HomeMy WebLinkAbout2017-07-18 City Council Regular MinutesCITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING
JULY 18, 2017
The regular meeting of the City Council of the City of
Apache Junction, Arizona, was held on July 18, 2017, at the
Apache Junction City Council Chambers pursuant to the notice
required by law.
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Serdy called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
INVOCATION
Councilmember Rizzi gave the Invocation.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Councilmember Waldron led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
Councilmembers Present:Mayor Serdy
Vice Mayor Wilson
Councilmember Barker
Councilmember Evans
Councilmember Rizzi
Councilmember Struble
Councilmember Waldron
Staff Present:City Manager Bryant Powell
Assistant City Manager Matt Busby
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
City Attorney Joel Stern
Public Works Director Michael Weyer
Development Services Director Larry
Kirch
Others Present:Public Information Officer Al Bravo
Captain Arnold Freeman
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City Prosecutor Eric Yuva
ACCEPTANCE OF CONSENT AGENDA
)Councilmember Barker MOVED
THAT THE CONSENT AGENDA BE ACCEPTED AS PRESENTED; AND
THAT THE RECEIPT OF THE ANNUAL REPORT OF THE APACHE JUNCTION
PUBLIC LIBRARY BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR 2016-2017 FISCAL YEAR BE
ACKNOWLEDGED; AND
THAT THE APPOINTMENT OF MICHAEL WEVER TO THE POSITION OF PUBLIC
WORKS DIRECTOR BE RATIFIED.
Councilmember Waldron
SECONDED THE MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
AWARDS, PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS
Mayor Serdy read a proclamation designating August 2017 as Child
Support Awareness Month and presented it to Daren Sweet,
Community Initiatives Region Outreach Supervisor of the Division
of Child Support Services.
Mayor Serdy read a proclamation designating August 7, 2017 as
National Purple Heart Day and presented it to Mike and Craig of
the Veterans of Foreign Wars.
ANNOUNCEMENT OF CURRENT EVENTS
Councilmember Struble thanked the staff and volunteers who
participated and helped out at the July Fourth Celebration.The
Kiwanis had a booth with a number of distinguished citizens
allowing people to throw wet sponges at them and he thanked them
for that.The fireworks were amazing.
Councilmember Rizzi thanked Republic Services for their
partnership for the fireworks show.
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Mayor Serdy announced on August 7 across from the focal point
and where the flags are there will be a presentation at 6 or 7
p.m. for National Purple Heart Day.They had a small turnout
last year and he encouraged people to attend for a larger
turnout this year.
Mayor Serdy announced he believes there is going to be a wing
cook -off at the Hitching Post involving 7-8 restaurants sometime
this Sunday afternoon.
Mayor Serdy announced Apache Junction Idol is taking place at
Lucky Strikes every Sunday at 4 p.m.They have already done
country, they are doing classic rock now and later old time rock
'n roll.In September they will have a sing off of the winners
for the Apache Junction Idol.
Mayor Serdy announced there will be a community meeting in the
Royal Palm area tomorrow evening at St. George's Catholic Church
at 6:30 p.m.He encouraged other areas who are interested in
having a community meeting to contact Al Bravo or himself.
Mayor Serdy announced the Apache Junction Junior Girls Little
League team won the state championship.The regionals are in
Tucson and they could use money for hotels.If they win there
they will go on to Seattle and he encouraged the community to
get together and help them.
CITY MANAGER'S REPORT
City Manager Bryant Powell commented on the Junior Girls Little
League team, the ratification of Mike Weyer, the library report,
Chief Kelly being named a board chair for an FBI program and
read a letter thanking Officer Ruan for a welfare check.
Mr. Chris Coyle, general manager of Republic Services, gave a
brief update on the last quarterly clean-up and gave a
presentation on composting.
Councilmember Struble asked if the composting is being placed
near sewer treatment plants or anything like that in California
where there are already air quality issues they have to
maintain.
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Mr. Chris Coyle stated he could say yes and no.In Imperial
there is one off of Interstate 8 right before one turns north
heading up into Brawley.That is in the middle of nowhere.
There is a composting facility in the Bay area that is across
the street from the wastewater treatment facility.That whole
area is having odor issues in general with the wastewater
treatment plant and the composting.They are pointing fingers
at each other.That may be the best location ideally but it is
easier to control the odor at a wastewater treatment plant than
a composting facility.
Councilmember Struble commented one of the items was diapers.
Mr. Chris Coyle stated that is correct.They remove the plastic
from the inner lining which is cotton fiber and human waste.
That is organic.
