AWARDED TO DAVID EVANS & ASSOCIATES,
INC.,IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $27,221.80,BE APPROVED.
Councilmember Dietz SECONDED THE
MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
AWARDS,PRESENTATIONS AND COMMUNICATIONS
None.
CALL TO THE PUBLIC
None.
CITY MANAGER'S REPORT
City Manager Curtis Shook announced there were no Y2K problems on December 31
in the city.He thanked the staff and council for all the preparation that
went into making the move into the new millenium successful.He then
presented a 20 year plaque to Patrol Officer John Pinson,the first city
employee to reach that achievement.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
APPLICATION FOR A LIQUOR LICENSE FOR
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A.J.'S MINI MART
)City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
briefed the council on the item.This will be a new facility located on the
northwest corner of Baseline and Ironwood.The applicant was notified to
attend the meeting to answer any questions.
Mayor Coleman requested the
applicant address the council.
Ms.Linda Pearson addressed the
council to represent the L.L.C.that owns and intends to manage the business.
Councilmember Urich asked how many
hours or days she would physically be present at the business.
Ms.Linda Pearson stated the
schedule had not been put together as of yet.There will be a manager and
assistant manager on site.
Councilmember Urich asked if she had
any projected hours or days.
Ms.Linda Pearson stated she should
be there every day at the beginning as it takes a lot of work to get these
businesses started.
Councilmember Urich asked if she had
attended a department -approved liquor law training course within the last five
years.
Ms.Linda Pearson stated she had
taken both on -site and off -site management courses recently.
Councilmember Eck asked if the
owners of the property also own the property north of the mini mart location.
Ms.Linda Pearson stated they did
own a piece of property but that has now been sold.The only property they
now own in that vicinity is the mini mart location.This occurred within the
last six months.
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Councilmember Eck asked if she had
represented that other company in the past.
Ms.Linda Pearson stated she had.
She added she has represented this same company,which has owned this property
for several years.They split part of the property off to the north and sold
it.She commented the mobile home park and the property to the north are
owned by a separate entity and she has never been associated with them.
Mayor Coleman opened the public
hearing on the item.There being no one wishing to speak,he closed the
public hearing and reopened the item to council discussion.There being no
further discussion,he called for a motion.
Councilmember Durbala MOVED THAT AN
APPLICATION FOR A NEW LICENSE,LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY,SERIES 10 LIQUOR
LICENSE FOR A.J.'S MINI MART BE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL TO THE ARIZONA
DEPARTMENT OF LIQUOR LICENSES AND CONTROL.
Councilmember Dietz SECONDED THE
MOTION.
VOTE:3-4 (Councilmembers Eck,Insalaco and Urich and Vice Mayor Surra voted
in opposition.)
The motion failed.
Vice Mayor Surra MOVED TO CONTINUE
THIS TO ANOTHER DATE.There seems to be some information missing regarding
what is happening on the property.She does not understand what happened to
the project that was already approved by council.She is hesitant to issue
any other permit or license until council knows what is happening there.
MOTION.
discussion.
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Councilmember Urich SECONDED THE
Mayor Coleman reopened the
Councilmember Durbala asked what
specifics the vice mayor needed.
Vice Mayor Surra stated she needs to
continue the item because she does not have the specifics.
Councilmember Durbala asked what
information was lacking.
Vice Mayor Surra stated she was not
positive as to what is happening at that corner and she wants to continue this
until she can investigate further and determine what is happening there.
Councilmember Durbala stated he was
trying to determine what she was talking about on the property.
Vice Mayor Surra stated she had
expressed her opinion and she was waiting for a decision on her motion.
VOTE:6-1 (Councilember Durbala voted in opposition.)
The motion carried.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly asked
if it was to be continued for two weeks.
Vice Mayor Surra stated there is no
work session on January 17 so it may have to be postponed further.She wants
to be sure it will still make the state deadline if it is heard on February 1.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly stated
they may have to see it at the next meeting to stay within the state's
deadline.
City Attorney Joel Stern asked what
date that would be.
Vice Mayor Surra stated it would be
on January 18.
PROPOSED RESOLUTION NO.99-63/GENERAL PLAN
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AMENDMENT GPA-99-02;PROPOSED ORDINANCE
NO.1108/REZONING CASE PZ-11-99 BY
FERGUSON/BARNEY;PROPOSED RESOLUTION NO.
99-57/PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR A 186 -LOT
SINGLE-FAMILY SUBDIVISION,TOMAHAWK,CASE
SD -04-99
)City Attorney Joel Stern commented
the general plan amendment must pass by a vote of 2/3 in order for the other
two items to be voted upon.