Councilmember Struble asked who removes it.
Mr. Chris Coyle stated it is not him.
Councilmember Struble commented that is one of those jobs where
they ask what is your worst job in the world.
Mr. Chris Coyle stated it would be close to the top of the list.
Vice Mayor Wilson commented one of the things he did not mention
is that part of the problem is the fire danger.It does heat up
and get very warm.There is a possibility of a fire.He asked
if California has been experiencing a lot of fires and how they
work on that.
Mr. Chris Coyle stated he does not have an answer to that.They
have their annual fire in West Phoenix with the attempted
compost facility.It is more of a green waste, grinding
facility, not a true compost facility.They are not even trying
to cook the material and the material gets that hot where it
will spontaneously combust.Here they are trying to heat up the
material.They want the microbes to get to work and have a
nice, warm environment.They are doing that intentionally.
With the right management, the right people, they will mitigate
those risks as much as possible but there is always that risk.
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Councilmember Struble commented when he was growing up they had
a little 4'X 4' or 5'X 5' section where they did compost for
just their house.You did not want to be downwind from it.
Councilmember Rizzi commented he mentioned something called an
air permit.She asked what that is.
Mr. Chris Coyle stated they go through Pinal County and they
need an air quality permit for the activities they do onsite.
They have to quantify them as to how many engines they have that
are portable, that are stationary, they have to have certain
dust control measures, they have to determine how many tons they
take in each day at the facility, they have to put down an "x"
number of gallons of water to ensure they have adequate dust
control and those types of things.
Councilmember Rizzi commented he mentioned Tempe has a site
where they are giving it away for free.She asked if one has to
be a resident.
Mr. Chris Coyle stated he believed so.
Councilmember Barker thanked him for bringing this to the
council.She has had a lot of citizens ask her why the city
does not have a compost facility here.She wanted people to be
able to hear why we do not.
Mr. Chris Coyle stated if she gets any further inquiries she can
feel free to send them his way and he will take care of it.
Mr. Larry Johnson, president/chief executive officer of the
Apache Junction Chamber of Commerce, gave a presentation on the
performance of the Visitor Information Center.
Mayor Serdy asked where the window coverings were made.
Mr. Larry Johnson stated they were made at Ray's Printing.He
continued with his presentation.
Councilmember Waldron commented the windows look really good.
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Mr. Larry Johnson stated Ray's did a wonderful job, not only in
the design.They had a local photographer take a lot of those
images as well.
Councilmember Waldron commented it makes a big difference for
the building.
Councilmember Struble asked if they have any plans for an
innovative way to reach out to people outside of the community
to get them to the community.
Mr. Larry Johnson stated he does but he does not want to put
things out there before he can get some confirmation.One
example would be the Renaissance Festival.They are working
very closely with them.They realize there is a tremendous
volume of consumers that are driving right by our community,
often congesting our roadways and discouraging commerce from
occurring here.They want to maximize and capitalize on that
opportunity.They are at the front door and all but knocking.
We need to show them what we have.He reached out to the
Renaissance Festival and he will be following up later this week
on that communication.Most of the people attending the
Renaissance Festival would certainly appreciate a lot of the
attractions we have in and around the area but they are not
aware of them.He wants to reach out to that group and see if
there is any way they can partner with them, get a little more
collaboration just he has done with the Apache Trail Attractions
group.They can scratch each other's back with advertisements.
He would like to get the Renaissance Festival in on that effort
so we can support them and they in turn support us.There are
other things but he would like to have them hammered out so he
can give them the end result.
Councilmember Struble asked if there is anything in the works to
help the community get educated about what benefits the winter
visitors have for the community.
Mr. Larry Johnson asked if he meant educating the year round
residents about the benefits of the winter visitors.
Councilmember Struble commented that is correct.
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Mr. Larry Johnson stated that is an ongoing and continuous,
usually one on one discussion he has.If one gets into public
conversations they end up with a lot of people who are a little
bit less informed.They do not realize the impacts.Without
the winter visitors our businesses would not exist.This
chamber would not exist.The average member of the community
does not understand that.Everything is reliant upon business.
That is something he cannot get out on a public forum and say.
It has to be a one on one conversation.It is funny because he
got a haircut recently and had the very same conversation while
there.He gets questioned endlessly and more often it is just
about a lack of information or incorrect information.As far as
a plan, he wants to state more about the impact of the winter
visitors but they need a little more data to actually be able to
put it out there.They just keep tooting their own horn and
boasting about the impact of the visitors.He does not know how
else to do it without turning anyone on defensively.
Mayor Serdy commented the aisles are going to be wider at the
new Fry's.
Councilmember Waldron commented he has working out on the Trail
with Discount Tire.
Mr. Larry Johnson stated they are reaching out to them.These
are things that are in the works.He does not like to get too
far ahead of himself but the objective is that project if it
moves forward.He has been reaching out to the realtor and he
is trying to get into the corporate offices to assure they will
have a great neighborly relationship preferably with roadside
signage.He would like to have an electronic sign that is on
the property.
Councilmember Waldron asked if that is on the Trail.
Mr. Larry Johnson stated it is in proximity.He is hoping they
will be embracing that kind of extension of neighborhood
involvement.If they get an electronic sign they would not
necessarily repeat exactly what the city is doing but they could
promote local events and attractions.There are a lot of things
they are working on but he would like to come in with finished
results of what they would actually be doing rather than just
hopes.They are always trying to work for the next best thing
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and look for opportunities to expose our area in a positive
light.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
APPLICATION FOR AN INTERIM PERMIT,
NEW LICENSE, LIMITED LIABILITY
COMPANY, SERIES 10 LIQUOR LICENSE
FOR SHELL 1621 )
)City Clerk Kathleen
Connelly briefed the council on the item.
Mayor Serdy requested the
applicant address the council.The applicant declined to speak
to the council.He opened the public hearing on the item.
There being no one wishing to speak, he closed the public
hearing and reopened the item to council discussion.
Councilmember Waldron
commented he believed this is just going back to the original
owner.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated that is correct.
Mayor Serdy closed the
discussion with no further comments and called for a motion.
Councilmember Rizzi MOVED
THAT THE APPLICATION FOR AN INTERIM PERMIT, NEW LICENSE, LMITED
LIABILITY COMPANY, SERIES 10 LIQUOR LICENSE, SUBMITTED BY DEV
BASNET, BE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL TO THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF
LIQUOR LICENSES AND CONTROL.
Vice Mayor Wilson SECONDED
THE MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
PROPOSED APACHE JUNCTION CITY CODE,
VOLUME I, CHAPTER 9 HEALTH AND
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SANITATION, ARTICLE 9-1 PROPERTY
MAINTENANCE STANDARDS, OLEANDER
PROHIBITION AMENDMENTS
)City Attorney Joel Stern
briefed the council on the item.
Councilmember Waldron asked
if it would include the whole city as far as oleanders being
declared a health hazard.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated it would be declared a public nuisance and, therefore,
also a health hazard.Any oleanders would be considered a
public nuisance.That would then immunize the city not 100% but
if it is in the code, there would be some whereas clauses in the
ordinance and probably in the ordinance that declares it a
public nuisance.Someone then cannot say the city has
diminished their value because the city made them take down a
row of oleanders.
Councilmember Rizzi commented
a neighbor can file a complaint and it will go from there.It
is not a straight out ban, they are just saying they have to
maintain them so they are not growing over onto the neighbor's
property.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated that is correct.This is a compromise to a total ban.
It states no person shall maintain, grow, keep or plant any
oleander tree or shrub in the city unless it is maintained,
grown, kept or planted in a location or size in which it is not
accessible to horses on adjoining properties or in such a manner
in which the leaves are contained on the property from which the
plant is maintained, grown, kept or planted.Enforcement of the
subsection shall be complaint driven.It means they can have
oleanders but if they are in such a location that they are a
danger to horses, then there would be a violation.There would
be some discretion for the code officer to work with the
apparent violator and ask them to cut the oleanders or put up a
barrier of some kind.
Councilmember Waldron asked
if someone could be liable if they have property that has
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oleanders that is not adjacent to horse property but because of
a monsoon storm their leaves ended up on horse property.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated if there is a complaint made to code enforcement they
would check into that.They would determine whether that was a
possibility.
Vice Mayor Wilson commented
he lives in a large lot area and he does have horses.He has
gone around his neighborhood and there are people with oleanders
with the closest being two lots away from him.They are each
1.25 acre lots.They are on all four sides of him so he is
totally surrounded by adjacent properties that have oleanders
but they are not right next to him.He has yet to see an
oleander leaf on his property since he moved there in 1990.
That particular problem, if they have an oleander that is
currently growing, is really not an issue because it is not very
prevalent.He has one person that has a huge row of oleanders
and he can understand that if the neighbor had animals there
would be a problem because those leaves are staying fairly close
to where the plant is.