Associate Planner Rudy Esquivias
briefed the council on the item.The 40 acre property is located at the
northeast corner of Tomahawk and Baseline.It is currently zoned TH.The
applicants want to rezone the property from TH to CR-3 in order to build a
single-family home subdivision.They are asking for straight zoning which
will require 7,000 sq.ft.minimum lots with standard setbacks.Due to its
being straight zoned,the city cannot ask for trade-offs such as open space
and recreational amenities.The applicants are asking for a general plan
amendment to change this from a commercial and industrial corner to a medium
density designation of 1 to 6 dwelling units per acre.The applicants will be
required to improve the half right-of-ways on Baseline and Tomahawk.Trend
Homes is the proposed builder of this subdivision.Development fees will be
paid on a per permit basis.The project will be connected to the sewer
district;the district has already committed to providing them service along
with the Water Utilities Community Facilities District.Council commented the
preliminary plat showed a spartan design without much open space.The
applicants have agreed to giving up one lot to provide some open space and
recreational amenities.They have recently given the city a revised plan
wherein they have given up a couple of lots on the west end of the subdivision
which appears to have a basketball court and a tot lot.All of the front
yards appear to be landscaped.The city had asked that the two retention
areas on the southeast and southwest corners be green areas where kids can
play.The property will have dedicated streets on the west and south,however
the internal streets will be private.They are giving the homeowners larger
front yards,but they are not providing a 50'right-of-way for those internal
streets.The streets will need to be maintained by the homeowners
association,and they do not have to meet city standards.Currently,the
general plan calls for commercial/industrial but the property is zoned for a
trailer park.If the general plan amendment is approved and the zoning is
approved,the land use and zoning will be congruent.Staff recommends a
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permanent family subdivision there as opposed to a transient type of use such
as a manufactured home park or a recreational vehicle park.The Planning and
Zoning Commission recommended approval with a 4-2 vote with one abstaining;
Commissioners Kelley -Devaney and Gifford voted in opposition,preferring to
see a commercial corner developed in the area and commenting that the home
designs being uninteresting,especially the rear of the homes.Council had
expressed concern at the work session over the long,narrow streets and little
usable open space.The streets do meet subdivision street design requirements
and they have added some open space.The subdivision does meet minimum
standards.
Associate Planner Paul Michaud
briefed the council on the preliminary plat.The Planning and Zoning
Commission recommended denial unanimously 4-0 on this plat.There had been no
changes on the plat previous to tonight and no comments had been received.
Staff looked at the private versus public streets,the lot layout,the play
areas and traffic calming devices.Four basic conditions are in the
resolution.
Councilmember Dietz asked if they
were going to have street lights.
Associate Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated the applicant agreed at the work session to do street lights.
Councilmember Dietz asked if the
homeowners would be responsible for the maintenance and paying Salt River
Project for the street lights since they will be private streets.
stated that was correct.
would be a gated community.
stated it would not be a gated community.
Associate Planner Rudy Esquivias
Councilmember Eck asked if this
Associate Planner Rudy Esquivias
Councilmember Eck asked if there was
another community like this with private streets in the city.
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Associate Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated that Kaufman and Broad have one in the works.However,those will be
cluster neighborhoods.There are a few other subdivisions in town that have
private streets.
Councilmember Eck asked if any of
those had been developed in the last couple of years.
Associate Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated there have been no recent ones.He then corrected himself to say that
Meridian Manor is a recent subdivision with private streets.
a family subdivision.
stated it is age restricted.
gated.
Councilmember Eck asked if that was
Associate Planner Rudy Esquivias
Councilmember Dietz added i t is also
Mayor Coleman commented it appears
they gave up four lots for the basketball/play area.He asked if there were
any other changes.
Associate Planner Paul Michaud
stated he just saw it for the first time tonight.It appears they have lost a
retention area and play area and incorporated it into the other area.They
may have given up only two lots.
Associate Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated the previous plat showed some additional retention areas on the sides,
but those appear to have been eliminated.
Mayor Coleman requested the
applicant address the council.
Mr.Clyde Barney,230 S.Rancho
Legante,Gilbert,addressed the council.He commented the council had been
concerned with the length of the streets,and they have been shortened to 700
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and 900 feet.The advantage of private streets is that they give more lot to
the homeowners.They do not give them 10'of "no man's land" to park their
cars in front of their houses.This will give the homeowner a larger backyard
and more control of their front yards.The homeowner is responsible for his
lot.They will put sidewalks on both sides of the street,and there will be
street lights.The city will not have to maintain the streets as they will be
private.There was concern about not having enough recreation area,so they
increased it by taking two extra lots and almost doubling that area.A total
of four lots will be used.It also doubles what the city is asking for in
retention areas.The police will be able to respond to criminal activity the
same as they would on a public street.The homeowners may invite the police
in to take care of speeders,but the streets are short enough to deter that.
There was a concern of too many kids for the schools,but they feel like
families are essential to any community.
Mayor Coleman asked if they would
now be putting sidewalks on both sides of the street.
had contacted the sewer district yet.
contacted the sewer district.
was done.
Mr.Clyde Barney stated they would.
Councilmember Urich asked if they
Mr.Clyde Barney stated they had
Councilmember Urich asked when that
Mr.Duran Thompson,DMN Engineering,
1783 W.University,Tempe,stated the sewer district was contacted in August.
They already have a will serve letter from the district.He added they feel
they are creating a closed -in,walled -off community by not having the streets
flow into Tomahawk.It will service itself.He commented they about doubled
the open space required.The streets will be built to city standards,if not
exceed them,by having aprons.These will be for speed control and drainage
purposes.He explained this theory.He commented they would be willing to
work with staff on the ideas of speed bumps,3 -way stop signs at intersections
and crosswalks,and other ideas.They feel they have met or exceeded
requirements.
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Councilember Eck asked where the
utilities would be located.
Mr.Duran Thompson stated they
created public utility easements for gas and electric.The water and sewer
will actually be in the streets.
Councilmember Eck commented the
water company would have to come and repair a leak in the private road.
Mr.Duran Thompson stated they will
be developing tracts which will be used as easements for utilities.They will
have permission without having to get permission to service the development.
Councilmember Eck asked who would be
making sure that a street patch was done appropriately.
Mr.Duran Thompson stated they have
not developed a set of CC&R's for the subdivision.As the improved plans are
developed,the CC&R's will be developed.