Councilmember Struble asked
what happens if city staff tells the landowner to trim it down
and they do not if there is a complaint by a neighbor and city
staff goes there and determines that maybe it should be trimmed
down or something.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated for enforcement there is a civil process.They would
probably get an official letter of violation.If they do not
abide by that they would then get a civil citation.The first
one would be $250, the second one within 24 months would be $500
and the third one within 24 months would be $750.For any
Chapter 9 violation after that, the criminal process would take
over.He asked Eric to explain how the criminal process would
work.
City Prosecutor Eric Yuva
stated it would be very similar to the civil process.The code
compliance officer sends letters to warn them and give them a
deadline to repair it.If they do not then they would see him.
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If there is a fourth violation he would probably offer a $1,000
fine after the three previous ones.In the four years he has
been here, for any of these Chapter 9 violations, they have had
one person who has had three violations within 24 months and the
fourth one came to him.It is very rare that it would happen
but it could.
Councilmember Rizzi asked if
there was anything currently in place that would force a person
to maintain a growth, tree, bush, shrub or whatever on their
property or they would be in violation.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated there is a limited enforcement section that if something
is dead or decaying or in such a state that it is not
presentable, there is.In the case of something that is living,
thriving and growing over someone's wall, there is not.It is
more of a civil dispute between the two neighbors.If it is
growing over someone's wall and is in the air space of the
adjoining property owner, they can actually cut it.They could
get into a lawsuit over that but if it is growing into someone's
property it is called a civil trespass.That is the civil
violation.
Councilmember Rizzi commented
but code compliance would not come out.Say she is a stubborn
neighbor and she refuses to trim her tree.It is wrecking
Dave's roof or whatever and she refuses to do anything about it.
There is no mechanism in place for code compliance to come out
and say they are going to take care of it or they will be given
a ticket.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated if it is a tree limb that is intruding on another
person's property or it is hitting their roof because the houses
are close together, that is a civil dispute.If it is in the
air space of the adjoining property owner that property can do
self-help and actually cut the tree limb or whatever it is.
They can try to charge the other neighbor if they want for the
cost of doing it if it is a large tree.That has happened
before.
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Councilmember Rizzi commented
there is no protection for the neighbor that does not want the
tree overgrowing onto their property.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated there is not. Most of the cities do not regulate that.
They stay out of it.That is government going overboard.That
is how some people see it.Other communities maybe not.Some
of the high end communities it may be a real issue.There could
be stuff in their code section.
Councilmember Rizzi commented
in this case, because it has been determined that oleanders are
a hazard, there is a possible need to have a little bit more
regulation and enforcement in place.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated if they pass it as being proposed in the new
recommendation dated July 18, 2017, then yes, there is something
that could be done.This would allow for that.Getting a
ticket for $250 does not do that.That is just a ticket.The
person still is in violation.They would then get another
ticket and now it is $500.Even at $750 they could say they are
not touching it.They will pay the money and they do not care.
At one point the criminal case comes in and in criminal law they
can put someone on probation and the term of probation could be
for them to get in compliance with this code section or there
could actually be jail at that time.That is very rare on one
of these types of cases.Even before the council decriminalized
a lot of these items back in 2005 or 2006 and they became civil.
Even when they were criminalized he did not recall jail time for
this kind of thing, not for overgrowth on someone's property.
Councilmember Struble
commented there is a complaint made and code compliance goes out
there and it is overgrown.The ordinance that is in here states
that the oleander will be contained in the property.Coming
back to the point about wind, they have received a number of
letters in support of this.Some of them actually state it is
not common for horses to eat from live bushes.They would get
it from leaves that are mixed within other leaves or foliage
that is already on the ground or mixed in with the hay.That
comes back down to the question of wind.He asked how staff
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forces the landowner where the oleanders are to contain them
from wind blowing them onto another property.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated he thinks that would be an observation by the code
officer whether they believe them and it is dependent on the
size of the oleander, where it is located, if there is a wall
and whether leaves can get over the wall.It would be a
discretionary opinion of the code compliance officer.Perhaps
they will come up with some kind of standards for these kinds of
violations so that the discretion does not vary from one code
compliance officer to another.That is something he has not
talked to the director about.
Councilmember Struble
commented that would lead to staff having to develop some sort
of further code compliance in which they would be able to judge
the issue on.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated for their criteria and what the violation would be based
on.
Councilmember Struble
commented there is probably property out there.He has not
surveyed or inspected it all but there is probably property out
there that does not have 6' or 5' walls out there.There is
just maybe even a post fence separating properties with
oleanders growing on one side and not the other.He asked if
there is anything in here where the property owner is going to
be forced to build a brick wall of any certain size to contain
the oleanders.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated if they want to keep it they can do that on their own.