Councilmember Eck commented the city
would not have any authority to do anything if a citizen calls ten years from
now and states that the private road is bad.The city will be depending on a
homeowners association to make sure the appropriate repairs have been made.
Mr.Duran Thompson stated that is
the intent.The dues are being paid to manage those types of things.
Councilmember Eck asked where the
nearest commercial area would be where someone could go and get a snack,since
they are taking away the commercial zoning for this corner.
Mr.Duran Thompson stated he does
not know where the closest one would be.
Councilmember Eck stated it is about
two miles away.
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There was general discussion as to
the closest convenience store or fast food restaurant.
losing commercial to approve residential.
needed to support the commercial.
do need rooftops.
Councilmember Eck commented he hated
Mr.Clyde Barney stated families are
Councilmember Eck agreed that they
Councilmember Durbala commented the
residents would be paying for the street lights and the road repair.There
will also be a homeowners association.He asked for a rough estimate for the
costs to the homeowners,and if they would be assessed by property values or
per home.
Mr.Clyde Barney stated they would
probably be assessed per home.He commented Trend Homes would be figuring
that out.At another subdivision he has worked with they charge $45 per
month.
Councilmember Durbala stated some of
the subdivisions already charge more than that now.He asked how they would
be able to maintain the roads on that amount,as it is only $550 per year.
Mr.Clyde Barney stated that is per
home.
Councilmember Durbala stated there
are other subdivisions larger than this charging more than this.
Mr.Clyde Barney stated they may
have a recreation center and swimming pool which this subdivision does not
have.
Councilmember Durbala asked for a
rough estimate on the cost of chip sealing the roads every five years.
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Mr.Clyde Barney stated it would
cost around $15,000 to $20,000.
Councilmember Durbala stated they
would need to have $20,000 every five years to chip seal the street.It
appears it may have to be more than $45 per month as there will be other
common areas that will have to be maintained.
Mr.Clyde Barney stated he did not
think it would have to be that high.They can pencil it out so that i t
maintains itself.
Councilmember Durbala asked Doug
Dobson if the cost estimate on chip sealing was correct.
Public Works Director Doug Dobson
stated it runs about $20,000 per mile.
Councilmember Durbala estimated 1.5
miles in the subdivision.He was concerned that the property owners should be
made aware of all of the charges before they buy the properties.The council
has heard horror stories of people not being told about the lighting
districts.Things are sometimes overlooked during the procedures for buying a
house.
Mr.Clyde Barney stated they will
receive a public report from the real estate department that spells all of
that out.
Councilmember Durbala commented they
usually give you a little short one when you go to look at the homes and then
when one goes to sign the papers it is suddenly thicker.He wants to be sure
they are aware they will be responsible for all of these things.He also
finds it hard to believe that $45 a month will cover all the costs.
Mr.Clyde Barney commented their
concerns are good,as people can be led astray.But a public report and a
copy of the CC&R's must be given to the buyer when a sale is being made.It
is all spelled out.
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Councilmember Durbala commented they
had widened the streets to the normal standards.
Mr.Clyde Barney stated they had
always been that way.
Councilmember Durbala asked why they
could not be turned over to the city for maintenance instead of having them do
it themselves.
Mr.Duran Thompson stated the
purchaser has a concept in mind that he has tried to illustrate;it being a
family and closed community.It is becoming a trend in this city and in other
places.If you have a right-of-way up to the sidewalks,it creates an area
that the homeowners do not have to maintain and it eventually turns to dust.
People pull cars up on top of the sidewalk.It is within the right-of-way,so
they are within their rights to do it.
Councilmember Durbala stated they
can put in the CC&R's that they cannot drive up on the sidewalks.
Vice Mayor Surra commented they do
not do that where there are sidewalks,only where there are not any sidewalks.
Councilmember Durbala commented they
are making it sound worse than it really is.The CC&R's should be saying that
they cannot park out front,that they have to park in their driveway.He
commented he believes what they are saying is hogwash.Public streets are
very important as the city can maintain them;he does not want homeowners
coming back in 10 to 15 years and complaining about potholes not being
repaired.If the homeowners association goes defunct or starts assessing
higher rates to these people,these people will complain to the city council.
He believes it would be better if the city took care of the streets.
to create a private subdivision.He was
that they do not want something with the
bowl,which is why he made that comment.
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Mr.Duran Thompson stated they want
told by a planning and zoning member
cars parked out front creating a dust
It seemed to make sense.
Mayor Coleman commented other
private roads have been turned over to the city after a number of years.He
asked staff how the length of these streets will compare with the Azure Skies
Subdivision.
Associate Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated the streets in Azure Skies are longer,being approximately 1/4 mile.
Councilmember Eck asked about the
subdivision east of Azure Skies.
Associate Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated they have some long streets,but their streets curve.
Councilmember Eck commented he
recalled they wanted something in that subdivision so that the streets would
not be just straight.
Mr.Duran Thompson commented they
agreed with the length being 1320 for several reasons.It has to do with
design speed,but it also minimizes the amount of intersections,which is what
they try to do.It becomes a safety issue.
Councilmember Eck asked if he
thought it would be beneficial for this subdivision to have a commercial
corner there.
Mr.Clyde Barney stated they looked
at that,and they are for that.They have 15 acres of commercial on the
corner of Southern and Meridian.They would like to keep that commercial,but
they need the people to support that.It will be a while before anything is
built on the state land south of that.It is too far from the freeway for a
hotel;a franchise came in and looked at it and determined that.They have to
look at the cost of the land and the cost to support it.