The city prosecutor can opine on this, but he cannot imagine the
city saying they have to build a 6' wall.He asked if the city
prosecutor had a different opinion on that.
City Prosecutor Eric Yuva
stated he did not.
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City Attorney Joel Stern
stated there was a case involving one of the group participants
where there was already a law and the offending oleanders were
cut down to a certain level after there was a request to do that
from him.There is no code that made that person do that.They
did it on their own.
Councilmember Struble
commented anytime there are ordinances or laws there are always
unintended consequences that go along with them and who knows
what that might be with this one.The council talked about just
limiting this to horses.That is what this did.But what is
stopping another group of citizens later on from coming before
the council and saying they want to insert laws for dogs or
chickens.There is obviously nothing stopping anyone from doing
that.Those are unintended consequences to limiting it to
horses with this.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated that would be a policy decision on the council depending
on who comes up.If they are convinced that a veterinarian is
saying or another expert is saying it is not just horses but
other animals in the future or even in this case.They still
have both versions.They can do what they want with this
language.There are motions in the back on the blue page.They
can agree on the first version, they can agree on this version
or with changes or they can basically take no action on this and
table it.
Mayor Serdy commented some of
those scenarios might be pretty farfetched other than llamas.
They are like horses.
Councilmember Barker
commented they had an interesting windstorm last night.It blew
pretty hard.She lives across the street from a neighbor who
has a pine tree in their backyard.It is way back there.She
spent part of the afternoon raking pine needles out of her pool.
They cannot control the wind.Those little leaves from
oleanders are so lightweight they can go for blocks.It is
ludicrous.This states only horses.She feels very strongly
that this is a back door method to avoid Proposition 207 because
horses are only in a specifically zoned area.This particular
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thing is talking about horses which means it is only talking
about that particular zoned area.To her it is a way to try to
get away from 207.
Mayor Serdy opened the public
hearing on the item.
Ms. Cathy Diroff, 860 N.
Wickiup, Apache Junction, addressed the council.She thanked
staff for all their work on this item, especially the city
attorney.She stated she and her husband first started coming
out here 18 years ago to ride their horses and decided then to
move here when they retired.They have now moved here and they
would like some consideration on protecting the horses.This
can also be a danger to dogs and children.She commented on the
red maple that is hazardous to horses where she lived in
Michigan.Now she found out about the oleanders and other
poisonous plants out here.She likes the hitching rails, water
troughs, bars and restaurants that have hitching posts and they
ride over to the library all the time to use their hitching
post.It is a nice thing.
Ms. Jackie Cross, 1018 N.
Acacia, Apache Junction, addressed the council to read a letter
from Tom and Doreen Colbert, winter visitors from Canada,
requesting the prevention of oleanders in Apache Junction.
Mr. Darryl Cross, 1018 N.
Acacia, Apache Junction, addressed the council.He stated he
was at the property referred to earlier by the city attorney
where they had cut back their oleanders and with all the wind we
have had he could not find any oleander leaves on the horse
property.A barrier does work.He fully supports the change.
People have suggested it may need a grandfather clause.He
suggested the investigating code compliance officer reasonably
determine who was there first and no action should be taken if
the oleanders were there first.This was generated because
someone had ill intent and wanted a neighbor's horses moved.
They planted the oleanders to force the horses to be moved.The
horse owner had two choices:fight it or leave the horses there
with the possibility of a horse eating a leaf and getting sick
or dying.He asked if under that situation a horse owner could
be charged with animal abuse.Apache Junction is known
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nationally as being a horse friendly community.People come
from Canada.He contrasted the amount of money brought in by
horse people and the economic benefit of oleanders.The horse
people generate a ton of revenue for the city.They are asking
for help.He requested they give them some consideration.
Mayor Serdy asked where the
text he presented is from.
City Attorney Joel Stern
asked if he meant the text on the screen.
Mayor Serdy commented that is
correct.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated Mr. Cross is the one who created it.
Mayor Serdy commented if any
motion is made that clause will not be in it.
City Attorney Joel Stern
stated it will not unless they want to put it in the motion.
The direction to staff would be for him to bring back an
ordinance.Right now they just have a draft.
Mr. Jeff Watson, 2114 N.
Warner Drive, Apache Junction, addressed the council.He stated
he keeps hearing about the wind issue, but they also have a dust
issue.The state says if we cannot keep the dust on our
property they are liable for the dust going everywhere.The
neighbor here plants oleanders.It is monsoon season.He goes
outside and sprays Roundup.He asked if he is legally
responsible for the Roundup he sprayed killing the neighbor's
plants.The wind did it.It is not his fault.They are just
asking for help and control in getting the neighbors to talk to
each other and help each other.They have ordinances against
light, it cannot be shone into his neighbor's home all night
long.He cannot have his radio playing all night long.He
thinks they should have something to control the plants.