Councilmember Urich stated they have
numerous family developments that are being developed or have been developed
in the city.Many of the places for winter visitors now have more and more
people living here year round.She would hate to lose the retail commercial
from that area.
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Mayor Coleman commented the only
problem is that i t is currently zoned for an RV park.This would make it less
dense than what it currently calls for,and he appreciates that.
Mr.Clyde Barney asked how efficient
the city has been in maintaining the 10'area between the sidewalk and the
homeowner's property line.
Vice Mayor Surra commented the
homeowner maintains it even though it is a right-of-way.That is in an
ordinance.They are liable for keeping it clean.She believes the caliber of
people that will be buying in this subdivision will want to keep the area
clean.She is sympathetic to the fact that the area will not support a
commercial corner there at this time.She is not concerned about a
subdivision going in there,but she is concerned about the isolation the
walled communities provide from the rest of the community.She cannot support
that.She wants to see the streets public;that the lots still have the space
they require yet have the subdivision streets meet standards.The city will
still get the calls on any problems that occur with those streets,and it will
have to answer for them.She does not like to see the burden of street
maintenance passed on to the resident of the subdivision.They still have to
pay taxes for all the other roadways that are being done.The streets are
allegedly going to exceed standards,so she cannot go along with their desire
to keep them private streets.She does like the idea of sidewalks on both
sides.
Mr.Clyde Barney commented he has
lived in a subdivision where the residents had to do the street repairs and
they felt good about it when it was done as there was a fund that had been
built up over the years to cover the problem.
Vice Mayor Surra stated they get
less wear and tear in a senior community.
Mr.Clyde Barney stated this was a
family development.It is Val Vista Lakes.
The council in general stated there
were a lot more homes involved there with different clientele.
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Mr.Clyde Barney asked that they
approve this as he is on a time limit with the buyer.He feels it will add to
the community.They may not like the private streets,but i t is better than
the alternative.It will be a beautiful subdivision.
Councilmember Eck commented though
they had addressed most of his concerns and answered his questions,he is
still concerned about the streets as the city will be getting the phone calls.
Vice Mayor Surra commented the city
will be held accountable no matter who does the work.
Councilmember Insalaco commented
that someone earlier told the council that they would be building a beautiful
subdivision,and it is one where Trend Homes is,and the front of the homes
are nice,but the rest of it look like barns.It is not a pretty subdivision
at all from any direction.This bothers him.The front of the homes look
beautiful,but the rest of the building looks like a barn with no windows.He
has stated before that this is Apache Junction and he does not care what the
other cities do.He does not want to see that in this city,and he cannot go
along with private streets.
Mr.Duran Thompson commented the
plan approval is a separate process from what they are trying to accomplish.
Councilmember Insalaco stated these
homes looked beautiful from the front,but from the back they are not.And
the city is now stuck with them.He is trying to limit the things the city is
getting stuck with.
Mr.Clyde Barney stated the back of
many homes are not aesthetic,including trailer home parks.
Mayor Coleman opened the public
hearing on the item.
Mr.Tom Schulke,1889 S.Palo Verde,
Apache Junction,addressed the council.He commented that it would take about
3 or 4 years for them to accumulate $20,000 or $30,000 for a chip seal
project.He suggested adding a stipulation to their homeowners agreement that
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they create a fund for expenses like that.These subdivisions tend to have
small garages and the longer vehicles,like extended pick-ups,will not fit in
the garage or the driveway:these then have to be parked on the street.His
concern is that the driveways be long enough to park these longer vehicles
upon.He also wanted to know the police department's opinion on gated
communities and walled -in communities.
Mr.Elliott Fisher,547 E.Quail,
Apache Junction,addressed the council.He believes this is the subdivision
where all the streets were straight and they had used traffic calming devices
that stuck out into the street to slow down the traffic.This reminds him of
the Palm Springs subdivision where all the streets have become drag strips.
The Planning and Zoning Commission voted against this subdivision and he urged
the council to do the same.
Councilmember Durbala and Mr.Fisher
had a short discussion on where the speeding was occurring in the Palm Springs
subdivision.Councilmember Durbala stated he would have the police look into
the problem.
Mr.Rick Gardner,685 W.Tepee
Street,Apache Junction,addressed the council.He commended the developer
for including sidewalks on both sides of the street.He commented they had
identified traffic calming devices on their original drawings,but those have
either disappeared or they are no longer being talked about.The traffic
calming devices would not work.The 900'and 1100'streets are an invitation
for speeding.He urged the council to think about the safety of this park.
Mayor Coleman closed the public
hearing with no one else wishing to speak.He reopened the item to council
discussion.
Councilmember Eck asked if the city
would have the same enforcement potential on a private street as on a public
street.
City Attorney Joel Stern stated the
city would not be able to enforce speeding laws since they are not dedicated
to the public.If there is violence occurring on the roadway,such as an
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assault,the police can address that issue.The only traffic offense they can
enforce is driving while intoxicated.
Councilmember Eck commented that i f
they were drunk and speeding the city could enforce it,but sober and speeding
they could not.
Public Safety Director Robert Warner
stated that was correct.
Councilmember Eck commented it
seemed like this subdivision was really close,but he believes it will come
down to whether the streets are public or private.
Mayor Coleman asked if there were
any concerns by the police department over the safety in walled communities.
Public Safety Director Robert Warner
stated,in general,the less avenues of ingress and egress you have,the
better off the subdivision is.He would not have any unusual concerns over
what he had heard about this subdivision,but that opinion is qualified as he
had not seen the plans himself.Straight streets offer a better opportunity
for officers to locate homes and addresses in emergency times,however,that
same situation lends itself to traffic complaints.It is compounded by the
fact that if it is a private street,and people call the police department to
complain about speeders,they would be told that the police department has no
jurisdiction on those streets,and people do not understand that.They would
then call the county sheriff,who would have to tell them the same thing.
These people then wonder where to get assistance.It is confusing and
difficult on both sides.
Councilmember Durbala asked if he
thought most of the homebuyers would be advised of this before they purchased
the property.
Public Safety Director Robert Warner
stated it would be speculation on his part,but he would doubt that it would
be highlighted.
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Vice Mayor Surra asked if they must
have a decision on all three items tonight,or can they do the general plan
amendment and the rezoning but hold back on the preliminary plat approval
until their concerns are addressed.
City Attorney Joel Stern stated the
general plan has to be voted on first,then the rezoning,and finally the
preliminary plat.The general plan could be voted on and the other items
continued,or all of them could be continued.If the general plan is voted on
and there is less than five in favor,everything dies.The same project could
not be brought back for a year.If the project is changed,the number of
houses or the streets,then it could be brought back.The council can move to
continue if they are not comfortable with any item.
Vice Mayor Surra commented she would
hate to hold up an entire project over how the council feels about public or
private streets.She just wants to make sure they can vote on the general
plan and rezoning and continue the preliminary plat.This way they could go
forward with the developer.She asked what would happen if they approved the
first two but could not come to an agreement on the preliminary plat.
City Attorney Joel Stern stated that
under current subdivision regulations,this plat meets all requirements.
Council may not like the private street designation,but the city cannot force
them to have public streets within the interior boundaries.
Vice Mayor Surra commented that i f
the council did not like the preliminary plat,it could impact on how they
felt about changing the zoning or general plan.
City Attorney Joel Stern stated the
general plan deals with densities.The zoning deals with the land use.The
actual configuration is involved in the preliminary plat.
Councilmember Eck asked what would
happen if the general plan amendment was approved.
City Attorney Joel Stern stated the
rezoning would still need to be voted on or continued.
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Councilmember Durbala stated they
could then continue the preliminary plat.
City Attorney Joel Stern stated the
preliminary plat and the rezoning could be continued.However,the
preliminary plat presented tonight meets all subdivision regulations.
Vice Mayor Surra commented she
thought the size of the streets did not meet standards.
Councilmember Durbala stated they do
not meet the standards for public streets;they do for private streets.
Vice Mayor Surra commented she could
see no reason to discuss this if private streets do not have to meet the
standards.
City Attorney Joel Stern commented
there was some discussion about having them dedicated as public streets.In
order to do so,they would have to meet public street standards.
Vice Mayor Surra asked if it would
be okay to dedicate them since they supposedly will exceed the standards for a
public streets.They would meet the standards though they might be different
in size.
City Attorney Joel Stern asked the
city engineer if the streets would meet the city requirements as they are
being presented.
City Engineer Paul Stears stated
they would not meet the standards for public streets as they do not have a 50'
right-of-way.
City Attorney Joel Stern stated they
would have to have a 50'right-of-way in order to be accepted for dedication;
they are only offering 32'of right-of-way.That right-of-way would meet
private street standards as it is written today.
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City Manager Curtis Shook asked if
the council would have to accept private streets in the preliminary plat.
City Attorney Joel Stern stated the
city cannot force them to dedicate the streets as a public right-of-way.
Vice Mayor Surra commented they do
not have to accept the preliminary plat as presented.
City Attorney Joel Stern stated it
meets the requirements under the subdivision regulations.
Vice Mayor Surra commented they
would have to accept the preliminary plat if it was rezoned for that.She
does not understand why that does not happen in other places.
City Attorney Joel Stern stated he
would prefer to go into executive session on this but it was not listed as an
item so he cannot.
Vice Mayor Surra commented she could
not see the need for an executive session.Everyone should be able to know
what is going on here.
City Attorney Joel Stern stated if
they approve the rezoning,the preliminary plat as presented meets city
regulations.
Councilmember Durbala commented it
would then have to be approved.
City Attorney Joel Stern stated the
council does not have to approve it.
Vice Mayor Surra stated she
understood what he was saying,but she does not like it.She needed to know
if the general plan and rezoning were approved,would the council then be
forced into accepting the preliminary plat.
City Attorney Joel Stern stated they
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are not required to vote yes.
Vice Mayor Surra stated she knew
that,but that would have been her inclination.
Mayor Coleman asked which
preliminary plat they were voting on and if staff had been given enough time
to review the plat.
Associate Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated staff received the revised preliminary plat that evening.
Vice Mayor Surra commented it is not
the one that is on their map.
Associate Planner Rudy Esquivias
commented the city can only exact a dedication of streets during a rezoning
and replatting process.
City Attorney Joel Stern stated that
was correct.
Associate Planner Rudy Esquivias
commented he believed they could approve the general plan amendment and
approve the rezoning,but they would have to delete stipulation number one,
which states the final development plan shall be in substantial compliance
with the concept plans presented during the rezoning.If that is deleted,and
the required dedication of all streets to meet city standards is added,that
could resolve the problem.They could approve the general plan amendment and
the rezoning with that change in stipulation,but not the preliminary plat,
which would tell the applicant to come back with a plat showing 50'dedicated
right-of-ways.However,that may not be acceptable to the applicant.