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Mayor Serdy closed the public
hearing with no one else wishing to speak.He reopened the item
to council discussion.
Councilmember Rizzi commented
she is really torn on this is like Chip.She lives on 1.25
acres and she has a couple of burros and they roam the property.
Her neighbor is a horse owner and there is a part of their fence
that is oleanders.Before they were aware oleanders could make
them sick they really did not know and it has never been an
issue.She thinks the council wants to be supportive but if you
have a neighbor that has an issue and there is a neighbor that
intentionally tries to bring harm to an animal, she is torn in
that.She and her neighbor have a partial wall with oleanders
and the animals have never been sick.They have never eaten
anything and it has never been an issue.This is a tough one.
Jeff commented they are getting in the middle of a neighbor
dispute, we change an ordinance based on that to try to help a
group of people or an individual and we end up with unintended
consequences they do not find out about until further down the
road.Sometimes that really messes things up.So this is a
tough one.She understands where the horse owners are coming
from, she understands how important the animals are and they
have these large animals themselves.
Councilmember Waldron
commented he put this out on the website next door and he
received a lot of comments pro and con.The one that struck him
the most was a lady who wrote that she and her husband have dogs
and kids.A new neighbor moved in and planted oleanders on the
fence between them.She was very concerned about the toxicity
of them.She went over and talked to the neighbor and the
neighbor pulled them up and took them back to whatever store
they got them from and planted something else.That was a
neighborhood dispute resolved between the two neighbors.That
is what he sees this as - a neighborhood dispute.It sounds
like, from what Mr. Cross said, that the problem has been
resolved.He cut it down and the wind did not bring any leaves
over.The barrier worked.It seems to him this has been
resolved.He does not see why they need to put this into an
ordinance.
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Councilmember Evans commented
first of all she does not think there is anyone here that does
not understand the importance of horses in our community.She
was a past horse owner.After her husband passed away she had
to sell her horses.We all know how heartbreaking that is.Not
just to have one die, but to have to sell them.She still owns
5 acres in the horse area.If it is poisonous, it is poisonous.
For them to limit poisonous plants to one particular area for
one particular animal is not what they are here for.They are
here for the entire community, not just one segment who get to
come before us and present something.They have to be here for
everybody.To have this so limited to horses only is
inadequate.It does not serve any purpose.She does not ever
want to put city staff in the middle of a dispute because that
is what brought us here to begin with, a neighbor dispute.
There are other avenues to settle that and it has to be neighbor
to neighbor.This is just for one instance.There are a lot of
people in the horse area that do not have horses.They just
want to live on a large lot, have their plants and have their
privacy.Someone is there and they have their large acreage
landscaped, the acreage next to them is vacant and a horse owner
moves in.She asked how he could possibly ask them, when they
have an investment made, they put in their plants, they are
enjoying it, and they could notify them that by the way they may
not have known oleanders are poisonous to horses and could they
please keep them trimmed up.She is all for in the landscape
guidelines to have a warning.She would not just list
oleanders, she would list all ten that are on the website that
are poisonous.To only do oleanders is only one -tenth of the
job.She asked why they should go through all of this and not
name all of the plants.There is a long list of them and it
goes back to all of these plants being readily sold in Walmart
and nurseries throughout the state, Apache Junction and
surrounding communities.She asked if they should notify
everyone to stop selling them.It is definitely a possibility.
For the city to have an ordinance banning them she does not
think is the correct avenue.In our landscape design guidelines
she is all for a warning, a huge warning, and listing all ten
plants that are the most common poisonous plants.She knows
there are more than ten but these are the most poisonous to
horses, dogs, cats and most importantly, humans.This does not
fit a neighbor to neighbor problem.She trims her neighbor's
bougainvillea that grows over the fence that was blowing into
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her swimming pool.He was good with that.You work with
people.Sick horses happen for a lot of reasons.She lost a
horse because it got into' her chicken feed.A lot of things can
happen but because my neighbor has oleanders and she says her
horse must have gotten into the oleanders.Then it becomes a
witch hunt as to who has the oleanders around here.She asked
how they could expect to put city staff in the middle of that.
It would be an impossibility.The council has to worry about an
entire city, not just the horse community or areas that
currently do not have horses that are allowed to have horses.
They have to look at the whole city and not just one facet of
it.