Mr.Duran Thompson stated they would
not do that.
City Manager Curtis Shook asked if
the property could be rezoned to other things.
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Associate Planner Rudy Esquivias
stated it is zoned for commercial/retail.
Mayor Coleman commented they have
been looking at ways for growth to pay for itself.Here is a subdivision that
wants to pay for its own streets.He was concerned about sidewalks on only
one side,but they have consented to sidewalks on both sides and they have
added more open space.He does not have a lot of concern over the private
streets as it would relieve the city of some burden.
Vice Mayor Surra commented her
greater concern is that homeowner associations will start levying higher and
higher fees in order to take care of everything they are being asked to do,
and still have these people pay all the same taxes as the others.It is
another financial burden.She believes these young families are already
paying their fair share in other ways.She would not like to see them having
to pay for all of those street improvements when the city just passed an
ordinance requiring the developer to pay for the street light improving
districts.They are already taxed for the public roads,and they will have to
pay an extra amount for their private roads.She commented if she has to vote
no on everything to support lower costs for the residents,she will vote no on
everything.
Councilmember Durbala agreed with
Vice Mayor Surra.He believes it is time to start saying no to some of the
developers.They come in and say they are going to do things their way and if
the council does not like it,that is tough.He added they can do other
things with the property,they have given statements as to what they are going
to do with the property if it is not approved.He does not believe the
residents should have to continually pay for something that they are already
paying for once.The lighting districts are to be paid by developer,yet in
this one they are supposed to change it and the next one may be changed yet
again.This came up due to the billing Councilmember Dietz'subdivision got.
He is concerned that these people will not be aware of the costs involved that
need to be addressed before they even move onto their properties.It will
hurt some of these people financially.He commented if the only issue
stopping this developer from building this project is the denial of private
streets,than he feels that is tough as he cannot vote for something that
solid and set.It will cause more problems in the city and cost the city
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money later on when these roads are eventually taken over by the city.He
does not want to set a precedent with this subdivision.
Mayor Coleman asked if they could
deny or postpone the preliminary plat if they passed the general plan
amendment and the rezoning.
City Attorney Joel Stern stated they
could.
Vice Mayor Surra commented she does
not believe it solves the problem.They have already stated they would not
negotiate on those private streets.
Councilmember Durbala agreed.
Councilmember Eck commented the main
concern at a neighborhood block meeting is speeding,involving approximately
80% of the complaints.This subdivision would give the city less control on
it.He thinks i t is a good subdivision,but if this comes down to the
subdivision having public or private streets,he would have to deny it if it
had private streets.
Mayor Coleman closed the discussion
with no further comments and called for a motion.
Councilmember Eck MOVED THAT
RESOLUTION NO.99-63,A RESOLUTION OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF APACHE JUNCTION,ARIZONA,APPROVING GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT GPA-99-02,A
REQUEST FOR A LAND USE REDESIGNATION FROM "C"(COMMERCIAL)AND "IND"(BUSINESS
PARK/INDUSTRIAL)TO "MD"(MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL/1 TO 6 DWELLINGS PER
ACRE/CONVENTIONAL HOMES ONLY),FOR A 40 GROSS ACRES PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE
NORTHEAST CORNER OF S.TOMAHAWK ROAD AND E.BASELINE AVENUE,BE DENIED.
Councilmember Durbala asked to offer
an alternative motion before a second is accepted.He wanted to make a motion
to continue all three items to the next regularly scheduled meeting in
February to give the applicant a chance to think about what the council was
saying up here before anything was voted on.
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Councilmember Eck withdrew his
motion.
Councilmember Durbala MOVED THAT ALL
THREE ITEMS BE CONTINUED TO THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING IN FEBRUARY,
THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY.
Councilmember Urich SECONDED THE
MOTION.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly asked
if they would want this on the February 1 meeting and the January 31 work
session.
Councilmember Durbala stated that
was correct.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
Mayor Coleman called for a ten
minute break.
Mayor Coleman reconvened the
meeting.
PROPOSED RESOLUTION NO.99-60/FINAL PLAT
FOR LOST DUTCHMAN GARDENS.CASE SD -99-01 )
)Long Range Planner Kate Morris
briefed the council on the item.It is located at Lost Dutchman Boulevard and
Warner Drive in the southwest corner.This is a 10 acre parcel.All of the
improvement plans are in and signed off on,all of the certifications to
construct are there and ready to go.This is hard zoning with lots ranging
from 7144 sq.ft.to 9000+ sq.ft and it has public streets.The costs of the
street lights will be borne by the developer.These residents will only be
assessed for maintenance and power.She gave a brief description of the homes
and advised the applicant was in attendance.
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Councilmember Insalaco commented it
is refreshing to see some designs without the garage stuck out front.
Councilmember Eck asked how soon
they can start grading after the preliminary plat is approved.
Long Range Kate Morris stated they
can apply for an excavation and grading permit after all of the grading and
hydrology portions of the improvement plans have received engineering approval
from the city engineer.That usually occurs 2-3 weeks before the council sees
the final plat.
Councilmember Urich commented she is
pleased with the area the developer chose to develop in,and she hopes he
finds other areas to develop in Apache Junction.
Long Range Planner Kate Morris added
this is one of the few sites where it will have pristine desert;it will not
all be bladed down.There has been some salvage and there will be
revegetation of similar size.
Councilmember Insalaco commented
they are having a developer follow the plans for a change.
Mayor Coleman requested the
applicant address the council.
Mr.Ladell Call,8660 E.Waterford
Circle in Queen Creek,addressed the council.He had nothing further to add
and was there to answer any questions.
Vice Mayor Surra asked if there
would be any hidden costs involved for any homeowners purchasing one of his
lots.
Mr.Ladell Call stated he may have
to redo his homeowners association fees.He thought they were going to have a
street light improvement district and they had considered private lighting in
front of the houses,but the cost is not effective.He was unaware of the
ordinance passing on the cost of the street lights to the developer until
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tonight.It will be a cost but it should not kill him.He does wish that the
city would take over the maintenance of the retention areas as he does not
like homeowners associations.There is great contention in them,but he does
agree to have one to take care of Tract A.At this time the allotment is $25
a month which should far exceed what it will cost to maintain Tract A and the
perimeter.This should be adequate as there are many people who do not pay
their homeowners association fees.It is about double what it needs to be,
giving them excess funds for something within Tract A in regards to playground
equipment or other things in the future.
Vice Mayor Surra asked staff what is
the general rule of thumb regarding Tract A being maintained by a homeowners
association or the developer putting it in and turning it over to the city.
Development Services Director Glen
Van Nimwegen stated he believes parks like this are a burden for the Parks and
Recreation Department to maintain.He believes they would want something at
least 5 to 10 acres in size before they would maintain it.
City Manager Curtis Shook stated if
they took anything smaller they would be creating an area with "postage stamp"
parks.It would take more time than is cost effective to move the equipment
around.
Vice Mayor Surra stated these are
basically retention areas that are not used by the public at large.
Mayor Coleman opened the public
hearing on the item.There being no one wishing to speak,he closed the
public hearing and reopened the item to council discussion.
Councilmember Eck commented he
really liked the subdivision and he wished they would see more like this.
Mayor Coleman closed the discussion
and called for a motion.
Councilmember Dietz MOVED THAT
RESOLUTION NO.99-60,A RESOLUTION OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF APACHE JUNCTION,ARIZONA,APPROVING THE FINAL SUBDIVISION PLAT LOST
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DUTCHMAN GARDENS SUBDIVISION,CASE NO.SD -99-01,BY A.L.C.BUILDERS,QUEEN
CREEK,ARIZONA,BE APPROVED.
Councilmember Insalaco SECONDED THE
MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
PROPOSED ORDINANCE NO.1114/ESTABLISHING
STOP SIGNS AT LOCATIONS WITHIN THE CITY )
)City Engineer Paul Stears briefed
the council on the item.Additional stop sign locations within the city have
been located along with stop signs needed in new subdivisions.He read a list
of the locations requiring stop signs.
Councilmember Eck asked if the money
for this had been collected by development fees.
City Engineer Paul Stears stated the
city requires that the developers install the signs as part of their
subdivision improvements.
Councilmember Eck asked if the
developer will be responsible for installing the signs.
City Engineer Paul Stears stated
that was correct,and they must be installed to city standards and in the
correct location.
Mayor Coleman opened the public
hearing on the item.There being no one wishing to speak,he closed the
public hearing and reopened the item to council discussion.There being no
further discussion,he called for a motion.
Councilmember Urich MOVED THAT
ORDINANCE NO.1114 BE READ BY TITLE ONLY WITH THE EMERGENCY CLAUSE AND THE
READING OF THE ENTIRE ORDINANCE BE WAIVED.
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Councilmember Dietz SECONDED THE
MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly read
the ordinance by title only with the emergency clause.
Councilmember Urich MOVED THAT
ORDINANCE NO.1114,AS READ BY THE CITY CLERK,BE APPROVED AND ADOPTED.
Councilmember Dietz SECONDED THE
MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS.
None.
NEW BUSINESS.
None.
COUNCIL DIRECTION TO STAFF ON PROPOSED LEGISLATION OR ACTION
ZONING ORDINANCE/LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE
TEXT AMENDMENTS
)Councilmember Durbala commented he
would like to see staff come back with a list of all of the things council has
directed staff to do since 1996.He would like to see what has been
completed,what is in abeyance and if the item is still a top priority.
City Manager Curtis Shook asked if
he meant everything that has been discussed since 1996 or just those things
that have been left outstanding.
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Councilmember Durbala stated it
would be those things that have been directed by the council.If they have
been completed,it should just say that they have been completed on the side.
Many directions have been given by council that have not been brought back,
such as market days,landscaping and discussions with direction to staff to
come up with things.He is primarily interested in those areas.
City Attorney Joel Stern asked if
this would be limited to zoning text amendments and the development code or
are other things included.
Vice Mayor Surra stated he has to
limit it according to the title of the item.
Councilmember Durbala stated it is
those things in particular.However,he had discussed the other issues with
the city manager previously.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
reminded the council that there is no work session in two weeks.
There was general discussion by
council and the city clerk on the possibility of a small work session prior to
the January 18 meeting.
Mayor Coleman closed the discussion
and called for a motion.
Councilmember Durbala MOVED THAT
WITHIN 60 DAYS STAFF BE DIRECTED TO PROVIDE A LIST OF UNCOMPLETED ITEMS WHICH
STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO COMPLETE SINCE JANUARY 1996;THE LIST SHOULD BE LIMITED
TO ZONING TEXT AMENDMENTS AND OTHER LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ISSUES.FURTHER,
ANOTHER DISCUSSION BE SCHEDULED TO CONSIDER THIS LIST WITHIN THE 60 DAY PERIOD
AT A REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING.