Councilmember Struble
commented he would like to reiterate what has already been said.
He grew up in South Dakota and rode horses all his life.He
owns a property within the central part of the city and he
obviously cannot have a horse in there legally.But he agrees
with all that is being said here.The horse owners and what
they bring to the city, there is really no way to measure the
economic benefit that it brings to us.Along with the other
segments of our city, of everything that you want to talk about,
the motorcyclists, the winter visitors, the business owners, the
people who own houses and everything that goes along with it.
To reiterate what Councilmember Evans said, this is just too
vague and it leaves too much for interpretation and possible
conflict with city staff when they might rule something other
than what one of the neighbors wants.He does not think this is
appropriate.A couple of weeks ago or a month ago they had
another issue where they had to decide if they wanted to rule on
just a specific area of town and this is the same thing.The
council is there to look out for the benefit of the city, the
people who are responsible for it, not just one individual or a
small area.
Vice Mayor Wilson commented
on the aspects of the economic impact of the winter visitors and
their horses, stating he talked to three businesses in the
community to see what the impact or increase in sales that
occurs in the winter months versus the summertime and those here
year round.This is strictly in areas where they are doing
equestrian sales, not necessarily sales of animals but sales of
supplies, what is taxed, whether it is feed, and it goes
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anywhere from a high of 42% in the winter time versus summertime
to the lowest which was 26%.One can see the impact the winter
visitors have that have horses that come down to our community.
It is an attraction.There are a lot of people that come.As
they all know, he is the president of the Arizona Horse Council
and Apache Junction is known for being horse -friendly.He
thinks more than anything else the people that have the horses
would like some reassurance that the community wants to keep it
that way.They have seen an increase in the sales of property
in the community where horses have not been brought onto the
property.They have seen a large number of people that still
want to come and visit the area.To make a proper balance on
this he believes the horse community is wanting to have a
reassurance that if there is a problem like this they will have
somewhere to turn to where the issue can be addressed.That is
what they are looking for.They want someone to assist them in
addressing the problem because they are fearful it will grow.
That is what they are asking for.
Mayor Serdy commented he sees
it like Chip does.He does not see staff spending a lot of time
with this.It is just a mechanism that if there is a problem
there is a way to handle it.They have hundreds and hundreds of
people asking them for help.It is also their job to help
people.The people that live in urban areas like him it would
not affect at all.He thinks they can name it by name.
Mulberries are on here but they are not poisonous.They may
give someone a runny nose and they are banned.This is
something that is deadly and is not.He closed the discussion
with no further comments and called for a motion.
Vice Mayor Wilson MOVED TO
MOVE FORWARD WITH THE JULY 18 TO INCLUDE WHAT MR. CROSS HAS
PRESENTED VERSION TO AN ORDINANCE PREPARATION WITH A PUBLIC
HEARING ON AUGUST 1, 2017.
Councilmember Barker asked
for a clarification.He said to include what Mr. Cross
included.She asked if he was speaking of the grandfather
thing.
Vice Mayor Wilson commented
that is correct.
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Mayor Serdy SECONDED THE
MOTION.
VOTE:2-5 (Councilmembers Struble, Rizzi, Evans, Barker and
Waldron voted in opposition.
(Councilmember Rizzi commented during the vote that as much as
she supports the horse community, she is part of that herself,
the reason she is voting this way is for the unintended
consequences.They have had several cases come before them
recently and it has turned into a mess.She loves the horse
community, she is a part of it, but this time she feels bad but
she has to say no.)
(Councilmember Evans commented during the vote that she has to
say no and she also recommends they start with the state
legislature to put a ban on selling those plants.It is a
better place to go.)
(Councilmember Barker commented during the vote that she wishes
absolutely no harm to any animal, horses or any other, but she
does not believe this is the answer.)
The motion failed.
another motion.
TAKE NO FURTHER ACTION.
SECONDED THE MOTION.
Mayor Serdy called for
Councilmember Evans MOVED TO
Councilmember Waldron
VOTE:5-2 (Mayor Serdy and Vice Mayor Wilson voted in
opposition.)
(Councilmember Waldron commented during the vote he thinks
Councilmember Evans had the idea that they need to go to the
legislature with this and that would be a place to start.)
The motion carried.
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OLD BUSINESS
None.
NEW BUSINESS
None.
DIRECTION TO STAFF
PROPOSED CHANGES TO CITY CODE
CHAPTER 8 BUSINESS AND CITY TAX
CODE IN AREAS OF LICENSING,
VENDORS, BUSINESS LICENSE FEES, TAX
LICENSING FEES AND HEALTH
DEPARTMENT APPROVAL FOR TEMPORARY
FOOD AND BEVERAGE VENDORS )
)City Clerk Kathleen
Connelly briefed the council on the item.