Councilmember Eck SECONDED THE
MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
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The motion carried.
CODIFICATION AND DISTRIBUTION OF UPDATES
TO ZONING ORDINANCE AND OTHER CHAPTERS OF
THE CITY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE
)Councilmember Durbala commented
this was discussed last night at the work session.
Vice Mayor Surra asked what kind of
direction he might be going in.She is not sure a majority of the council
will agree with this direction.
Councilmember Durbala asked if she
wanted to hear his motion.
Vice Mayor Surra stated she wanted
discussion;the motion should come after the discussion.
Councilmember Durbala commented he
wants to take all of the zoning amendments since 1994,as there have been no
revisions since then,and have those updated.Staff is using books with
things thrown into them for revisions and this is a poor way to serve the
public.Currently,he has to call staff to see if part of the code being
referred to for an upcoming meeting is up to date in his book.He should also
be able to give anyone who calls him current information.This information
needs to be updated,maintained and incorporated into the most recent
revisions for Volume II.
Vice Mayor Surra asked who this
would be distributed to.
Councilmember Durbala stated it
should be distributed to the council,code enforcement and planning.
Vice Mayor Surra commented it should
be made available to any council member who wishes to have it,but this task
appears overwhelming to her.She proposed staff being directed to find an
outsourcing arrangement in order to accomplish it.That is the issue of why
it gets behind.She is concerned that the city would have to pay for an
outside source in order to keep things up to date.
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Councilmember Durbala stated this
should have been done on a regular basis.
Vice Mayor Surra commented that i t
was not done on a regular basis.
Councilmember Durbala stated it
should have been done and it should have been updated a long time ago.He
gave as an example the developer not knowing they were supposed to install the
street lights as the book had not been updated and he had not been told,or an
individual coming for a building plan and not being able to find all the
information.
Vice Mayor Surra stated she
understood his concern,but she is concerned about what kind of direction he
is going to give the staff.She does not want them overburdened by his
requiring them to dolt in-house.
Mayor Coleman closed the discussion
and called for a motion.
Councilmember Durbala MOVED THAT
STAFF,WITHIN 60 DAYS,PRESENT COUNCIL A WORK PLAN ON HOW VOLUME I I OF THE
CITY CODE WILL BE UPDATED AND MAINTAINED.In other words,that means they can
come back with a number of things that they like including outside sourcing if
they need to.SO THAT ANY CHANGES CAN BE INCORPORATED TO THE MOST RECENT
VERSION OF THE PERTINENT CODE PROVISIONS WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE ADOPTION OF
SUCH PROVISIONS.THIS DIRECTION SHALL APPLY TO ALL CHANGES TO VOLUME II WHICH
HAVE BEEN ADOPTED SINCE 1994 AND ANY SUBSEQUENT CHANGES IN THE FUTURE.
Councilmember Eck SECONDED THE
MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
SELECTION OF MEETING DATES.TIMES.LOCATIONS.AND PURPOSES
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Councilmember Durbala MOVED THAT
SINCE CITY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED ON MONDAY,JANUARY 17,2000 IN OBSERVANCE OF
CIVIL RIGHTS DAY,NO WORK SESSION WILL BE HELD ON THAT DAY,I MOVE THAT AN
EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 6:00 P.M.AND A WORK SESSION FOLLOWING THE EXECUTIVE
SESSION BE HELD ON TUESDAY,JANUARY 18,2000,IN THE CITY CONFERENCE ROOM AND
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS RESPECTIVELY.
Vice Mayor Surra suggested a 5:30
p.m.executive session time in order to allow them time for a work session if
needed.
Councilmember Durbala withdrew his
motion.
Vice Mayor Surra MOVED THAT AN
EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 5:30 P.M.AND A WORK SESSION AT 6:00 P.M.BE HELD ON
TUESDAY,JANUARY 18,2000,IN THE CITY CONFERENCE ROOM AND CITY COUNCIL
CHAMBERS RESPECTIVELY.
Councilmember Dietz SECONDED THE
MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
INFORMATION AND REPORTS
Mayor Coleman announced that the attorney general,the mayor of Mesa and
himself,and the police chiefs of Apache Junction and Mesa would be
participating in a town hall on senior issues at the Community Center,201 N.
Center,Mesa,from 10:00 a.m.to noon tomorrow.
ADJOURNMENT
)Mayor Coleman adjourned the
meeting at 9:25 p.m.
Consent Agenda Items are as follows:
1.Acceptance of Agenda.
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2.Acceptance of Minutes of Regular Meeting of December 7,1999.
3.Recognition of Outstanding Service to the Community by City Employees.
Employees receiving recognition are:Public Works Department employees.
4.Award of Bid Proposal PW 99-31,West Apache Trail/Old West Highway
Crossover Study.
ACCEPTED THIS 18TH DAY OF JANUARY ,2000,BY THE MAYOR AND CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF APACHE JUNCTION,ARIZONA.
SIGNED AND ATTESTED TO THIS 18TH DAY OF JANUARY ,2000.
ATTEST:
KATHLEEN CONNELLY
City Clerk
DOUGLAS/COLEMAN
Mayor
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and correct copy of the
minutes of the regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Apache
Junction,Arizona,held on the 4th day of January,2000.I further certify
that the meeting was duly called and held and that a quorum was present.
Dated this 11th day of January,2000.
KATHLEEN CONNELLY
City Clerk
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