Councilmember Waldron asked
if they were to go with this one option for the fees there are
some blanks in there.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated they would need to fill those in.If they do something
different from what was discussed last night and she has to go
back and recalculate the revenue loss and gain, she will not
make the Thursday deadline for getting this on the website in
which case they are looking further down the road.
Mayor Serdy closed the
discussion and called for a motion.
Councilmember Barker MOVED
THAT THE FOLLOWING DIRECTION BE GIVEN TO STAFF REGARDING
PROPOSED CHANGES TO CITY CODE CHAPTER 8 BUSINESS AND CITY TAX
CODE IN THE AREAS OF LICENSING, VENDORS, BUSINESS LICENSE FEES,
TAX LICENSE FEES AND HEALTH DEPARTMENT APPROVAL FOR TEMPORARY
FOOD AND BEVERAGE VENDORS:THAT STAFF PROCEED WITH MAKING THE
CHANGES TO CITY CODE CHAPTER 8 AND THE CITY TAX CODE AS OUTLINED
IN THE CITY CLERK'S PRESENTATIONS OF JULY 17, 2017 AND JULY 18,
2017;
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I FURTHER MOVE THAT THE FEE FOR THE CITY TRANSACTION PRIVILEGE
TAX LICENSE BE CHANGED TO $2.00 AND THAT WE ADD A BUSINESS
LICENSE FEE OF $50.00;
I FURTHER MOVE THAT NOTIFICATION OF THE PROPOSED FEES AND
CHARGES BE POSTED ON THE CITY WEBSITE IN ACCORDANCE WITH A.R.S.
§9-499.15 AND THAT A PUBLIC HEARING ON THESE CODE CHANGES, FEES
AND CHARGES BE SCHEDULED FOR THE COUNCIL MEETING OF SEPTEMBER
19, 2017.
Councilmember Rizzi SECONDED
THE MOTION.
Councilmember Struble
commented they currently have a business license fee of $50 for
non -retail.He asked if this has to mention that we are.
City Clerk Kathleen Connelly
stated it is because of the reference to last night's
presentation.That is what she took that as meaning.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
SELECTION OF MEETING DATES, TIMES, LOCATIONS, AND PURPOSES
Councilmember Waldron MOVED
THAT AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 6:00 P.M. AND A WORK SESSION AT
7:00 P.M. BE HELD ON MONDAY, JULY 31, 2017, IN THE CITY COUNCIL
CONFERENCE ROOM AND CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS RESPECTIVELY;
AND THAT AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 6:00 P.M. BE HELD ON TUESDAY,
AUGUST 1, 2017, IN THE CITY COUNCIL CONFERENCE ROOM.
Councilmember Rizzi SECONDED
THE MOTION.
VOTE:Unanimous.
The motion carried.
CALL TO THE PUBLIC
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Ms. Tess Nesser, 1511 S. Cactus, Apache Junction, addressed the
council regarding the Boys and Girls Club annual Bowl-a-Thon on
August 12.
ADJOURNMENT
)Mayor Serdy adjourned the
meeting at 9:48 p.m.
Consent Agenda Items are as follows:
1. Consideration of acceptance of agenda.
2. Consideration of approval of minutes of special meeting of
June 19, 2017.
3. Consideration of approval of minutes of regular meeting of
June 20, 2017.
4. Acknowledge receipt of the Annual Report of the Apache
Junction Public Library Board of Trustees for 2016-2017
Fiscal Year.
5. As required by Apache Junction City Code, Volume 1, Chapter 3
Administration, Article 3-5 Department of Public Works,
Section 3-5-1 Department Established, subsection D, the city
manager is seeking ratification of Michael Weyer for
appointment to the position of public works director.
ACCEPTED THIS /6"--r-DAY OF /1110,a 6 -7 -, 2017, BY THE
MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF APACHE JUNCTION, ARIZONA.
SIGNED AND ATTESTED TO THIS k r DAY OF 46,61_,57-,2017.
JEFTWRDY
Mayor
ATTEST:
KATHLEEN CONNELLY
City Clerk
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CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and
correct copy of the minutes of the regular meeting of the City
Council of the City of Apache Junction, Arizona, held on the
18th day of July, 2017.I further certify that the meeting was
duly called and held and that a quorum was present.
Dated this 24th day of July, 2017.
KATHLEEN CONNELLY
City Clerk
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